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Re: STX love it or leave it.

OldTart
December 01, 2012 09:28AM

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As someone else mentioned in another thread, we have a huge company like Innovative that has a monopoly and instead of providing jobs to locals they're importing workers from Puerto Rico and wherever else.

Another gross misconception. It's no secret at all and has been widely published throughout the media that Innovative has brought in temporary qualified workers to help install the new fiberoptic cables. Best to check the facts before subscribing and furthering wild allegations.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Cruz
December 01, 2012 09:39AM

Registered: 6 years ago
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As someone else mentioned in another thread, we have a huge company like Innovative that has a monopoly and instead of providing jobs to locals they're importing workers from Puerto Rico and wherever else.

Another gross misconception. It's no secret at all and has been widely published throughout the media that Innovative has brought in temporary qualified workers to help install the new fiberoptic cables. Best to check the facts before subscribing and furthering wild allegations.

confused smiley What exactly are you saying? Is it true, but not a secret? Or is it false? I'm not getting your point.

Temporary or not, the point is that those are jobs that are being taken away from qualified local workers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2012 09:53AM by Cruz.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

OldTart
December 01, 2012 10:06AM

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As someone else mentioned in another thread, we have a huge company like Innovative that has a monopoly and instead of providing jobs to locals they're importing workers from Puerto Rico and wherever else.

Another gross misconception. It's no secret at all and has been widely published throughout the media that Innovative has brought in temporary qualified workers to help install the new fiberoptic cables. Best to check the facts before subscribing and furthering wild allegations.

confused smiley What exactly are you saying? Is it true, but not a secret? Or is it false? I'm not getting your point.

Temporary or not, the point is that those are jobs that are being taken away from qualified local workers.

Maybe if you paid more attention to following local news you'd know the answer. Innovative has brought in a supplementary team of temporary qualified workers because there is an insufficient number of qualified workers either within Innovative or locally period to get this huge project completed expediently and professionally.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Cruz
December 01, 2012 10:17AM

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As someone else mentioned in another thread, we have a huge company like Innovative that has a monopoly and instead of providing jobs to locals they're importing workers from Puerto Rico and wherever else.

Another gross misconception. It's no secret at all and has been widely published throughout the media that Innovative has brought in temporary qualified workers to help install the new fiberoptic cables. Best to check the facts before subscribing and furthering wild allegations.

confused smiley What exactly are you saying? Is it true, but not a secret? Or is it false? I'm not getting your point.

Temporary or not, the point is that those are jobs that are being taken away from qualified local workers.

Maybe if you paid more attention to following local news you'd know the answer. Innovative has brought in a supplementary team of temporary qualified workers because there is an insufficient number of qualified workers either within Innovative or locally period to get this huge project completed expediently and professionally.

There are many qualified workers that could have been hired to "supplement" this project, instead of bringing them from outside.

We need to have locals working, instead of out on the streets robbing people.

Innovative should have a social responsibility to make sure that locals are being hired.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Beeski
December 01, 2012 10:22AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 602

Old Tart....you are wrong. Innovative has laid off employees in Marketing, Accounting, Call Center and other areas and replaced them with Continentals, off-island call center. Cruz is right, they could have trained VI residents to run cable, instead there are teams of Puerto Ricans doing work Virgin Islanders could be doing.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

OldTart
December 01, 2012 10:27AM

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As someone else mentioned in another thread, we have a huge company like Innovative that has a monopoly and instead of providing jobs to locals they're importing workers from Puerto Rico and wherever else.

Another gross misconception. It's no secret at all and has been widely published throughout the media that Innovative has brought in temporary qualified workers to help install the new fiberoptic cables. Best to check the facts before subscribing and furthering wild allegations.

confused smiley What exactly are you saying? Is it true, but not a secret? Or is it false? I'm not getting your point.

Temporary or not, the point is that those are jobs that are being taken away from qualified local workers.

Maybe if you paid more attention to following local news you'd know the answer. Innovative has brought in a supplementary team of temporary qualified workers because there is an insufficient number of qualified workers either within Innovative or locally period to get this huge project completed expediently and professionally.

There are many qualified workers that could have been hired to "supplement" this project, instead of bringing them from outside.

We need to have locals working, instead of out on the streets robbing people.

Innovative should have a social responsibility to make sure that locals are being hired.


Obviously you seem not to get it or you simply want to continue arguing a moot point. However, if you're one of these "qualified local workers" who's been overlooked by the socially irresponsible company you deem Innovative to be (or know somebody who is) then contact Innovative directly to offer service.

This whole issue about which you're arguing was hashed out in meetings between Innovative and the local government months ago but I guess you missed all of that as well as the Department of Labor job listings ...

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Cruz
December 01, 2012 10:33AM

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smh....you obviously don't get it. And I have no faith in Albert Bryan, the current Labor commissioner, and also former executive at Innovative.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

OldTart
December 01, 2012 10:54AM

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smh....

My sentiments exactly.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

terry
December 01, 2012 11:08AM

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Posts: 2,524

The new project that is laying the fiber optic cable between STX and STT has hired the best man for the job to be the head engineer. The company asked around on the mainland and was told to get Andy B.. Andy lives on STX and has for many, many years. He just retired but has taken on the job.

If there are good local workers they sometimes do get hired!

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Jamison
December 01, 2012 11:10AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 1,037

There is plenty of work here if you're willing to go get it and work hard. Anybody who says different is full of it.

I know some people who are upset they can't suckle at the Hovensa teet anymore, if the fiscal cliff happens, millions of dollars that are gifted from the federal government people love to hate will dry up too. This place will get real scary if that happens.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Beeski
December 01, 2012 11:15AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 602

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The new project that is laying the fiber optic cable between STX and STT has hired the best man for the job to be the head engineer. The company asked around on the mainland and was told to get Andy B.. Andy lives on STX and has for many, many years. He just retired but has taken on the job.

If there are good local workers they sometimes do get hired!

Andy is working for viNGN.
Old Tart was defending Innovative (again).

Re: STX love it or leave it.

OldTart
December 01, 2012 11:21AM

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Old Tart was defending Innovative (again).

Defending FACTS which just happen to be related to Innovative.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

noOne
December 01, 2012 12:08PM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 1,495

Lets get back to the topic.

I left the islands in 1990 after my father died of his alcohol and drug (cocaine) use at 48 years of age. I was responsible for my own actions that created the bad situation I was in early 1990, but some of the responsibility has to go to my father and some to the environment on STT.

I would love to live on STT again, but i know that environment still exists and I cannot go back to that. I miss the beaches, I miss the people, I miss the culture, I miss my old hang outs (mostly gone now, what a shame Brian's turned into a tourist trap), etc.

I like where I live now, in Charlotte, NC.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

speee1dy
December 01, 2012 12:54PM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,259

cruz, i agree with you about the jobs, but what about the kids who are doing crimes too-what can we do about them. i know it starts at home but....

Re: STX love it or leave it.

divinggirl
December 01, 2012 04:32PM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 887

Any solution to crime also needs to include education. Companies do not want to employ people who can't or won't graduate high school or further their education.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Neil
December 01, 2012 08:04PM

Registered: 10 years ago
Posts: 988

What's sad are the families I know who loved it, didn't want to go, but HAD to leave, my family being one of them. We left a lot of friends and love behind.

Some of the negativity is surely just grief. And anger.

Re: STX love it or leave it.
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Novanut
December 01, 2012 09:07PM

Registered: 12 years ago
Posts: 897

Trouble in paradise? You bet. But just remember, we ARE living in paradise. I would rather be here than freezing my %^&* off up north where, btw, crime, corruption, etc. is just as rampant (for the most part). If we can, somehow, get the electricity in line, life in paradise would be a little better. Crime is everywhere. Get a permit, before it becomes illegal, and protect yourself. I think there was something in the constitution about it, right?

My vote would be for better roads but I have yet to grease enough 'palms'...

Soon come...

Re: STX love it or leave it.

DixieChick
December 01, 2012 09:15PM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 1,495

topic was.....lovin it or leavin it........BOTH

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Novanut
December 01, 2012 09:35PM

Registered: 12 years ago
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topic was.....lovin it or leavin it........BOTH

Sorry, I'm here, I'm home.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

noOne
December 02, 2012 10:23AM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 1,495

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Get a permit, before it becomes illegal, and protect yourself. I think there was something in the constitution about it, right?

Obama has expanded, not reduced gun rights

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Cruz
December 02, 2012 11:28AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 412

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Any solution to crime also needs to include education. Companies do not want to employ people who can't or won't graduate high school or further their education.

I agree, education can always be improved. I firmly believe that there needs to be better alternatives for dropouts.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

stx2020
December 03, 2012 12:02AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 119

hmmmm, seems original topic and post has been altered...

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Alana33
December 03, 2012 05:03PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 11,584

Better roads and lower costs for electricity and fuel would float my boat!

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Vince
December 04, 2012 12:21AM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 58

I want to get a French bulldog and name him Mr Bunny....

This has nothing to do with my first post but it is a true.

What will you name your next pet?

Some of you read between the lines and see things that are not actually there.

Re: STX love it or leave it.

Rowdy802
December 04, 2012 11:30PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 508

Simple post, simple answer... I have great memories from STX.. I don't love it but I do enjoy the place a lot... I am gone because of the refinery... I can understand some people not having a good experience and it is Ok for them to voice an opinion but every now and then somebody will go a little bit too far...

Paradise? Far from it... a good place with good people, yes... If it offers most of what you like, just try to enjoy it...

Yes, I know, WAPA and others are out of hand, but bragging that you left and you are so much better is not polite... Remember, once you leave, you don't make a difference... those who live there and fight for a better place will make all the difference in the world...

Am I am doing better here in the States? Yes, in many ways.. Would I want to go back to STX? If I get the chance, YES...

P.S. On the hijacking topic of Innovative hiring out-of-state.. A born and raised crucian that works for Innovative explained to me that the work with the fiber optics has a deadline to comply with budgets.. The technology is commonly use now next door in PR.. They didn't have enough qualified and experienced local hands so they had to bring people in.. BUT, Innovative sent him and other LOCALS to training in the USA to get them certified and ready to work side by side with the more experienced hands and then let the locals take over... Peace!

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