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Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

JahRustyFerrari
July 12, 2015 08:09AM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 255

LOL!!

I am a resident of St. Croix who is currently living in Orlando while working on a contract. I can assure you that there is no place on St. Croix that I don't feel safe...as opposed to Florida, where I feel like a moving target.
Can't wait to return home...you are lucky to be on St. Croix, don't let people scare you off. And beware of the posters who like to quote statistics.
You can go anywhere and do anything on St. Croix, with proper attention to your environment...as opposed to Florida, where you can be shot at simply for being the "wrong" color.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Keaw
October 13, 2015 12:38AM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 5

Second post, this.

Going house hunting. Where are the safe and unsafe areas of STX to drive through on a visit? Where not to go walking during daytime hours?

Please PM an opinion to my controversial question. The moderator will be happier and your response might get through to me.

Thanks

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

speee1dy
October 13, 2015 07:34AM

Registered: 10 years ago
Posts: 8,628

this is your second comment on crime and where to feel safe. why are you only focused on that ?

do you have jobs, health care, money? if so relax and enjoy the visit. crime should hardly ever be at the forefront of your thinking . obviously you want to be safe. check out city data and the fbi stats-heck check those out for where you live too.

and again-the majority of murders are gang related. not just random

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Keaw
October 13, 2015 02:07PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 5

Thank you Sir. Don't worry, be happy? LOL. thumbs down

Hello all,

I trust criminals are not running rampant. Coming soon.

A sincere thanks to those of you who have generously responded with useful information. wink

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Keaw
October 13, 2015 04:43PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 5

OMG. IMO this thread was trolled in June/July by a tense person who diverted the topic to his personal issues of racism, unemployment, and the blaming of others for his troubles. Off topic?

On an unrelated issue, I wonder how victims are selected? You can bet that a violent gang has a leader, and that logic is involved in selecting victims.

Let's say anyone can log in here. What if a particularly well educated but criminal mind were to "toy with the mouse," so to speak? She might log into this thread for amusement. She could seem very intelligent, even arrogant. But, she might betray herself sooner or later. Hypothetically of course.

IMO, the comings and goings of one hostile person 4x a week into upscale areas where she reveals that she feels she doesn't belong . . . sounds like someone assessing victims for criminal targeting. She holds these people in contempt, it is revealed. They, as members of a villianized group, wronged her or her own group somehow. Contempt for victims is part of the criminal's MO. Shared values of contempt keep her safe within her own community. The contempt betrays the scout here. A scout has to come and go freely.

Hypothetically, if she also reveals her history of long-term unemployment and that she regularly spends freely 4x a week in the upscale area partying, how does that work? No visible means of support, but enjoying the good life?

Has she got more discretionary income than most? Oh yea. You might even estimate her unemployed income. And partying is simply the cost of doing business. An Ivy league educated leader of poorly educated thugs? Might happen.

What does a small-time gang leader spending money judiciously look like, hypothetically? Always having funding, at the minimum. I would be suspicious if an outsider bringing prejudice and malice came often to my "safer place to live on St Croix".

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

vicanuck
October 13, 2015 04:46PM

Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 2,285

You'll love St Croix and feel very safe here. Never mind the trolls!

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

BeachcomberStt
October 13, 2015 06:53PM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 1,014

Quote
Keaw
OMG. IMO this thread was trolled in June/July by a tense person who diverted the topic to his personal issues of racism, unemployment, and the blaming of others for his troubles. Off topic?

On an unrelated issue, I wonder how victims are selected? You can bet that a violent gang has a leader, and that logic is involved in selecting victims.

Let's say anyone can log in here. What if a particularly well educated but criminal mind were to "toy with the mouse," so to speak? She might log into this thread for amusement. She could seem very intelligent, even arrogant. But, she might betray herself sooner or later. Hypothetically of course.

IMO, the comings and goings of one hostile person 4x a week into upscale areas where she reveals that she feels she doesn't belong . . . sounds like someone assessing victims for criminal targeting. She holds these people in contempt, it is revealed. They, as members of a villianized group, wronged her or her own group somehow. Contempt for victims is part of the criminal's MO. Shared values of contempt keep her safe within her own community. The contempt betrays the scout here. A scout has to come and go freely.

Hypothetically, if she also reveals her history of long-term unemployment and that she regularly spends freely 4x a week in the upscale area partying, how does that work? No visible means of support, but enjoying the good life?

Has she got more discretionary income than most? Oh yea. You might even estimate her unemployed income. And partying is simply the cost of doing business. An Ivy league educated leader of poorly educated thugs? Might happen.

What does a small-time gang leader spending money judiciously look like, hypothetically? Always having funding, at the minimum. I would be suspicious if an outsider bringing prejudice and malice came often to my "safer place to live on St Croix".

What did I miss? I have no idea what you are trying to prove with this post. I have good reading comprehension too.
Troll maybe?

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

OldTart
October 13, 2015 07:18PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

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BeachcomberStt
Troll maybe?

A very active imagination combined with some preconceived misconceptions and a desire to share with lesser mortals?big grin

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Alana33
October 13, 2015 07:43PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,049

Time for the Twilight Zone theme song, swans!

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swans
October 13, 2015 09:07PM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 1,313

With pleasure, Alana....




Swan

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Alana33
October 13, 2015 10:04PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,049

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

speee1dy
October 14, 2015 07:28AM

Registered: 10 years ago
Posts: 8,628

i was wondering why all of a sudden when a person disagrees or shares differing opinions, they become a troll or a flamer.

and btw-most posts start off with one topic and end up in another-normal conversation

maybe if you are that worried about crime????



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/2015 07:28AM by speee1dy.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

BeachcomberStt
October 14, 2015 09:59AM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 1,014

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OldTart
Quote
BeachcomberStt
Troll maybe?

A very active imagination combined with some preconceived misconceptions and a desire to share with lesser mortals?big grin

OT, sounds about right. I'm wrong.

BTW, for anyone out there reading this, I do care about crime very much so.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Alana33
October 14, 2015 10:43AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,049

Didn't think anything was wrong with what you posted, BeachcomberStt.

I couldn't figure out what that post was actually about, either hence the request for Twilight Zone theme song. My reading comprehension is pretty good, too.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

JahRustyFerrari
October 14, 2015 11:31AM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 255

...let's ask this lady...

[www.facebook.com]

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

Alana33
October 14, 2015 12:21PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,049

Don't see what a white lady in Nassau shaking her booty has to do with the post.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

dougtamjj
October 15, 2015 04:46PM

Registered: 11 years ago
Posts: 2,584

I am totally confused at this point but I loved the video of the fabulous dancing woman having a great time. Thanks JahRustyFerrari. That made my day sooooo much better. Tammy

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

JahRustyFerrari
October 15, 2015 05:00PM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 255

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Alana33
Don't see what a white lady in Nassau shaking her booty has to do with the post.

It demonstrates that white people who are unafraid of "local" otherwise known as "Black" culture can have a great time anywhere they go...you can see the same thing during carnival season in the VI.

Imagine a Black woman trying that at a Country Western Hoedown in Appalachia.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

dougtamjj
October 15, 2015 05:58PM

Registered: 11 years ago
Posts: 2,584

Ok, I had to read this whole thread again because Keaw's post sounded a bit familiar. Also Keaw PMed me to ask about safe places to live on island but when he did he quoted me from a post that I made earlier on in this thread. When I read my post that he quoted I had to think about why I posted it. If you didn't read this whole thread and my interaction with monogram then the one post that Keaw quoted me on when he PMed me sounded a bit like I was racist or a bigot. It bothered me a bit but I didn't reply for a couple of days because I just had a new grandbaby born and I didn't have the time to go back and read the whole thread again to see why I posted what I did.

I hope that makes sense. Anyway, Just a little while ago I saw the new posts on this thread and the post Keaw made quoted some things monogram posted on this thread but it sounded weird and he didn't show the posts from monogram. It is all taken out of context.

I do believe that our resident troll who is "researching" St. Croix and spent a month here and a couple of weeks on St. John as well is F ing with us all again.

Just my opinion. Sorry this is so jumbled.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

OldTart
October 15, 2015 07:23PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

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dougtamjj

I do believe that our resident troll who is "researching" St. Croix and spent a month here and a couple of weeks on St. John as well is F ing with us all again.

I agree - thus my earlier comment, "A very active imagination combined with some preconceived misconceptions and a desire to share with lesser mortals?" ... big grin

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

FLLisa
October 16, 2015 09:08AM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 125

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JahRustyFerrari
Quote
Alana33
Don't see what a white lady in Nassau shaking her booty has to do with the post.

It demonstrates that white people who are unafraid of "local" otherwise known as "Black" culture can have a great time anywhere they go...you can see the same thing during carnival season in the VI.

Imagine a Black woman trying that at a Country Western Hoedown in Appalachia.

Couldn't agree more, JahRustyFerrari. I am one of those white ladies having a good time!

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

CaptainMalibu
October 18, 2015 10:51PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 90

I figure it's about time to join in on the discussions. I have reviewed several discussions over the past year. My wife and I are moving to St. Croix in June 2016. We have visited the island in the past, most recently we were on St. Croix for the entire month of July.

While there are many things we need to know or do prior to our move, the issue of safety is paramount. We have visited the island from east to west, north to south. I have read the past 18 months of police reports in the St. Croix Source newspaper and marked on a map every location (estate) of reported crimes from domestic violence and burglary to drugs and homicide. While this type of research is lacking, it is a place to start.

I have read so many mixed responses on this particular thread and it's hard to read between the lines and consider the circumstances and experiences behind each response. I also have a difficult time reading things with objectivity as it is my desire to achieve the end result of "St. Croix is safe".

The East End clearly has the least amount of criminal activity. The northern coastal areas from around the Salt River area westward also seem pretty crime free based on my research.

During our most recent visit we stayed on East End and there are several things we like about the East End. Here is our dilemma, we are definitely West End folks. As our month long visit progressed, we spent more and more time driving to the West End. We will be renting before buying so a 6-12 month continuous stay will definitely give us a more valid impression.

The issue of safety and crime were discussions we had on more than one occasion with people we met. During our stay, I can honestly say we never felt unsafe. We had a few nights out in Frederiksted including the July 4th celebration and walked from town to where we were staying at Cottage by the Sea's hotel before and after the celebration. Perhaps this was not the safest bet and I have reconsidered this choice after the fact. I can say that we opted to leave the car unlocked and absent of valuables as opposed to leaving it locked with or without valuables. I figured if it was unlocked at least there was no need to break a window to find out that there was nothing in the vehicle.

I plan to continue reading the posts here and make my best attempt to objectively view the posts and read in between the lines as needed.

Thanks to those who have taken time to respond to posts from others like me who are preparing to make our move to paradise, or at least a version of it.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

vicanuck
October 20, 2015 08:17AM

Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 2,285

My only concern about living on the west end is having to drive into the sun twice a day if you happen to work east.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

CaptainMalibu
October 20, 2015 02:28PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 90

Quote
vicanuck
My only concern about living on the west end is having to drive into the sun twice a day if you happen to work east.

Hey, if that's my biggest problem of the day, then I'm living good.

Re: Safe places to live on St. Croix

midlifecrisis
April 05, 2016 10:54AM

Registered: 2 years ago
Posts: 2

We gave it the old 'college' try. Indeed there are rude people in the states, there are problems everywhere, but when we first hit the island, the first real experience we had dealing with the locals was at the Dept of Motor Vehicles. That is NOT a fun experience. You could not design a meaner, nastier, less efficient operation if your life depended on it. First, there is nobody to guide you in anything. You get told to go to this window - then that window. You wait. You get told what to do like you should know. Then you get to another window and they tell that the person at the previous window should have given you this form or that stamp. So go back into line and do it all again. Mean as hell. That was our experience EVERY time we had to deal with WAPA (Water and Power Authority), Innovative (Cable company),Revenue Dept, Dept of Labor. All rude, inefficient. They act like they wish you weren't here. Now - when another LOCAL walks in - THEN they all smiles and jokes. Of course they immediately start speaking in the local Crusian dialect so you can't tell what they say. Our first week here and the power went off island-wide ALL day. Something about a circuit breaker that the WAPA folks couldn't find....SMH. Then a few days later within earshot of our house (and NOT in a 'bad' section of the island), we awaken at 3AM to the sound of gunshots and wailing women. A guy fresh out of prison got ambushed in the parking lot of a nearby club. Summer of 2015 was filled with shootings, robberies, beatings. Just go back in the archives of viconsortium.com to see it all. If you get past all that, you get to the essence of the island which I can sum up in one word....ALCOHOL. This place runs on alcohol. I have grown so weary of being around people who are trashed by 2PM and just getting started. It's just not fun to be around so many alcoholics. Then there are the men. If you happen to be anything more than dog-butt-ugly, then you will proposed to every time you go out somewhere. Everyone wants in your pants. The fact that you are committed (and they usually are too) is no issue. The biggest problem with that (other than the obvious fact that it is a big hassle to deal with dishonest people who can't keep their body-parts under control), is that THEIR women then view YOU as a threat and it becomes hard to make quality friends...it is really a pity. Then there are the police (actually - for the most part there AREN'T the police). But for what they are, they will do stuff like give you a parking ticket because your tire touched the curb. Then you bother to go to the court to pay the tik only to find that the cop never even turned the ticket in. Absolutely stupid, but we learned after a while that this is just 'how it is'. When a gangbanger kills somebody it is always 'nobody saw a thing' - 'police are investigating'. But the local scuttlebutt quietly talks about who did the deed. EVERYONE really knows - even the police - but the perp is related to somebody so very little if anything ever happens. Then there is the price-fixing. Everybody knows the prices here are fixed by the monopoly of Arab business owners. Again, just read the online papers and you'll see that even the Senate is concerned about it. Prices are much higher than a normal market would sustain. Finally - I have a job situation that is calling us back to the mainland...and we are definitely ready. The island is indeed breath-taking. Many if not most of the people really are good people. But the amount of crap you have to turn your head away from, the fact you are 'relatively' safe, yet still need to look over your shoulders, need to really be conscious of when and where you go at night, the abuse you get at ANY government institution, driving down the road and somebody on the road 'sucks' their teeth at you - totally unprovoked, the homeless bums - many mentally ill and/or heroin addicts that accost you at the grocery store, post office, boardwalk - where ever, the prices, the lack of meaningful law enforcement....it is all so third-world. There is NO parallel in the US. I really hate to say all of that because there is a real draw to this place (though you wouldn't think so reading what I just wrote), but there is a sweetness under the surface. There is nothing like awaking to the warm breeze every day. But pros vs cons....on balance it is basically a corrupt, broke, alcohol and drug-addicted, mean place with crappy pot-holed roads, beautiful beaches and a few really good people. Not enough to call it 'home'.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2016 10:59AM by midlifecrisis.

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