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Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 01:32PM

Registered: 13 years ago
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The way that the contract dispute with CBS was explained to me is that CBS has bundled a bunch of new (useless) channels with the CBS network and wants Dish (and others) to buy the whole package or nothing at all.

Isn't this exactly what Dish has been doing for years? In order to get HD programming you need to subscribe to at least Top 120. And even Top 120 is loaded with crap. I never watch 75% of the channels in the package. I do watch CBS. Drop the other crap and give me CBS. You can drop Disney, Nick, MTV, ESPN, etc. I never watch those.

Give me back the HD feeds for ABC and NBC. Give me back CNN and HLN.

In the meantime. Netflix, HULU, Amazon, and now CBS streaming get my business and the costs are offset by reducing my Dish subscription.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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CruzanIron
November 20, 2014 02:15PM

Registered: 5 years ago
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The bottom line is that the stations want more money from Dish, I believe.
If Dish gives in, your rates will go up. If Dish is stubborn (like they are doing now) then the stations may give in and you get your channels back and your rate does not go up.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

OldTart
November 20, 2014 02:21PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

It was several years ago when the main network feeds were an issue with Dish and for several years thereafter I paid American Direct (?) a nominal monthly fee to have those channels through them, streamed through both CA and NY. Then Dish was able to provide them directly so I was able to cancel the additional feed.

My needs are simple and I don't want to become reliant on the internet to enable my ability to watch what I want to watch. 100% of what I want to watch I record on the DVR to view when I want to view. I'm not interested in hooking up an internet feed to my TV nor am interested in NetFlix, HULU, Amazon or any other 3rd party.

Where I live on the Northside of STT we had a glitch yesterday which downed the landline for a few hours and internet for a few more hours after the telephone service came back up - but I think the cable was only down for a very short time and I had no problem with that anyway as, reliant as I am on the DVR, that worked just fine. It must have come back up pretty fast as all the shows which were programmed to record during the evening were recorded with no problem.

Yes, channels by choice would be great as there are a slew of channels I've no interest in whatsoever - but that's common to the industry to date.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 02:38PM

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OldTart
My needs are simple and I don't want to become reliant on the internet to enable my ability to watch what I want to watch. 100% of what I want to watch I record on the DVR to view when I want to view. I'm not interested in hooking up an internet feed to my TV nor am interested in NetFlix, HULU, Amazon or any other 3rd party.

I don't understand. Why do you care which wire your service comes in on. If you plug your internet into a ROKU box or something similar how is that different from a set top box from a satellite provider or cable company? Isn't it just a matter of cost? If you don't have to pay for cable then you can increase your internet speed. The cost of the services like Netflix, Amazon, etc are low compared to cable. Many things are free. Most of the news services are available for free. The networks let you stream their shows for free one day after the live feed.

Internet streaming services are better in many respects than cable and satellite. For instance, if you want to watch a particular movie, with a DVR you have to program the DVR to record the movie, which might not be available to record for a few days. You have to wait. With a streaming service like Amazon, you simply watch the movie whenever you like, immediately.

The new CBS streaming service not only gives you access to the LIVE feed from CBS but also gives you access to their archives. You can watch previous episodes or even shows that are no longer in production whenever you like, no waiting for them to be rebroadcast.


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OldTart
Yes, channels by choice would be great as there are a slew of channels I've no interest in whatsoever - but that's common to the industry to date.

Yes it is. That is why it is so disingenuous of Dish to make CBS out to be the bad guy in this. They are only doing to Dish what Dish has been doing to us for years.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2014 02:51PM by rotorhead.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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CruzanIron
November 20, 2014 02:52PM

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How is streaming Netflix and others with a 2 Mbps bandwidth?

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 03:04PM

Registered: 13 years ago
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CruzanIron
How is streaming Netflix and others with a 2 Mbps bandwidth?

It works but with reduced video quality. I have 5 Mbps and it works at 1080p.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

OldTart
November 20, 2014 03:14PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

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rotorhead

I don't understand. Why do you care which wire your service comes in on. If you plug your internet into a ROKU box or something similar how is that different from a set top box from a satellite provider or cable company? Isn't it just a matter of cost? If you don't have to pay for cable then you can increase your internet speed. The cost of the services like Netflix, Amazon, etc are low compared to cable. Many things are free. Most of the news services are available for free. The networks let you stream their shows for free one day after the live feed. ...

With a streaming service like Amazon, you simply watch the movie whenever you like, immediately.

As I said, my demands are simple. I've no idea what a ROKU box is (yes, I can google it and find out!). My "set top box" from Innovative is a simple modem which apparently controls internet, landline and cable. If I streamline movies and shows through the internet can I store and save them to stop and start when I want, even a few days/weeks later?

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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CruzanIron
November 20, 2014 03:16PM

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Thanks. For me, I'd have to pay extra to BBVI to get the bandwidth.
That would cut into my Dish budget. Plus I have foreign channels
and I have to keep a minimum package to get the foreign channels.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 03:39PM

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CruzanIron
Thanks. For me, I'd have to pay extra to BBVI to get the bandwidth.
That would cut into my Dish budget. Plus I have foreign channels
and I have to keep a minimum package to get the foreign channels.

Yes. I have the $99 service from BBVI. The Dish foreign channels are available on my ROKU. Many foreign channels are available on the internet.

Your minimum package requirement is another of example of Dish's forced bundling. I am forced to keep a minimum package if I want HDTV.

The description of the "Dishworld live International TV" channel on ROKU says.

"Watch live international TV in 15 languages and over 180 channels. Featuring Arabic, Brazilian(I thought they spoke Portuguese), Bangla, Gujarati, Hindi, Malayalam, Punjabi, Tamil, Telugu, Urdu, Cantonese, etc." (Too much to type)
Packages start at $14.95/month. No commitment. No Satellite dish required.

Which nationality do you watch? I'll check to see if it is available for free outside of dish.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2014 03:42PM by rotorhead.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 03:55PM

Registered: 13 years ago
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OldTart
As I said, my demands are simple. I've no idea what a ROKU box is (yes, I can google it and find out!). My "set top box" from Innovative is a simple modem which apparently controls internet, landline and cable. If I streamline movies and shows through the internet can I store and save them to stop and start when I want, even a few days/weeks later?

A ROKU box is a set top box that sells for $39.99. No monthly fees. You plug your internet connection into it and your TV. It has a remote control. If you have WiFi you don't even have to plug in the internet. ROKU

There is no need to save stuff to watch later. On most streaming services everything is available whenever you want to watch it. Yes. you can start and stop it as much as you like.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2014 04:38PM by rotorhead.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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CruzanIron
November 20, 2014 03:59PM

Registered: 5 years ago
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rotorhead
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Which nationality do you watch? I'll check to see if it is available for free outside of dish.

Philippines

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 04:28PM

Registered: 13 years ago
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CruzanIron
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rotorhead
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Which nationality do you watch? I'll check to see if it is available for free outside of dish.

Philippines

The Dishworld Filipino TV package is available on ROKU at $14.95/mo. 48 hours for free to try it out.
Check out details [dishworld.com]

Have you seen this one? [www.tfcnowonline.com]



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Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 06:28PM

Registered: 13 years ago
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CruzanIron
I don't know if you noticed.

"For a limited time take advantage of our special 50% off Roku 3 or Free Roku LT offers when you purchase 3 months of DishWorld at the discounted price of $14.95/month and an additional month at the regular price. Make one convenient payment for four months of your favorite DishWorld programming and we'll send your Roku with Free Shipping. "

Their regular price is $19.99. So for $65 you get 4 months of Filipino TV plus a free ROKU. Then you pay the regular price of $19.99/mo which I believe is what they charge on the satellite, except no bundling is required. And no commitment.
[dishworld.com]

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

JD on STT
November 20, 2014 06:29PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 71

Dish is dropping TBS and I can't remember which others. I'm glad my landlord has Innovative.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

piaa
November 20, 2014 08:17PM

Registered: 13 years ago
Posts: 582

Did it just come back on? A minute ago, the annoying lady, now Wheel of Fortune.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

Alana33
November 20, 2014 08:50PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,055

Looks like it's back!
Too late for watching Mark Harmon and both NCIS programs but no more annoying lady as Pia mentioned. Let's hope the programing stays. Now for TCM, HNN and CNN! I was considering switching.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 08:51PM

Registered: 13 years ago
Posts: 2,455

A temporary reprieve. They are still fighting. CBS doesn't like dishanywhere which allows dish customers to watch CBS on mobile devices. CBS also doesn't like the Hopper which lets you skip commercials.

Dish doesn't like bundling by CBS.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

Alana33
November 20, 2014 09:14PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,055

Too bad they don't consider what the CUSTOMER likes and wants!

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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rotorhead
November 20, 2014 10:52PM

Registered: 13 years ago
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Alana33
Looks like it's back!
Too late for watching Mark Harmon and both NCIS programs but no more annoying lady as Pia mentioned. Let's hope the programing stays. Now for TCM, HNN and CNN! I was considering switching.

NCIS from Tuesday is available to stream for free here.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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CruzanIron
November 21, 2014 06:37AM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 2,403

Thank you rotor. But not such a good deal. Of the 23 channels, only 2 are Filipino channels (which I already get through Dish) the other 21 are international channels that have nothing to do with the Philippines. The ultimate bundling of channels that I don't need.

I'm investigating the TFCnowonline since they seem to offer more.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

Alana33
November 21, 2014 06:42AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,055

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rotorhead
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Alana33
Looks like it's back!
Too late for watching Mark Harmon and both NCIS programs but no more annoying lady as Pia mentioned. Let's hope the programing stays. Now for TCM, HNN and CNN! I was considering switching.

NCIS from Tuesday is available to stream for free here.

Thanks Rotor.
I'll check it out.

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

SkysTheLimit
November 21, 2014 07:39AM

Registered: 11 years ago
Posts: 1,900

CBS is back on Dish

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

vicanuck
November 21, 2014 08:27AM

Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 2,285

This morning I was again watching Aljazeera TV which I have since CNN went dark on DISH and decided that I actually like it better than CNN.

So now I don't care that the Turner stations are gone.

Does anyone know how to live stream Canadian channels like CBC, Global and CTV?

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?
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stxrocks
November 21, 2014 08:56AM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 89

Hey Rotor - How do you deal with commercials? Do you have a 30 second fast forward capability with your system? Which system do you have?

I am leaning toward a Roku with add-on subscription services, as desired. None of my TVs are internet ready and only have HDMI / RGB connections. Which Roku should I get? If I don't stream via WiFi, I am thinking that I need one Roku box per TV, correct?

I also like this idea of a 'virtual DVR'. [www.youtube.com] Not sure where to get the unit that converts OTA signals to digital though. Any idea?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge & experience!

Re: Now no CBS on Dish?

Ronnie
November 21, 2014 09:12AM

Registered: 13 years ago
Posts: 1,889

Just in time for Hawaii 5-0 and Bluebloods!

RLcool



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