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Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Spartygrad95
May 23, 2016 02:58PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,885

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OldTart
I have half a dozen loaves of bread baking in the oven and I think that says a lot about the whole state of affairs.

Make popcorn. I've got a sleeping boy and lots of time

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

LiquidFluoride
May 23, 2016 03:18PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 1,940

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caribstx
Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
[time.com]
[www.quora.com]
[www.foxbusiness.com]

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
[www.youtube.com]

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??


Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2016 03:21PM by LiquidFluoride.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Spartygrad95
May 23, 2016 03:29PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,885

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LiquidFluoride
Quote
caribstx
Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
[time.com]
[www.quora.com]
[www.foxbusiness.com]

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
[www.youtube.com]

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??


Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

But but Monsatan!
I agree with you. Big brother IS Google.
Yet a company with 15 billion in revenue (barely more than Whole Foods) is the most evil.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

OldTart
May 23, 2016 03:58PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

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Spartygrad95
Make popcorn. I've got a sleeping boy and lots of time

Moringa garlic bread is wonderful - right out of the oven it's sheer heaven!!! I think eaten regularly it would solve the PR financial crisis, assist in relieving the VI Government's fiscal distress and definitely put an end to corruption and the plagues of Wall Street and corporate America.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Spartygrad95
May 23, 2016 04:14PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,885

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OldTart
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Spartygrad95
Make popcorn. I've got a sleeping boy and lots of time

Moringa garlic bread is wonderful - right out of the oven it's sheer heaven!!! I think eaten regularly it would solve the PR financial crisis, assist in relieving the VI Government's fiscal distress and definitely put an end to corruption and the plagues of Wall Street and corporate America.

Agreed and only $20/loaf

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

islandjoan
May 23, 2016 04:25PM

Registered: 11 years ago
Posts: 1,678

Maybe typing OT will make that emoji appear!

big grin

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Alana33
Where's the emoji for "stick it?"

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Spartygrad95
May 23, 2016 04:42PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,885

Welcome coat tails

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

islandjoan
May 23, 2016 04:50PM

Registered: 11 years ago
Posts: 1,678

That's me!!

("44 that's me", who has seen that commercial for Geico? Love it!)

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Spartygrad95
May 23, 2016 04:55PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,885

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islandjoan
That's me!!

("44 that's me", who has seen that commercial for Geico? Love it!)

It is a great commercial CT wink

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Gator's Mom
May 23, 2016 05:55PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 913

Quote
Spartygrad95
Quote
LiquidFluoride
Quote
caribstx
Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
[time.com]
[www.quora.com]
[www.foxbusiness.com]

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
[www.youtube.com]

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??


Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

But but Monsatan!
I agree with you. Big brother IS Google.
Yet a company with 15 billion in revenue (barely more than Whole Foods) is the most evil.


"Methinks thou dost protest too much"

Didn't Google just cut off the pay day loan business from its searches?

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Spartygrad95
May 23, 2016 05:58PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,885

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Gator's Mom
Quote
Spartygrad95
Quote
LiquidFluoride
Quote
caribstx
Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
[time.com]
[www.quora.com]
[www.foxbusiness.com]

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
[www.youtube.com]

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??


Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

But but Monsatan!
I agree with you. Big brother IS Google.
Yet a company with 15 billion in revenue (barely more than Whole Foods) is the most evil.


"Methinks thou dost protest too much"

Didn't Google just cut off the pay day loan business from its searches?

They also changed algorithms so when people searched for things like "vaccines" pseudoscience crap was pushed down the list

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

caribstx
May 24, 2016 08:40AM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 524

Okay...so I get it on Google being the most evil.

I use Tor a lot...does anyone else use Tor here?

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

OldTart
May 24, 2016 08:42AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

Not me but the homemade bread is out of this world.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

speee1dy
May 24, 2016 10:27AM

Registered: 10 years ago
Posts: 8,647

that is funny


Quote
islandjoan
Maybe typing OT will make that emoji appear!

big grin

Quote
Alana33
Where's the emoji for "stick it?"

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

LiquidFluoride
May 24, 2016 05:43PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 1,940

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Spartygrad95
They also changed algorithms so when people searched for things like "vaccines" pseudoscience crap was pushed down the list

Because the ministry of truth knows best, they know what you should see and hear.

I'd rather have people see the pseudoscience crap and then get SLAMMED when trying to make an inane argument; at least then they would be encouraged to fix their ignorance correctly.. the way it is currently is just bad... 1984 bad.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

STTsailor
May 25, 2016 08:11AM

Registered: 2 years ago
Posts: 502

I can't find any info on USVI budget spending or revenue broken down by category. Is this a secret?

I presume that USVI does not contribute to US military budget from tax base generated by residents. That means 25% savings.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

ms411
May 25, 2016 08:26AM

Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 3,532

Yes, spending is a secret. Even though we are not spending on military, we are still spending more than we take in from taxes. VI has huge debt also.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Alana33
May 25, 2016 09:21AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,072

While our debt is not as massive as Puerto Rico's, last I d heard it was above
$1.2 BILLION and climbing daily. There is no new industry in the VI so in order
to fuel the VI Government's wasteful and often frivolous spending, they shall continue to raise fees and taxes while continuing to spend without check.
While I think the recent spate of pay raises are overdue for the average government workers, I don't see it as sustainable and will push us even further into debt.

I can see why the federal government would wish to include the territories in their attempts to curb our growing insolvency and Puerto Rico's overwhelming debt.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

ms411
May 25, 2016 09:29AM

Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 3,532

You must not have seen the commercials against the PR "bailout". The group sponsoring the commercial mentions high debt for California, Illinois, and one other state. The VI is in good company.happy

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

LiquidFluoride
May 25, 2016 09:31AM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 1,940

Quote
Alana33
While our debt is not as massive as Puerto Rico's, last I d heard it was above
$1.2 BILLION and climbing daily. .

2.4 billion according to this:
[www.bloomberg.com]

not quite as bad as the 70 billion of PR... but per capita wise........ we aren't that far off.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Alana33
May 25, 2016 10:06AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 12,072

Thanks LF.
I knew it was higher but wasn't sure of exact amount.
Considering we have a population of 100,000 people, (more or less)
it's a staggering sum.

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

Gator's Mom
May 25, 2016 10:35AM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 913

Per capita debt estimates

Puerto Rico $19,023

USA $58,255

USVI $22,857

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

STTsailor
May 25, 2016 11:24AM

Registered: 2 years ago
Posts: 502

Why is spending budget kept secret?

Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

OldTart
May 25, 2016 11:55AM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 6,524

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STTsailor
Why is spending budget kept secret?

It's not.
[www.usvipfa.com]



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Re: PR's economic meltdown and the Federal government's solution

ms411
May 25, 2016 12:01PM

Registered: 8 years ago
Posts: 3,532

If spending isn't a secret, please provide link so we can see it. Thank you.

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