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Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

LiquidFluoride
September 07, 2017 08:48AM

Registered: 4 years ago
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We aren't doing anything close to that still, just assessing damage; we haven't even been activated.

National guard is a backup to VITEMA, VITEMA has the ball for this situation and is working with FEMA, we (national guard) are just kept in the loop in case we are needed down the road; plus they are using our assets (buildings, communication lines, etc..).

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

NorthsideKevin
September 07, 2017 02:44PM

Registered: 3 months ago
Posts: 37

LOL! Tucker Carlson, pansy panderer of the 'nth degree, trying to make a story(and cash in) where there really isn't one. He wouldn't know a firearm if it was stuck in his face.

Seems like the last part of that Order had something to do with the AG's permission or consent. And all of the gun nuts in the good 'ol U.S. of A. glommed onto it and tried to make something out of it.

Daily Caller is still a steaming pile.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

stxisbest
September 07, 2017 08:28PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 155

Just for those that didn't see the order--draw your own conclusions especially after the Tucker interview--hoping the best for everyone affected in Irma.

[dailycaller.com]

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

dougtamjj
September 07, 2017 10:44PM

Registered: 10 years ago
Posts: 2,527

Mapp would have been fine if he hadn't used the word, "seized"

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

speee1dy
September 08, 2017 08:25AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

[www.nraila.org]

might be worth a read

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

SunnyCaribe
September 08, 2017 04:44PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 493

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NorthsideKevin
The source of information seems to be the "daily caller." That pretty much says it all.

Exactly. Come on, folks, use some critical thinking here.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

ironheadUSVI
September 08, 2017 05:30PM

Registered: 4 months ago
Posts: 134

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SunnyCaribe
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NorthsideKevin
The source of information seems to be the "daily caller." That pretty much says it all.

Exactly. Come on, folks, use some critical thinking here.

Disregard the memo because of the source? Because no liberal source ran the story?

Mapp was interviewed about this, and clearly said he signed it. But he says the word SEIZE really means they could buy the guns if necessary.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

Scubadoo
September 08, 2017 06:14PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 1,632

Mapp was only parroting the existing Virgin Islands Code verbatim in his order

TITLE TWENTY-THREE Internal Security and Public Order
Chapter 19. National Guard
Subchapter I. General Provisions
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that I posted earlier. He didn't make it up himself. Now perhaps he's making his own interpretation of it after all the lambasting.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!
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rotorhead
September 08, 2017 06:27PM

Registered: 12 years ago
Posts: 2,440

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SunnyCaribe
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NorthsideKevin
The source of information seems to be the "daily caller." That pretty much says it all.

Exactly. Come on, folks, use some critical thinking here.

They are almost as bad as DailyKos.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

NorthsideKevin
September 08, 2017 06:37PM

Registered: 3 months ago
Posts: 37

Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

ironheadUSVI
September 08, 2017 07:17PM

Registered: 4 months ago
Posts: 134

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NorthsideKevin
Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

So are you denying the truth because of the source?

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

SunnyCaribe
September 08, 2017 07:55PM

Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 493

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ironheadUSVI
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NorthsideKevin
Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

So are you denying the truth because of the source?

What truth? We're denying the story because we know the facts. We're ridiculing the people who would believe anything from the Daily Caller without question (or the Daily Kos, if you're in the mood for a red herring).

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

isl3985
September 08, 2017 11:16PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 68

Why have guns when you have the VIPD........

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

ironheadUSVI
September 09, 2017 01:17AM

Registered: 4 months ago
Posts: 134

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SunnyCaribe
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ironheadUSVI
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NorthsideKevin
Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

So are you denying the truth because of the source?

What truth? We're denying the story because we know the facts. We're ridiculing the people who would believe anything from the Daily Caller without question (or the Daily Kos, if you're in the mood for a red herring).
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So you discount the Mapp interview on TV where he explained it and said he signed it?

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

speee1dy
September 09, 2017 09:11AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

lol, right


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isl3985
Why have guns when you have the VIPD........

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

NorthsideKevin
September 09, 2017 10:06AM

Registered: 3 months ago
Posts: 37

Mapp is a self-serving idiot, in case you hadn't noticed, and blind followers of neocon or liberal dogma are just as bad. Keep repeating it, and it becomes "truth." Worked great in the last Reality TV election.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

LiquidFluoride
September 10, 2017 06:51PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,923

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SunnyCaribe
What truth? We're denying the story because we know the facts. We're ridiculing the people who would believe anything from the Daily Caller without question (or the Daily Kos, if you're in the mood for a red herring).


Kind of awesome that you mention one Logical Fallacy (red herring) while committing another logical Fallacy (Ad Hominem).


I just ridicule anyone who would believe anything with out question... wink

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

Scubadoo
September 10, 2017 07:11PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 1,632

So anybody have any guns or explosives seized yet?

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

NorthsideKevin
September 11, 2017 08:07AM

Registered: 3 months ago
Posts: 37

What is almost comical about the obvious attempt at making political hay is that I personally have a closet full of firearms and ammo. In the V.I., every one of my neighbors had a firearm. Those who bray the loudest seem to have the least experience with guns. Like little Tucker Carlson.

Now, word out of St. John is roving burglary, robbery and possibly worse. I have NOT confirmed this, and it came satphone-cel-second hand from someone I know is in the East End. If you believe the entitled thugs that have roamed the streets for years prepared, stockpiled water and food, you're mistaken. They're out now taking what they feel they are entitled to take. A free for all. Same thing is going on in Florida, and riots and looting on SXM on the national news. Truly sad. I hope they get their just desserts. Arm yourselves. Remember Hugo and Marilyn. Be safe.

Re: VING allowed to seize private guns and ammo?!?!

Ca. Dreamers
September 12, 2017 10:36AM

Registered: 7 years ago
Posts: 343

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NorthsideKevin
What is almost comical about the obvious attempt at making political hay is that I personally have a closet full of firearms and ammo. In the V.I., every one of my neighbors had a firearm. Those who bray the loudest seem to have the least experience with guns. Like little Tucker Carlson.

Now, word out of St. John is roving burglary, robbery and possibly worse. I have NOT confirmed this, and it came satphone-cel-second hand from someone I know is in the East End. If you believe the entitled thugs that have roamed the streets for years prepared, stockpiled water and food, you're mistaken. They're out now taking what they feel they are entitled to take. A free for all. Same thing is going on in Florida, and riots and looting on SXM on the national news. Truly sad. I hope they get their just desserts. Arm yourselves. Remember Hugo and Marilyn. Be safe.

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