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Re: Respecting the beliefs of others

Gumbo
November 04, 2014 07:51PM

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So it all just happened? Everything just happened from the big bang until humans just one day slowly showed up from what was here? Little by little humans became the superior animal on the planet and all that was accomplished was by our own hand?
It certainly provides insight into what we have become as people and were we are going.
I'll take a chance on faith and pray for a brighter future, if I am wrong nothing is lost.

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rotorhead
November 04, 2014 09:51PM

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So it all just happened? Everything just happened from the big bang until humans just one day slowly showed up from what was here? Little by little humans became the superior animal on the planet and all that was accomplished was by our own hand?

Yes. Based on what can be proved by actual evidence. Anything more is just wishful thinking. Who knows, maybe we will find additional evidence and learn more but for now this is all we can actually prove. The big bang explains the red shift as well as the residual background microwave radiation. The good thing about science is that it is self correcting. As we learn more our view of the universe is modified to incorporate the new evidence.

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It certainly provides insight into what we have become as people and were we are going.
I'll take a chance on faith and pray for a brighter future, if I am wrong nothing is lost.

Nothing that we have ever discovered requires magic! Once you start basing beliefs on mythology or magic then you leave the realm of reason. You can attribute things to God or Xenu or Lord Shiva but they are all nothing more than invisible sky wizards. Millions around the world believe in these sky wizards but none can prove that their sky wizard actually exists. If there was actual evidence to support the existence of one of them then there would no longer be a need for multiple wizards. In that vacuum, those of us who are still basing our beliefs on actual evidence are asked to respect mythology. Not going to happen. Once you start espousing nonsense you lose a little credibility. It's kind of like asking "what's your sign?". You know the person asking is not in touch with reality.

Do you have proof? I would love to hear about actual evidence which supports one of the many mythological belief systems. I watch the Ancient Alien series on TV, I am always looking for new evidence. Real evidence, not simply using a lack of understanding something as an excuse to assert craziness. I have a pretty good Baloney Detection Kit.

Assuming that you were indoctrinated into the christian mythology I would ask why? Why, except for childhood indoctrination, would you accept a book as proof of anything? A book is nothing more than assertions, a book by itself can do nothing more than make claims. These claims must be supported by evidence. You surely expect this from other sources of information in your life.

As for your assertion about taking a chance on faith and prayer, you make it sound simple. A little too simple. You seem to assume that the only two choices are taking a chance on your mythology or going with my evidence based belief system. Not so. There are many, many belief systems based on mythology similar to christianity. None of which can be proved using actual evidence. Have you ever heard of Pascal's Wager? If not then you should read about it. It explains why the choice is not so simple. That is unless you fall back on childhood indoctrination. All good Americans believe in God! Evidence be damned!

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rotorhead
November 06, 2014 01:53PM

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Joe Bob presents the stars of religious TV. People really believe this stuff! Don't miss the dancing Rabbis of "La Chaim" TV.



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rotorhead
November 08, 2014 05:19PM

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Evolution Less Accepted in U.S. Than Other Western Countries, Study Finds.
[news.nationalgeographic.com]

American Bible-Thumper Travels To Scandinavia, Freaks Out After Discovering How Secular They Are.
[www.addictinginfo.org]

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rotorhead
November 11, 2014 06:03PM

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Letter to a Christian Nation by Sam Harris


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rotorhead
November 14, 2014 03:53PM

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Bill Nye "the Science Guy" shows how utterly crazy the biblical flood story really is.








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rotorhead
November 16, 2014 01:15PM

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We find it easy to dismiss the fantastical beliefs of people in other times and places, but those that we’ve been exposed to since childhood seem not so far out. Virgin birth? Water turning into wine? A fig tree shriveling on the spot? Dead people getting up out of their graves and walking around?

All of the following beliefs are found in respected religions today. They have been long taught by religions that either are considered part of the American mainstream or are home grown, made in the U.S.A., produced here and exported. Some of these beliefs are ensconced in sacred texts. Others are simply traditional. All, at one time or another, have had the sanction of the highest church authorities, and many still do.


[www.alternet.org]

Each of these beliefs is remarkable in its own way. But the composite goes beyond remarkable to revealing. What it reveals is an underlying belief that is something like this:

The process that produced this world and human life is best unveiled not by the scientific method but by the musings of iron age herdsmen or science fiction writers, or con artists whose theories are best judged by examining only assertions that cannot be falsified.

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rotorhead
October 12, 2015 06:27PM

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Why do intelligent well educated people still believe nonsense?

Childhood Indoctrination!

[www.patheos.com]

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rotorhead
October 17, 2015 07:40PM

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Sam Harris brilliantly destroys religious arguments



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October 21, 2015 04:44PM

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"Should you believe in a God? Not according to most academic philosophers. A comprehensive survey revealed that only about 14 percent of English speaking professional philosophers are theists. As for what little religious belief remains among their colleagues, most professional philosophers regard it as a strange aberration among otherwise intelligent people. Among scientists the situation is much the same. Surveys of the members of the National Academy of Sciences, composed of the most prestigious scientists in the world, show that religious belief among them is practically nonexistent, about 7 percent."

[www.salon.com]




[godisimaginary.com]



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rotorhead
October 31, 2015 06:16PM

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Hilarious!



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November 06, 2015 02:40PM

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The Top Ten Reasons I Don't Believe In God
"When you look at the history of what we know about the world, you see a very noticeable pattern. Natural explanations of things have been replacing supernatural explanations of them. Like a steamroller.

Why the sun rises and sets. Where thunder and lightning come from. Why people get sick. Why people look like their parents. How the complexity of life came into being. I could go on and on.

All of these things were once explained by religion. But as we understood the world better, and learned to observe it more carefully, the religious explanations were replaced by physical cause and effect. Consistently. Thoroughly. Like a steamroller. The number of times that a supernatural or religious explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a natural explanation? Thousands upon thousands upon thousands.

Now. The number of times that a natural explanation of a phenomenon has been replaced by a supernatural or religious one? The number of times humankind has said, "We used to think (X) was caused by physical cause and effect, but now we understand that it's actually caused by God, or spirits, or demons, or the soul"?

Zero Exactly zero."

[gretachristina.typepad.com]

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November 10, 2015 08:02PM

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November 15, 2015 02:49PM

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Faith and Foolishness
"Every two years the National Science Foundation produces a report, Science and Engineering Indicators, designed to probe the public’s understanding of science concepts. And every two years we relearn the sad fact that U.S. adults are less willing to accept evolution and the big bang as factual than adults in other industrial countries."
[www.scientificamerican.com]

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rotorhead
November 25, 2015 04:32PM

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Now you can test the inefficacy of prayer for yourself.



[godisimaginary.com]

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rotorhead
December 03, 2015 11:15AM

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We find it easy to dismiss the fantastical beliefs of people in other times and places, but those that we’ve been exposed to since childhood seem not so far out. Virgin birth? Water turning into wine? A fig tree shriveling on the spot? Dead people getting up out of their graves and walking around?
[www.alternet.org]

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rotorhead
December 10, 2015 04:50PM

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"There is also a strong correlation between religious belief and various measures of social dysfunction including homicides, the proportion of people incarcerated, infant mortality, sexually transmitted diseases, teenage births, abortions, corruption, income inequality and more. While no causal relationship has been established, a United Nations list of the 20 best countries to live in shows the least religious nations generally at the top. Only in the United States, which was ranked as the 13th best country to live in, is religious belief strong relative to other countries. Moreover, virtually all the countries with comparatively little religious belief ranked high on the list of best countries, while the majority of countries with strong religious belief ranked low. While correlation does not equal causation, the evidence should give pause to religion’s defenders. There are good reasons to doubt that religious belief makes people’s lives go better, and good reasons to believe that they make their lives go worse."
[www.salon.com]

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LiquidFluoride
December 25, 2015 01:11AM

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Happy consumer day all!

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December 26, 2015 05:49PM

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PeteyToo
February 04, 2016 04:37AM

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Wow,,,.... Cant Wait for the next Original Comment...Got Internet ????

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rotorhead
February 23, 2016 07:46PM

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It is easy to prove to yourself that God is imaginary. The evidence is all around you. Here are 50 simple proofs.

[godisimaginary.com]

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LiquidFluoride
February 24, 2016 10:59AM

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This

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Wow,,,.... Cant Wait for the next Original Comment

followed by this:
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...Got Internet ????

Is that irony?


cuz.... using the "Got Milk" campaign format while attacking originality is....... hahaha

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PeteyToo
March 02, 2016 03:26AM

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Word !!! , Whoopsie , I Hear Ya',., My Bad. Nope, sorry no "campaign format" here, its the rhetorical verbose Bullshit. Guess using internet search engines, works for everyone ,myself included. Try loosening the Tin Foil Hat band a little.



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tankgurl
April 10, 2016 09:40AM

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Beautifully written smiling Agree with every word.

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rotorhead
April 16, 2016 03:22PM

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Arrgh!

New Zealand stages first Pastafarian wedding on pirate boat

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