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Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
December 13, 2015 08:13PM

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We will never agree on this.
Pesticides are harmful to the environment.
Have a glass of Round-up on me.
Enjoy.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 13, 2015 08:43PM

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You see. Roundup is only 43% glyphosate. Once it is mixed in a tank it is way less. Without pesticides you and I may not be here today. That is a fact

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
December 14, 2015 09:59AM

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It's a fact that pesticides as harmful.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 14, 2015 12:22PM

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To pest. Agree.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

islandjoan
December 14, 2015 12:57PM

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Without pesticides you and I may not be here today. That is a fact

That's the most hilarious thing I've heard all day!

Thanks for the laugh, Sparty!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 14, 2015 06:50PM

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Really? You are laughing at eradication to large extent of insect vectors of disease and pesticides which have helped agriculture produce yields of 300% more crops. You truly have no clue. You live in a bubble.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

islandjoan
December 15, 2015 12:58PM

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You got that right. I'm laughing.
And I don't live in a bubble.

Pesticides can be incredibly beneficial and have most certainly increased food production. They were of great importance in saving the United States' potato crops during the 1940's from insect and fungal pests, as well as controlling the boll weevil in El Salvador in 1953 (Monosson, 1).

Yet many times their detrimental effects outweigh the positive ones. Pesticides can be extremely hazardous to the human body and other living organisms, as they are designed to be a poison.

pesticides

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 15, 2015 04:16PM

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Are you an insect? A fungus or a weed? They are meant to be poisonous to those things. There are very few pesticides now that have DANGER label on them. Most have CAUTION.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

LiquidFluoride
December 15, 2015 05:17PM

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GMO is one way,,,


Looking at what nature does works pretty well also...


Like No-Till gardening.
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Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 15, 2015 06:40PM

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Gardening is not farming, one is a hobby. One feeds the world. Actually with glyphosate resistant corn and soy farmers use no till. Organic farming (large scale) uses tilling AND is dependent upon animal waste for fertilizer.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

islandjoan
December 16, 2015 09:47AM

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haha yes I am a fungus!

Did you read what it said, and what is REALITY?

Yet many times their detrimental effects outweigh the positive ones. Pesticides can be extremely hazardous to the human body and other living organisms, as they are designed to be a poison.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 16, 2015 12:18PM

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If misused water can kill you. The idea that farmers are out there just dumping pesticides defies logic.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
December 22, 2015 03:26PM

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Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 22, 2015 06:54PM

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These people at care2 do not understand the difference between correlation and causation I guess.

[www.fastcodesign.com]

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
December 24, 2015 02:40PM

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Quote
Spartygrad95
If misused water can kill you. The idea that farmers are out there just dumping pesticides defies logic.
Does it when they dump and pollute rivers, streams and our drinking water with toxic waste?
Get a grip sparty... and Merry Christmas to you and your family.

So when are you taking OT and I out for drinks and dinner?

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 24, 2015 03:29PM

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We will make plans for after the New Years. Stuff got crazy with Sam starting school and wifey going to work. Merry Christmas to you too!

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
December 27, 2015 12:18PM

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Monsanto Stunned:

California has just dealt a blow to Monsanto as the state’s Environmental Protection Agency has decided to list glyphosate, the highly toxic main ingredient used in Roundup, as a known carcinogenic.

Under Proposition 65, also known as the Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986, the state is required to list and publish chemicals that cause birth defects, cancer, or other reproductive harm. If a chemical is found to be carcinogenic by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), they are required to be listed as well.

[www.ewao.com]

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 27, 2015 05:34PM

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California... Where everything you buy has a giant label. Meh. Nice that California took the IARC findings of probable human carcinogen to known. Also Monsanto is only one of hundreds of companies who market glyphosate. Enough of the Monsanto boogeyman.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 27, 2015 05:36PM

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earth we are one just called glyphosate "highly toxic". It's toxicity is LESS than salt and vinegar which the people who deny science say to use instead of roundup to control weeds.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 29, 2015 05:15PM

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Hershey's has decided to stop using sugar from GM sugar beets. I can't find the article I was reading earlier, but they said their decision was not based on science but public demand. I lol'ed hard. So now they will be sourcing cane from sugarcane which uses 50% more land, requires 50% more water, still uses pesticides, requires the burning of fields to remove foliage and has 2x the carbon footprint of GMO sugar beets all to end up with the exact same sugar molecule. This is the problem with the anti GMO community. Their fear of science and proclamations of loving the "environment" conflict.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
December 30, 2015 11:48AM

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[www.sun-sentinel.com]

So environmentalists are against sugar cane farming, against GMO sugar beets.. Do they think sugar comes from Elf Farts? The environmental movement is almost cult like and definitely a ideological driven machine.

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
January 07, 2016 11:13PM

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Lawsuit Demands EPA Call a Pesticide a Pesticide
Not all neonicotinoid treatments are regulated in the same manner.

[www.takepart.com]


The EPA Finally Admitted That the World’s Most Popular Pesticide Kills Bees—20 Years Too Late
—Tom Philpott on Thu. January 7, 2016 2:08 PM PDT

[m.motherjones.com]



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Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
January 08, 2016 06:29AM

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Neonics are not part of GMO discussion. No way to debate my previous comments?

Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Alana33
January 08, 2016 01:09PM

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They don't spray crops or coat seeds?



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Re: This is why we need to stop fearing GMOs

Spartygrad95
January 08, 2016 06:17PM

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That has zero to do with GMOs.

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