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Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

LiquidFluoride
January 07, 2016 06:33PM

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islandjoan
Man's activity has got to have a negative impact on the health of the planet.

It is a variable that didn't exist for eons in the past.

You can't argue otherwise.

My argument here is not very eloquent, nor quantifiable, but it is pure common sense.

I think its very valid, except for the over population part (in reality humans occupy a very small percentage of the land on this planet... a person in montana may own 40,000 acers, but only really occupy/improve 2 or less etc..) that's still very debatable.

We most certainly have messed things up at times but mother nature never ceases to show us how little we know... The valdez spill was huge in alaska, but I spent a lot of time in and around Kodiak, no trace of it now....

Atomic bombs were supposed to ruin the earth for 10,000 years (or longer?) but nagasaki and hiroshima are both huge bustling cities that were rebuilt almost instantly after being bombed.

I think we like to sensationalize things, and I think its a terrible practice because it takes focus off the more mundane ecological abuses.

Plus, the whole issue about co2 doesn't pass my common sense test at all either (and the science does not clearly show it's the main culprit)

I'm certainly not saying we shouldn't be more conservative; we absolutely need to be.

I'm just saying we do not know why these changes are happening and what effect we are having on them.

I do not think our effect is global... not even close... the scale of things at the global level is so vast we can't even accurately predict weather 5 days from now; maybe if we could do that I'd have a bit more faith in these IPPC findings that are constantly changing.

Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

islandjoan
January 07, 2016 06:37PM

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Yep that's right man has got to be a culprit. Industrialization, pollution, overpopulation, habitat destruction - these things did not exist in large scale until the mid 1800s.

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rotorhead
January 07, 2016 11:20PM

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rotorhead
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Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

Alana33
January 08, 2016 01:08PM

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rotorhead
January 08, 2016 09:36PM

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[www.climatedepot.com]

[www.climatehustle.org]



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Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

Alana33
January 09, 2016 12:38AM

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Uh...Al Gore was speaking about climate change almost 20 years ago and no one thought it important. Many still don't even with them with observations and realities of unprecedented weather impacts, globally. With more to come...

I think we need to accept the fact that we're part of the problem and do what we can, even in small ways, to do our best. What would it hurt and how much more will it help??

Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

Alana33
January 20, 2016 04:38PM

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NEWS | January 20, 2016
Analyses reveal record-shattering global warm temperatures in 2015
From NASA

[climate.nasa.gov]

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rotorhead
January 29, 2016 06:11PM

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"Recent headlines, as well as President Obama’s State of the Union address, asserted that 2015 was the hottest year on record—1.7 degrees higher than the 135-year average. However, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), which released the findings, had to manipulate its raw temperature data to come up with that result.

Now a new paper is explaining why NOAA’s conclusions are too hot."

[rare.us]

I wonder if data from past years had also been "manipulated" would this still be the warmest year?



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Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

Jimfusio
March 31, 2016 05:23PM

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No kidding ... it drives me nuts that there are people who don't accept this.

Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

islandnewbie
June 27, 2016 10:18AM

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Now we have another "human" issue attacking our oceans. It seems washing our synthetic fabrics is discharging an incredible amount of synthetic fibers, that don't degrade over time, into our food chain. One more step down the road to extinction.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/how-your-clothes-are-poisoning-our-oceans-and-food-supply/ar-AAhBUus

Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

LiquidFluoride
June 27, 2016 09:16PM

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islandnewbie
Now we have another "human" issue attacking our oceans. It seems washing our synthetic fabrics is discharging an incredible amount of synthetic fibers, that don't degrade over time, into our food chain. One more step down the road to extinction.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/how-your-clothes-are-poisoning-our-oceans-and-food-supply/ar-AAhBUus

OR, a great reason to wear cotton/hemp clothing. wink

Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

Spartygrad95
June 27, 2016 09:39PM

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I love me some good old fashion American cotton produced with Bt cotton.

Re: Our Oceans Are Reaching the Climate Change Tipping Point, Warn Scientists

islandnewbie
July 10, 2016 11:08AM

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