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The Natural Fallacy

Spartygrad95
September 18, 2015 07:31AM

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File this under the category.. No @#$%& @#$%&?

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This is the problem with the natural fallacy. Nature hates you. It wasn't a you dead and yet a certain segment of the world wants to hug it and squeeze it and love it. Honey makes cookies taste like a nightmare and comes with the added risk of botulism. No thanks. Sorry science deniers and Luddites, sugar is @#$%& sugar.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

speee1dy
September 18, 2015 02:54PM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

i heard just recently that honey was as bad. and your right-sugar is sugar.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

Spartygrad95
September 18, 2015 03:26PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 1,870

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speee1dy
i heard just recently that honey was as bad. and your right-sugar is sugar.

thumbs up

Re: The Natural Fallacy

Alana33
September 19, 2015 11:36AM

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Re: The Natural Fallacy

Spartygrad95
September 19, 2015 11:40AM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 1,870

Absolutely refuted by the USDA study. Nice try. Enjoy your bee poop and possible botulism with the same net sugar effect on your body. Oh and an article with zero citations. I can make stuff up too. Doesn't make it true



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/19/2015 11:41AM by Spartygrad95.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

Alana33
September 19, 2015 01:26PM

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Posts: 11,580

Enjoy your day, sparty.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

Spartygrad95
September 19, 2015 01:42PM

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Posts: 1,870

I always do. I'm going to have some biscuits and honey.. Because biscuits and corn syrup sounds gross. smiling

Re: The Natural Fallacy

LiquidFluoride
September 20, 2015 01:34PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,923

I've personally had fantastic results with honey, especially when used topically (local, fresh honey) for wound care.


not bad to eat either...



I'm ok with bee poop and the possibility of something happening that PROBABLY will not.


Enjoy living in fear!


BTW, I LOVE how you used the title "natural fallacy" and then post an article and build an argument ENTIRELY based on the logical fallacy "appeal to authority"

well done sir, irony is a rare find these days (though that barely constitutes as irony).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2015 01:36PM by LiquidFluoride.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

Spartygrad95
September 20, 2015 07:10PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 1,870

Multiple studies are an appeal to authority huh? Then again you deny efficacy of vaccines and are a truther. I wish I was as "awake"

Re: The Natural Fallacy

Spartygrad95
September 20, 2015 07:15PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 1,870

Oh btw, I enjoyed your anecdote about wound care, the plural of anecdote still isn't evidence. I'm not fearful of honey. I enjoy honey. The point is, and was, honey is still sugar. It still effects your blood glucose level in the same way as corn syrup, cane sugar etc. Honet tastes delicious but do not delude yourself into believing it is "healthy".

Re: The Natural Fallacy

speee1dy
September 21, 2015 01:31PM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

i thought honey was bad/dangerous for children

Re: The Natural Fallacy

LiquidFluoride
September 21, 2015 03:56PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,923

Honey is definitely an insulin response inducer, no disagreement there.

The fallacy is stating a fact is true because it's from the USDA (appeal to authority) instead of stating its true due to some portion of the study (that neither you, nor I read).

We naturally communicate in fallacy, it's how we were taught in school and by tv/news examples.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

islandnewbie
January 05, 2016 10:19AM

Registered: 2 years ago
Posts: 66

If you are going to eat honey, make sure it is from a local source. Recent studies of processed honey (the kind in the cute little bears) shows that most of it is processed in China, then shipped back to the US through places like India, Pakistan, and other Asian countries so it doesn't say "Made in China". Honey from those countries, like apple juice, often bears a US label, but is usually diluted with water and other substances you really don't want to introduce into your body. Local honey also has the advantage of combating allergies and helping the local farming community.

Re: The Natural Fallacy

LiquidFluoride
January 05, 2016 10:37AM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 1,923

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islandnewbie
If you are going to eat honey, make sure it is from a local source. .

I certainly agree; the anecdotal cases of allergy relief and the higher o2 content of "local" (non-processed) honey are the best way to go.


Yes its sugar, but there's more to bee poop than just that.


Moderation in everything (especially sugars)!

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