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Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Spartygrad95
July 03, 2016 06:20AM

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Trump. Under investigation for his Trump University (lol)
Trump. Under investigation for using charity money to buy a Tim Tebow helmet (double lol)

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 03, 2016 08:47AM

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no, I dont think they are both one step away from indictment. I think that Hillary's crimes will be ignored by a rigged system and a pathetic public of followers.
I havent seen anything about Trump being under criminal investigation.
If both candidates pasts are compared, She is a self serving criminal that used every position she was intrusted with by the american people to line her pockets and further her ambitions. She told many everything they wanted to hear and too at least half of us, thats all that is important. Many dislike Trump and view him in the same manner, however their is one big difference, he did it using the capitalism that made America what it is today. His biggest issue with most is the fact that he didn't need to pander to a bunch of whiners to get where he is today and doesn't care to do it now either. If the American people knowing all they know about Hillary entrust her with the Presidency, it wont make one bit of difference to him. It certainly will to most of the rest of us and our children. No, it won"t make much difference to you if your over fifty and don't have any children or to all your dogs and cats.

LMAO! Hilarious post! Trump has been pandering to whiners since before he threw his hat into the ring.

And assuming A Trump or Clinton presidency will not matter to people with 30+ years left to live, children or not . . . . . well, that's either just plain ignorance, or a lot of rum, talking.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Gumbo
July 03, 2016 09:43PM

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And assuming A Trump or Clinton presidency will not matter to people with 30+ years left to live, children or not . . . . . well, that's either just plain ignorance, or a lot of rum, talking.[/quote]

Read it one more time



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Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Spartygrad95
July 04, 2016 09:49AM

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Neither president will matter to any person. They never do. It is pure folly

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 04, 2016 10:31AM

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Gumbo
And assuming A Trump or Clinton presidency will not matter to people with 30+ years left to live, children or not . . . . . well, that's either just plain ignorance, or a lot of rum, talking.

Read it one more time[/quote]

I read it 3 times before I responded, because it seemed ludicrous to me. Care to clarify what you meant, since I obviously missed it?

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Gumbo
July 04, 2016 08:06PM

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watruw8ing4
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Gumbo
And assuming A Trump or Clinton presidency will not matter to people with 30+ years left to live, children or not . . . . . well, that's either just plain ignorance, or a lot of rum, talking.

Read it one more time

I read it 3 times before I responded, because it seemed ludicrous to me. Care to clarify what you meant, since I obviously missed

Sure,
Understand this is my opinion, probably different than half of America these days.
If Hillary is put in the highest office in the land it won't matter too Donald Trump one bit. He sees the need for some changes that many of us do. However he is very wealthy and can protect himself and his whole future family tree from the stupidity that will become of our country. By the time the complete damage is done from 16 years of Obama-Clinton and our country is in about the same place as Brazil is now.
Most of us that are middle aged will be dead or too old to care. It's our children that will pay the price. About two more idiots on the supreme court and they are toast.

also, I don't drink alcohol. If you choose to
believe that I am ignorant, that really doesn't matter too me.



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Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Spartygrad95
July 04, 2016 08:37PM

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I love hyperbole

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

OldTart
July 04, 2016 08:50PM

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Too many distracting toos for me to unscramble.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Gumbo
July 04, 2016 09:19PM

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Too many distracting toos for me to unscramble.

Your spot on with that one. About three too many twos.big grin

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 04, 2016 09:32PM

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Gumbo
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Gumbo
And assuming A Trump or Clinton presidency will not matter to people with 30+ years left to live, children or not . . . . . well, that's either just plain ignorance, or a lot of rum, talking.

Read it one more time

I read it 3 times before I responded, because it seemed ludicrous to me. Care to clarify what you meant, since I obviously missed

Sure,
Understand this is my opinion, probably different than half of America these days.
If Hillary is put in the highest office in the land it won't matter too Donald Trump one bit. He sees the need for some changes that many of us do. However he is very wealthy and can protect himself and his whole future family tree from the stupidity that will become of our country. By the time the complete damage is done from 16 years of Obama-Clinton and our country is in about the same place as Brazil is now.
Most of us that are middle aged will be dead or too old to care. It's our children that will pay the price. About two more idiots on the supreme court and they are toast.

also, I don't drink alcohol. If you choose to
believe that I am ignorant, that really doesn't matter too me.

OK, so you're saying that after some ambiguous time frame after Clinton's presidency is over we'll be down the tubes. If the "complete damage" is done in 20-30 years, you have a point, except there are 5+ presidencies to turn things around. But less than that, and your middle-agers will still be alive and kicking, and caring as well. btw, In the last 7.5 years, the markets are back up, we escaped a depression and reduced the deficit. Much damage was repaired, not created.

I can't name a single idiot who has ever served on the Supreme Court. Takes a lot of smarts, studying, and experience to get that far. Just because some disagree with your interpretation of the Constitution (or mine) doesn't earn them that derogatory label.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Gumbo
July 04, 2016 09:50PM

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I can't name a single idiot who has ever served on the Supreme Court. Takes a lot of smarts, studying, and experience to get that far. Just because some disagree with your interpretation of the Constitution (or mine) doesn't earn them that derogatory label.[/quote]

Ok,
I have too agree with this part. You are right. I take it back.
However too much left or right isn't a good thing. Somewhere in the middle is the right place for the country and those in it. We have gone way far left, balance is needed. I certainly hoped there would be someone more uniting to do it. Another eight years of the same isn't what is needed. I do believe that there is a point of no return not far away. I'm glad a majority of the people in England figured that out.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

OldTart
July 05, 2016 05:59AM

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I'm glad a majority of the people in England figured that out.

That country 'tis of me and the margin between nay and yea was tiny. The irony is that the reaction to the vote was precisely the same as the reaction will be from the American public when whichever candidate prevails here. The most repeated Google searches after the vote from British subjects were, " what is Brexit", "how many countries are in the EU", "what is the EU", "where is the EU", etc.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 05, 2016 09:21AM

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Gumbo
I can't name a single idiot who has ever served on the Supreme Court. Takes a lot of smarts, studying, and experience to get that far. Just because some disagree with your interpretation of the Constitution (or mine) doesn't earn them that derogatory label.

Ok,
I have too agree with this part. You are right. I take it back.
However too much left or right isn't a good thing. Somewhere in the middle is the right place for the country and those in it. We have gone way far left, balance is needed. I certainly hoped there would be someone more uniting to do it. Another eight years of the same isn't what is needed. I do believe that there is a point of no return not far away. I'm glad a majority of the people in England figured that out.[/quote]

Personally, I believe we've gone too far to the right. But I also definitely agree we need to come more to the middle. And we will. The country has polarized about once every 40-60 years since inception, then moves back toward center each time.

As for the UK, I never believed they should have joined EU in the first place. But once they did, they made a bad financial decision to pull out. It's going to come back to haunt them. Hence the regrets the Brexit supporters are already expressing, now that they've figured out the impact it's going to have.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

OldTart
July 05, 2016 09:44AM

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watruw8ing4
But once they did, they made a bad financial decision to pull out. It's going to come back to haunt them. Hence the regrets the Brexit supporters are already expressing, now that they've figured out the impact it's going to have.

Simply not so, old news. In the aftermath of the immediate financial downslide (which wasn't unexpected) there were countless reports of people regretting their voting decision to leave but, as the market levels out and the initial hysterical panic and hyperbole subsides, the mood is likewise changing quite drastically.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

JohnnyU
July 05, 2016 09:56AM

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watruw8ing4


As for the UK, I never believed they should have joined EU in the first place. But once they did, they made a bad financial decision to pull out. It's going to come back to haunt them. Hence the regrets the Brexit supporters are already expressing, now that they've figured out the impact it's going to have.

What impact? The FTSE is higher than Pre-Brexit

The only potential downside would be London not being a banking hub

Personally I dont see that happening and the EU will have bigger issues keeping many of its member banks a float

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 05, 2016 10:15AM

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watruw8ing4
But once they did, they made a bad financial decision to pull out. It's going to come back to haunt them. Hence the regrets the Brexit supporters are already expressing, now that they've figured out the impact it's going to have.

Simply not so, old news. In the aftermath of the immediate financial downslide (which wasn't unexpected) there were countless reports of people regretting their voting decision to leave but, as the market levels out and the initial hysterical panic and hyperbole subsides, the mood is likewise changing quite drastically.

Simply so, future news. My comment had little to do with the original panic. It's the future regulatory duplication that will make it unattractive for businesses to establish (or stay established) in the UK, that will have a major impact. And that's just one downside.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 05, 2016 10:28AM

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As for the UK, I never believed they should have joined EU in the first place. But once they did, they made a bad financial decision to pull out. It's going to come back to haunt them. Hence the regrets the Brexit supporters are already expressing, now that they've figured out the impact it's going to have.

What impact? The FTSE is higher than Pre-Brexit

The only potential downside would be London not being a banking hub

Personally I dont see that happening and the EU will have bigger issues keeping many of its member banks a float

The FTSE is higher thanks mostly to the Bank of England bailout.
I don't believe the banks will pull out either. They'd better hope they don't. But the regulatory duplication is not going to be beneficial to other new or established corporations. Better hope the unhappy EU is not too punitive in its negotiations.

But, this is a thread about Trump and the US. If he gets elected, and gets his way with his immigration hardline, do you foresee American citizens being harassed because they don't look, dress, worship or speak like you or I? 'Cause that's what's happening over there now. And already here, to some extent.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

OldTart
July 05, 2016 11:18AM

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It's the future regulatory duplication that will make it unattractive for businesses to establish (or stay established) in the UK, that will have a major impact. And that's just one downside.

The UK was doing just fine before joining the EU and will be just fine (if not finer) in the future.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Gumbo
July 05, 2016 12:24PM

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But, this is a thread about Trump and the US. If he gets elected, and gets his way with his immigration hardline, do you foresee American citizens being harassed because they don't look, dress, worship or speak like you or I? 'Cause that's what's happening over there now. And already here, to some extent.[/quote]

personally I don't see that happening, He certainly isn't as conservative as he is painted. He would be one part of a system that isn't going to agree with him even half way. Hillary has been forced to be more left of center than she ever has been just to appeal to her base. She would get a mohawk if she thought it would help. Bill Clinton during his presidency to me was more conservative than Trump is today.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

Gumbo
July 05, 2016 01:47PM

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The UK was doing just fine before joining the EU and will be just fine (if not finer) in the future.[/quote]

I think finer, History has proven the will of the English people is strong. I personally think that's what leaving the EU is mostly about. While there is still an English people.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky
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rotorhead
July 05, 2016 02:01PM

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Another opinion.



Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

OldTart
July 05, 2016 04:29PM

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He made excellent points!

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

JohnnyU
July 05, 2016 04:40PM

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watruw8ing4


But, this is a thread about Trump and the US. If he gets elected, and gets his way with his immigration hardline, do you foresee American citizens being harassed because they don't look, dress, worship or speak like you or I? 'Cause that's what's happening over there now. And already here, to some extent.

I think its a lot of fear mongering

1 - If they hold companies liable for hiring illegals/undocumented workers (Pick your poison) Trump would be putting himself in the firing lines as I'm sure one of his companies has tapped this workforce

2 - IMO what Europe is dealing wrt immigration is considerably different than what we in the US deal with. So I dont think its an apples to apples comparison. Much of the immigration coming to the US going to areas where there is already a "culture" for the immigrants - Hispanics have developed cultural centers and have are assimilating, Somali's have established roots in places like DC & Mpls smoothing the transition.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

watruw8ing4
July 05, 2016 08:20PM

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It's the future regulatory duplication that will make it unattractive for businesses to establish (or stay established) in the UK, that will have a major impact. And that's just one downside.

The UK was doing just fine before joining the EU and will be just fine (if not finer) in the future.

Well, if you say so, it must be true.

Re: Another reason to Love Scotland other than whisky

OldTart
July 05, 2016 09:05PM

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Well, if you say so, it must be true.

Well, having been born and raised there, still a citizen of the UK and with all my family still over there, my opinion might just, possibly, maybe perhaps be a little more - shall we say "rounded" - than yours? Maybe not. Your knowledge of the UK, the Common Market and the EU may well surpass mine and, whether it is or not, you're certainly entitled to your opinion which I just happen to politely disagree with.

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