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Re: new president

ironheadUSVI
August 18, 2017 06:56AM

Registered: 4 months ago
Posts: 134

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Alana33
Yeah! He's as honest as the day is long.
NOT.

Somehow you equate lies with the health and strength of this country.

You focus on a weakness since that is all that you have to complain about.

Re: new president

Gator's Mom
August 18, 2017 08:14AM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 685

"Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.

In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound ...

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?

We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly."

Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Re: new president

rosesisland
August 18, 2017 08:34AM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 593

Since you like lists. Here's one for you. Why not ask these people associated with the Clintons how they feel about them. OH, yeah, they are all dead. I, personally, know another one that is not on the list that was suicided at age 60! She was my dear, dear friend. I was to arrive at her home the next day for a week long visit. She and i had tickets to come here for my rental search in 2012 just before my husband and I were to move back here.

McDougal – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

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2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 – C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992… Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7- Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives and Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42 – Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 – Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan

48 -World-renowned “space economist” Molly Macauly was brutally murdered in Baltimore park.

49-John Ashe- The former President of the UN General Assembly was awaiting trial on bribery charges when he turned up dead in June, apparently having crushed his own windpipe while lifting weights in his home…

50-Victor Thorn-Prominent CLINTON Critic VICTOR THORN Found Dead Of Apparent Suicide On His Birthday

51-Seth Rich-Still No Clues in Murder of DNC’s Seth Rich, As Conspiracy Theories Thicken

52- Joe Montano-Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47

53-Shawn Lucas-Death of DNC Lawsuit Processor Shawn Lucas Adds to Seth Rich Conspiracy Theories

54-Seth Rich-Family’s private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

55-Klaus Eberwein Found Dead Before Testifying Against Clinton Foundation in HAITI COVERUP

56-Man who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers committed suicide

I'm sure those people, if they could speak, would be able to list adjectives of the Clintons that are facts, not just your opinion. I think anyone reading my post knows to whom I am speaking.

Trump won! He is our President! Get over it.

Re: new president

JohnnyU
August 18, 2017 09:00AM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 446

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Gator's Mom
"Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.

In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound ...

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?

We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly."

Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Always funny how this stuff comes up when ones beliefs aren't insync with the current group in power.

The Ego is a fragile thing

Re: new president

Gator's Mom
August 18, 2017 09:51AM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 685

When people regurgitate rhetoric and codified language set forth by hate mongers of any political persuasion they prove themselves to be susceptible to propaganda. People can side with any devil they wish but should understand they are mouthpieces for someone else's agenda when they espouse slogans and "insider" code words signaling to others they are part of a special team.

And, yes, I include Clinton's deplorable comment. Disgusting then, disgusting now.

My ego far is from fragile, quit making this about me.


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JohnnyU
Quote
Gator's Mom
"Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.

In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound ...

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?

We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly."

Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Always funny how this stuff comes up when ones beliefs aren't insync with the current group in power.

The Ego is a fragile thing

Re: new president

speee1dy
August 18, 2017 10:11AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

pretty spot on.


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rosesisland
Yes, Gumbo, I do realize Hitlary lost...I thank God! How could've anyone read what I said and think I was on her side. I was at one time, long ago.
Actually, I was a card carry Democrat from McGovern until '08! When they didn't nominate Hills, I started asking why, why a virtual unknown, nobody over took her for the nomination. I quickly realized I wasn't even believing what the Dems stood for and they had slipped way too far to the left. I considered myself a moderate.
Once I started researching and getting a real picture, I saw I was one the wrong side. Did I just say side? I'm not really a Dem or Rep. Both sides are correct on many things. Both are wrong on just as many.

But, the media has influenced so many people to their false narrative it's sickening.

The following quote comes to my mind when I think about the left these days.

"Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful."

Ponder on that awhile. And, give Trump a chance. I gave Obummer a chance and he disappointed me greatly. You see, I've woken up and you still believe the lies. Is name calling all you got? If it is, I'm sad for you!

Re: new president

speee1dy
August 18, 2017 10:12AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

it really doesnt sound like you are giving him a fair shake either. but not to the rabid extreme of alana.


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Gator's Mom
No one is not giving Trump a chance (well maybe not Alana LOL). What other choice is there?

Each and every one of us has the right to free speech and assembly - not just people who agree with you. Dissenting voices are the very basis of what I was taught is most valuable to Americans. That's why Nazis can march and give speeches even though a generation of American men sacrificed their lives 60 years ago fighting the very ideas Nazis purport today.



[www.cnn.com]


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rosesisland
Yes, Gumbo, I do realize Hitlary lost...I thank God! How could've anyone read what I said and think I was on her side. I was at one time, long ago.
Actually, I was a card carry Democrat from McGovern until '08! When they didn't nominate Hills, I started asking why, why a virtual unknown, nobody over took her for the nomination. I quickly realized I wasn't even believing what the Dems stood for and they had slipped way too far to the left. I considered myself a moderate.
Once I started researching and getting a real picture, I saw I was one the wrong side. Did I just say side? I'm not really a Dem or Rep. Both sides are correct on many things. Both are wrong on just as many.

But, the media has influenced so many people to their false narrative it's sickening.

The following quote comes to my mind when I think about the left these days.

"Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist’s real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful."

Ponder on that awhile. And, give Trump a chance. I gave Obummer a chance and he disappointed me greatly. You see, I've woken up and you still believe the lies. Is name calling all you got? If it is, I'm sad for you!

Re: new president

speee1dy
August 18, 2017 10:15AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

and have you ever questioned why both groups were given permits on the same day blocks apart? and why the police were told to stand down?? the fricking mayor should be blamed. both are hate groups. whoever gave those 2 permits on the same day should be fired for inciting violence.


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Alana33
I was outraged and disgusted
I'm not a fan of Farrakhan.
Never was, never will be.


BTW, the protesters against the disgusting Nazi display which ended a peaceful protester's life and many injuries in Charlottesville did have a permit.

However, it seems to me that many do not understand exactly who and what trump is, even when he has shown his character or rather, lack thereof, throughout his history.
Where is the outrage with his daily and constant Bullshit LIES?

Even republicans are running for cover and they best run faster.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
Maya Angelou

Unfit
Unqualified
Undignified
Unpredictable
Unprincipled
Unpresidential
Unstable
Compromised

Re: new president

speee1dy
August 18, 2017 10:34AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

[www.washingtonexaminer.com]

Only Al Sharpton got close in that story, and Sharpton this week made a point of not declaring Trump to be a racist.

On MSNBC Monday, branding expert Donny Deutsch said Trump "is a racist." He then pressed Sharpton to agree, accused Sharpton of "dancing around it," and asked if Sharpton could "say he is a racist."

"I don't want to put him on a couch and deal with his psychological personal problems," Sharpton said. "I'm dealing with his public policies."

A frustrated Deutsch then goaded Sharpton on by saying, "you can't say that the president is a racist."

Sharpton replied again, "We're talking about the president and his policies."


even the race baiter sharpton cant say trump is a racist

Re: new president

JohnnyU
August 18, 2017 10:41AM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 446

Quote
Gator's Mom
When people regurgitate rhetoric and codified language set forth by hate mongers of any political persuasion they prove themselves to be susceptible to propaganda. People can side with any devil they wish but should understand they are mouthpieces for someone else's agenda when they espouse slogans and "insider" code words signaling to others they are part of a special team.

And, yes, I include Clinton's deplorable comment. Disgusting then, disgusting now.

My ego far is from fragile, quit making this about me.


Quote
JohnnyU
Quote
Gator's Mom
"Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.

In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound ...

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?

We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly."

Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Always funny how this stuff comes up when ones beliefs aren't insync with the current group in power.

The Ego is a fragile thing

Yet you fall back on both to try and prove your point

Your rhetoric and codified language are microaggresions that are triggering me, LOL

Re: new president

speee1dy
August 18, 2017 11:11AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

[www.breitbart.com]

and remember, this article was originally in a different publication so before you start your normal bs of " i cant trust them " they are not reliable " and all that other crap. read it first

Re: new president

speee1dy
August 18, 2017 11:46AM

Registered: 9 years ago
Posts: 8,214

dont you find it fascinating how similar the ANTIFA and NAZI flags are?

Re: new president

Gator's Mom
August 18, 2017 12:07PM

Registered: 4 years ago
Posts: 685

So let me be clear - I don't have any idea what you mean by "leftist" or "brownshirt" or "liberal" or "straw man." Since others jump on the band wagon and appear to understand - then these terms have to be codified with special meaning and context for a few.

I am asking a real question - what do these terms mean to you specifically?



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JohnnyU
Quote
Gator's Mom
When people regurgitate rhetoric and codified language set forth by hate mongers of any political persuasion they prove themselves to be susceptible to propaganda. People can side with any devil they wish but should understand they are mouthpieces for someone else's agenda when they espouse slogans and "insider" code words signaling to others they are part of a special team.

And, yes, I include Clinton's deplorable comment. Disgusting then, disgusting now.

My ego far is from fragile, quit making this about me.


Quote
JohnnyU
Quote
Gator's Mom
"Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.

In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound ...

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?

We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly."

Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Always funny how this stuff comes up when ones beliefs aren't insync with the current group in power.

The Ego is a fragile thing

Yet you fall back on both to try and prove your point

Your rhetoric and codified language are microaggresions that are triggering me, LOL

Re: new president

JohnnyU
August 18, 2017 01:27PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 446

Quote
Gator's Mom
So let me be clear - I don't have any idea what you mean by "leftist" or "brownshirt" or "liberal" or "straw man." Since others jump on the band wagon and appear to understand - then these terms have to be codified with special meaning and context for a few.

I am asking a real question - what do these terms mean to you specifically?



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JohnnyU
Quote
Gator's Mom
When people regurgitate rhetoric and codified language set forth by hate mongers of any political persuasion they prove themselves to be susceptible to propaganda. People can side with any devil they wish but should understand they are mouthpieces for someone else's agenda when they espouse slogans and "insider" code words signaling to others they are part of a special team.

And, yes, I include Clinton's deplorable comment. Disgusting then, disgusting now.

My ego far is from fragile, quit making this about me.


Quote
JohnnyU
Quote
Gator's Mom
"Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.
The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous.

In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound ...

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?

We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly."

Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf

Always funny how this stuff comes up when ones beliefs aren't insync with the current group in power.

The Ego is a fragile thing

Yet you fall back on both to try and prove your point

Your rhetoric and codified language are microaggresions that are triggering me, LOL

Maybe this will help - [bfy.tw]

There's no secret code

Re: new president

islandjoan
August 18, 2017 01:36PM

Registered: 10 years ago
Posts: 1,331

I haven't been reading any of these posts, because I ABHORE Trump, but I gotta say, I can't believe you guys have been debating this crap back and forth for so long! smh

Re: new president

ironheadUSVI
August 18, 2017 01:58PM

Registered: 4 months ago
Posts: 134

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islandjoan
I haven't been reading any of these posts, because I ABHORE Trump

Then you must be PISSED that he signed the Forever GI Bill.

Re: new president

Gumbo
August 18, 2017 07:45PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 456

The list posted above by rosesisland, I'm sure is just a small portion of what is known by the poster. People from Arkansas know lots of information, most are in disbelief of what they got away with, they took their criminal empire to the federal level and so far continue to get away with it.

Re: new president

Alana33
August 18, 2017 08:55PM

Registered: 5 years ago
Posts: 11,580

In a blistering public letter, the remaining members of the President’s Committee on the Arts and Humanities (PCAH) resigned. I’ve re-typed the letter here for easier reading, but you can see the original letter below. It’s a work of resistance art:

Dear Mr. President:

Reproach and censure in the strongest possible terms are necessary following your support of the hate groups and terrorists who killed and injured fellow Americans in Charlottesville. The false equivalences you push cannot stand. The Administrations refusal to quickly and unequivocally condemn the cancer of hatred only further emboldens those who wish America ill. We cannot sit idly by, the way your West Wing advisors have, without speaking out against your words and actions. We are members of the President’s Committee on the Arts and Humanities (PCAH). The Committee was created in 1982 under President Ronald Reagan to advise the White House on cultural issues. We were hopeful that continuing to serve in the PCAH would allow us to focus on the important work the committee does with your federal partners and the private sector to address, initiate, and support key policies and programs in the arts and humanities for all Americans. Effective immediately, please accept our resignation from the President’s Committee on the Arts and the Humanities.

Elevating any group that threatens and discriminates on the basis of race, gender, ethnicity, disability, orientation, background, or identity is un-American. We have fought slavery, segregation, and internment. We must learn from our rich and painful history. The unified fabric of America is made by patriotic individuals from backgrounds as vast as the nation is strong. In our service to the American people, we have experienced this first-hand as we traveled and build the Turnaround Arts education program, now in many urban and rural schools across the country from Florida to Wisconsin.

Speaking truth to power is never easy, Mr. President. But it is our role as commissioners on the PCAH to do so. Art is about inclusion. The Humanities include a vibrant free press. You have attacked both. You released a budget which eliminates arts and culture agencies. You have threatened nuclear war while gutting diplomacy funding. The administration pulled out of the Paris agreement, filed an amicus brief undermining the Civil Rights Action, and attacked our brave trans service members. You have subverted equal protections, and are committed to banning Muslims and refugee women & children from our great country. This does not unify the nation we love. We know the importance of open and free dialogue through our work in the cultural diplomacy realm, most recently with the first-ever US Government arts and cultural delegation to Cuba, a country without the same First Amendment protections we enjoy here. Your words and actions push us all further away from the freedoms we are guaranteed.

Ignoring your hateful rhetoric would have made us complicit in your words and actions. We took a patriotic oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Supremacy, discrimination, and vitriol are not American values. Your values are not American values. We must be better than this. We are better than this. If this is not clear to you, then we call on you to resign your office, too.

Thank you,

[m.dailykos.com]

Re: new president

Alana33
August 18, 2017 09:03PM

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Ranking Member Cohen to Introduce Articles of Impeachment Against President Donald Trump After Comments on Charlottesville
August 17, 2017 Press Release

[cohen.house.gov]

Ranking Member Cohen to Introduce Articles of Impeachment Against President Donald Trump After Comments on Charlottesville

[WASHINGTON, D.C.] — Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-09), Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution and Civil Justice, today announced that he will be introducing articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump following the President’s comments on the horrific events in Charlottesville, Virginia.

“I have expressed great concerns about President Trump’s ability to lead our country in the Resolution of No Confidence (H.Res. 456) that I introduced in July with 29 of my colleagues; however, after the President’s comments on Saturday, August 12 and again on Tuesday, August 15 in response to the horrific events in Charlottesville, I believe the President should be impeached and removed from office. Instead of unequivocally condemning hateful actions by neo-Nazis, white nationalists and Klansmen following a national tragedy, the President said ‘there were very fine people on both sides.’ There are no good Nazis. There are no good Klansmen.”

“We fought a World War to defeat Nazis, and a Civil War to defeat the Confederacy. In reaction to the downfall of the Confederacy, and the subsequent passage of the Reconstruction Amendments to our constitution, the KKK embarked on a dastardly campaign to terrorize and intimidate African Americans from exercising their newly acquired civil rights. Subsequent incarnations of the Klan continued to terrorize African Americans with lynchings and civil rights murders such as the assassination of Medgar Evers and the killings of Schwerner, Chaney, Goodman and other civil rights workers.”

“When I watched the videos from the protests in Charlottesville, it reminded me of the videos I’ve seen of Kristallnacht in 1938 in Nazi Germany. It appeared that the Charlottesville protesters were chanting ‘Jews will not replace us’ and ‘blood and soil,’ an infamous Nazi slogan, as they marched with torches that conjured up images of Klan rallies. None of the marchers spewing such verbiage could be considered ‘very fine people’ as the President suggested. And it certainly appeared the participants were in lock-step. Some of the white nationalist protesters were interviewed by the media, such as Sean Patrick Nielsen. He said one of his three reasons for being there was ‘killing Jews.’ Another was Christopher Cantwell, one of the white nationalist leaders, who said he couldn’t watch ‘that Kushner bastard walk around with that beautiful girl’ and said he hoped ‘somebody like Donald Trump, but who does not give his daughter to a Jew,’ would lead this country. As a Jew and as an American and as a representative of an African American district, I am revolted by the fact that the President of the United States couldn’t stand up and unequivocally condemn Nazis who want to kill Jews and whose predecessors murdered 6 million Jews during the Holocaust, and could not unequivocally condemn Klansmen whose organization is dedicated to terrorizing African Americans.

“President Trump has failed the presidential test of moral leadership. No moral president would ever shy away from outright condemning hate, intolerance and bigotry. No moral president would ever question the values of Americans protesting in opposition of such actions, one of whom was murdered by one of the white nationalists. Senator John McCain rightfully tweeted this week that there was ‘no moral equivalency between racists and Americans standing up to defy hate.’ Senator Marco Rubio tweeted, “Very important for the nation to hear @potus describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists.” President Trump has shown time and time again that he lacks the ethical and moral rectitude to be President of the United States. Not only has he potentially obstructed justice and potentially violated the Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause, but he has also shown that he is incapable or unwilling to protect Americans from enemies, foreign and domestic. Neo-Nazis and the KKK are domestic terrorists. If the President can’t recognize the difference between these domestic terrorists and the people who oppose their anti-American attitudes, then he cannot defend us.”

Martin Niemöller, a prominent Protestant pastor who was an outspoken critic of Adolph Hitler, said:



First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


“They have come for me, and for the majority of my Congressional constituency. Accordingly, I must speak out today after what happened on Saturday and our President’s subsequent response. It is morally and legally incumbent upon me, based on my oath of office, to introduce articles of impeachment.”

Re: new president

Alana33
August 18, 2017 09:34PM

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The week when trump resigned

[www.nytimes.com]

Re: new president

Gator's Mom
August 18, 2017 10:13PM

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Posts: 685

Snopes has determined this information is FALSE.

quote=rosesisland]
Since you like lists. Here's one for you. Why not ask these people associated with the Clintons how they feel about them. OH, yeah, they are all dead. I, personally, know another one that is not on the list that was suicided at age 60! She was my dear, dear friend. I was to arrive at her home the next day for a week long visit. She and i had tickets to come here for my rental search in 2012 just before my husband and I were to move back here.

McDougal – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

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2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 – C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992… Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”

7- Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives and Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”

34 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42 – Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 – Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan

48 -World-renowned “space economist” Molly Macauly was brutally murdered in Baltimore park.

49-John Ashe- The former President of the UN General Assembly was awaiting trial on bribery charges when he turned up dead in June, apparently having crushed his own windpipe while lifting weights in his home…

50-Victor Thorn-Prominent CLINTON Critic VICTOR THORN Found Dead Of Apparent Suicide On His Birthday

51-Seth Rich-Still No Clues in Murder of DNC’s Seth Rich, As Conspiracy Theories Thicken

52- Joe Montano-Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47

53-Shawn Lucas-Death of DNC Lawsuit Processor Shawn Lucas Adds to Seth Rich Conspiracy Theories

54-Seth Rich-Family’s private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death

55-Klaus Eberwein Found Dead Before Testifying Against Clinton Foundation in HAITI COVERUP

56-Man who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers committed suicide

I'm sure those people, if they could speak, would be able to list adjectives of the Clintons that are facts, not just your opinion. I think anyone reading my post knows to whom I am speaking.

Trump won! He is our President! Get over it.[/quote]

Re: new president
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rotorhead
August 18, 2017 10:21PM

Registered: 12 years ago
Posts: 2,440

Snopes?

At the end of the day, it is clear that before we rush to place fact checking organizations like Snopes in charge of arbitrating what is “truth” on Facebook, we need to have a lot more understanding of how they function internally and much greater transparency into their work.

[www.forbes.com]



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Re: new president

Gumbo
August 18, 2017 11:08PM

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Posts: 456

I know exactly what Snopes was created for,
never have I taken them seriously.

Re: new president

JohnnyU
August 18, 2017 11:47PM

Registered: 3 years ago
Posts: 446

Its amazing how people will accept a source unquestioningly when they agree with what they write. And howl that sources they don't agree with are biased and "fake".

Re: new president

ironheadUSVI
August 19, 2017 05:58AM

Registered: 4 months ago
Posts: 134

Quote
Alana33
In a blistering public letter, the remaining members of the President’s Committee on the Arts and Humanities (PCAH) resigned. I’ve re-typed the letter here for easier reading, but you can see the original letter below. It’s a work of resistance art:

Dear Mr. President:

Reproach and censure in the strongest possible terms are necessary following your support of the hate groups


Another group of misinformed snowflakes...

Buh-by

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