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(@Justagrrrr)
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My husband and I are moving to STX Spring 2019. He is off island half the month working. We have seen some pretty RE properties in William's Delight but have been warned it is not safe, to stay away. Would appreciate any CURRENT information/input?

Yes, we plan on security system and have 2 big dogs 55+ lbs but my husband is concerned about my safety while he is off island and I want to feel comfortable in my new home.

Thank you!

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 12:45 am
CruzanIron
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Williams Delight is probably one of the most high crime neighborhoods on STX.

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 9:58 am
(@caribstx)
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You wouldn't like it there.

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 11:06 am
(@stxsailor)
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Stay away....far away

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 1:44 pm
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Probably one of the most unsafe areas to live on St Croix. Only behind Grove in my opinion.

East of Christiansted is best IMHO.

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 6:46 pm
(@Justagrrrr)
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Thank you! I appreciate the help!

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 11:12 pm
(@Justagrrrr)
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Thank you. Its definitely the consensus! Appreciate the feedback!

 
Posted : October 2, 2018 11:14 pm
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https://viconsortium.com/news-2/after-over-20-shots-fired-man-is-found-lying-lifeless-in-grass-near-williams-delight-home/

..and this one was at 8PM in a residential area...

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 1:40 pm
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I agree with the first 2 sentences but not the third.

East of Christiansted is not the only best area.
There are other good areas:
Queens Quarters
Judith's Fancy
Hermon Hill
Beeston Hill
Rattan and Belvedere
Estate St. John's
Morningstar
Little Princesse Hill
Granard

IMO these are all good areas and they are NOT East of Christiansted, although they are all within a mile or two of that town.

Probably one of the most unsafe areas to live on St Croix. Only behind Grove in my opinion.

East of Christiansted is best IMHO.

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 1:53 pm
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I have had a different experience. I’ve lived in Springut, Hermon Hill, top of La Grande Princesse Hill and downtown Christiansted. I’ve lived in everything from a one bedroom apartment to 4 BR single homes with swimming pool. I currently live in Little La Grange 400’ above sea level. All but the place in Christiansted were at least 300’ above sea level with big, big views. I love West and after much experience and years here, I’d rather live anywhere on this island BUT east of Christiansted. Living east is so isolated and far from any errands I’d need to run. Love our west beaches and the fact that in the afternoon on the beach the sun is not on my back. I’m facing the ocean when I’m on the beach which I find more suitable.
So, considering so many different opinions, you can certainly see why it’s highly recommended to lease for a year or two before jumping into something permanent. Jumping here to quickly because of a dream to live on an island could easily become a nightmare. I, personally, would never ever live right on the ocean.

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 2:32 pm
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Thanks rosisisland and Islandjoan,

We love it up in the hills! We have friends in Little Fountain and in Carambola condos. They all love it. Can't wait until we can get back to the (relatively) lush greenery after One. Last. NY. Winter. (Bah!)

I have had a different experience. I’ve lived in Springut, Hermon Hill, top of La Grande Princesse Hill and downtown Christiansted. I’ve lived in everything from a one bedroom apartment to 4 BR single homes with swimming pool. I currently live in Little La Grange 400’ above sea level. All but the place in Christiansted were at least 300’ above sea level with big, big views. I love West and after much experience and years here, I’d rather live anywhere on this island BUT east of Christiansted. Living east is so isolated and far from any errands I’d need to run. Love our west beaches and the fact that in the afternoon on the beach the sun is not on my back. I’m facing the ocean when I’m on the beach which I find more suitable.
So, considering so many different opinions, you can certainly see why it’s highly recommended to lease for a year or two before jumping into something permanent. Jumping here to quickly because of a dream to live on an island could easily become a nightmare. I, personally, would never ever live right on the ocean.

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 2:41 pm
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Living east is so isolated and far from any errands I’d need to run.

Isolated? Maybe to you. Many of us who live east have no such issues. Don't you have a vehicle?

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 4:34 pm
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East End A is 10 minutes to Gallows Bay and 20 minutes to Sunny Isle by car. Ten minutes to ice cream on a reasonably well-lit road is my rule #1.

My rule #2 - wherever I reside - is to live in a location where you only hear gunshots on rare occasions.

Living east is so isolated and far from any errands I’d need to run.

Isolated? Maybe to you. Many of us who live east have no such issues. Don't you have a vehicle?

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 5:22 pm
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I hear no gunshots where I live.

 
Posted : October 3, 2018 7:52 pm
(@Justagrrrr)
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We definitely won't be purchasing or renting in Williams Delight after getting all the advice. Its a shame....they have so many cute homes available. To us think the island would clean up the gangs, ban them from island, keep STX LOVELY!

 
Posted : October 4, 2018 6:49 pm
CruzanIron
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We definitely won't be purchasing or renting in Williams Delight after getting all the advice. Its a shame....they have so many cute homes available. To us think the island would clean up the gangs, ban them from island, keep STX LOVELY!

https://viconsortium.com/news-2/after-over-20-shots-fired-man-is-found-lying-lifeless-in-grass-near-williams-delight-home/

 
Posted : October 4, 2018 7:29 pm
rotorhead
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I heard these gunshots. Sounded like a heated battle.
I live in Pueblo Heights.

https://viconsortium.com/news-2/shootout-near-dominos-and-st-croix-nails/

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 12:29 am
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we were in the parking lot hoping to get chinese food, but they were closed. we discussed ordering a pizza and waiting for it but decided against it. this was around 615-630. glad we decided against it . we would have still been there when it happened

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 11:05 am
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WOW yeah it's bulls*T that these thugs have no regard for life whatsoever, a big shootout at a peak hour when lots of people are running errands etc.

I am so glad innocent bystanders did not get hurt? I hope not. My friend went down there when he heard about 12 cop cars go by and he said he saw TWO ambulances.

Dude who was killed, was out on parole. Jelani Pitman, Assault 1st degree.

we were in the parking lot hoping to get chinese food, but they were closed. we discussed ordering a pizza and waiting for it but decided against it. this was around 615-630. glad we decided against it . we would have still been there when it happened

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 12:34 pm
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Pueblo Heights, that is funny!

I heard these gunshots. Sounded like a heated battle.
I live in Pueblo Heights.

https://viconsortium.com/news-2/shootout-near-dominos-and-st-croix-nails/

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 12:36 pm
(@Fishbait)
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we were in the parking lot hoping to get chinese food, but they were closed. we discussed ordering a pizza and waiting for it but decided against it. this was around 615-630. glad we decided against it . we would have still been there when it happened

Yeah, this is scary. It's one thing to be able to avoid being outside a club at 2 AM, not an issue for me. But where the hell are you supposed to go shopping if it's happening at 6:45 PM in a mall right around Pueblo Supermarket?

Time for a Fed crackdown on these gangs. Forget coordinating with the VIPD, just bring in Fed guys.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 1:42 pm
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When you bring in the Feds you hear the "they not sensitive to our culture" whiners and they get zero help from local authorities. This must Stop Hey VIPD! get out of your cars and do something. You drive by the police station at night and it's full of police cars. Why, its too dangerous for them to be out.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 1:49 pm
(@Fishbait)
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When you bring in the Feds you hear the "they not sensitive to our culture" whiners and they get zero help from local authorities. This must Stop Hey VIPD! get out of your cars and do something. You drive by the police station at night and it's full of police cars. Why, its too dangerous for them to be out.

This is from the US DoJ Guidelines for putting together an Anti-Gang task force. I think I see a couple of the problems....

Leadership:
The success of the task force depends
on progressive leadership exhibited by the participating
agencies, task force management, and task force
personnel. The presence of this leadership is often
transparent in successful task force operations; the
absence of this leadership is obvious in task forces that
experience failures. Successful task force operations
have an underlying thread of “enlightened leaders”
committed to overcoming obstacles and resolving
differences. Committed task force leadership has an
insatiable “can-do” attitude and will accept nothing less
than the very best effort.

Commitment:
The success of the task force is
dependent upon the commitment of the policymakers,
participating agencies, task force leadership, and the
team members. Good intentions and “moral support”
do little to sustain the task force in accomplishing its
mission. Commitment means that everyone honors
their agreements, roles, and responsibilities regarding
building, staffing, and supporting the task force.
Clear Mission: The successful task force has a

Guideline 7: Personnel
? Select personnel who are mature, responsible,
positive, and committed to achieving the task force
mission.
? Identify personnel to fill all task force positions:
leadership (commander/director), supervision
(supervisors/managers), deputies/officers/agents,
and support staff.
? Draft written personnel roles and responsibilities for
every position within the task force (make a part of
the task force policies and procedures manual)

---- We're screwed....

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 1:57 pm
(@speee1dy)
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yes, hubby and i were very lucky

we were in the parking lot hoping to get chinese food, but they were closed. we discussed ordering a pizza and waiting for it but decided against it. this was around 615-630. glad we decided against it . we would have still been there when it happened

Yeah, this is scary. It's one thing to be able to avoid being outside a club at 2 AM, not an issue for me. But where the hell are you supposed to go shopping if it's happening at 6:45 PM in a mall right around Pueblo Supermarket?

Time for a Fed crackdown on these gangs. Forget coordinating with the VIPD, just bring in Fed guys.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 4:33 pm
(@Fishbait)
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stxsailor
When you bring in the Feds you hear the "they not sensitive to our culture" whiners and they get zero help from local authorities.

stxsailor I believe you. But it's funny because every time one of these shootings happens there will be people commenting on the Consortium site that they miss the old days on the islands when you could hang out anywhere at night and not have to lock your house up like a prison to feel safe.

It seems to me the gang bangers are the ones who are not respecting the culture.

 
Posted : October 5, 2018 5:57 pm
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