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Why oh why can't we do this in the VI.... Post criminals pics online.

(@AandA2VI)
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I love sheriff Joe, always have despite some of his oddities. I think it would be even MORE effective here for sure because its a small community.

http://www.mcso.org/Mugshot/

I always like the captions on this one.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/06/maricopa_county_mugshots_of_th_18.php

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 5:53 pm
 Cruz
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The VIPD website has posted mugshots in the past. However, they seem to pick and choose when they post them and whom they post them for.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 7:20 pm
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Would be all for Sheriff Joe settling on the Islands. I'm from Ohio and even know about him. I follow him on facebook and support many of his causes. His heart is in the right place.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 7:26 pm
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sheriff joe is the best. can we have him for governor

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 8:20 pm
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he even gave the inmates ice cream and cold wet towels for the heatwave they are having.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 8:20 pm
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Would be all for Sheriff Joe settling on the Islands. I'm from Ohio and even know about him. I follow him on facebook and support many of his causes. His heart is in the right place.

Causes such as? For example:

Failure to investigate child rape cases: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2012/08/joe_arpaios_deputy_ordered_to.php

Worst pattern of racial profiling in US history (according to the DOJ): http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/12/sheriff_arpaio_oversaw_worst_r.php

Claiming President Obama was not born in the US: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007FWO19W

Mis-using funds: http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/04/13/20110413arizona-arpaio-detention-funds-misspent.html?nclick_check=1

Maintaining jails so poorly that they are a violation of constitutional and human rights: http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/10/14/31060.htm

At least he has one "cause" less on his plate. The feds removed his authority to identify illegal immigrants due to repeated civl rights violations. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/12/feds_pull_287g_authority_from.php

We have enough corruption, racism and incompetance on the islands as it is.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 8:28 pm
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The DOJ has about 0 credibility at this point in time along with the rest of the circus act in DC.

Obama has not provided any proof of his birth in the United States. His supposed birth certificate from Hawaii uses the term African-American when that term WAS NOT USED ON ANY BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN THE U.S. It was "negro". By his own admission traveled to Pakistan during a time when Americans were not allowed. Meaning he had a passport of some other nationality. Has not proven anything from his past. No one from Columbia remembers him. Columbia's class of '83 (the class Obama claims to have graduated with) just had their 20th year reunion. Obama didn't show up, didn't leave anyone a message or a greeting, and NOT ONE PERSON even remembers going to class or teaching him. You think someone might remember the President of the United States somewhere along the way?? He has sealed his "records" behind a 'wall' of 12 law firms to the tune of over $1,000,000. On and on I could go and this is all information you can find for yourself, just don't rely on Obama's lapdog (mainstream media) to give you any form of truth. There's more questions about that clown than there are facts. In his own words, "Those with something to hide are lying'.

Misusing funds? Again, let's talk about the Obama's $100million vacation (among many others) and his IRS...

And the way the feds are handling "immigration reform" by letting illegals walk right in and receive tax payer dollars, I wouldn't mind having a non politically correct person in charge. The PC and people feeling they're entitled to a good life just because they breathe is the root of the entire problem in DC.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 8:58 pm
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The DOJ has about 0 credibility at this point in time along with the rest of the circus act in DC.

Obama has not provided any proof of his birth in the United States. His supposed birth certificate from Hawaii uses the term African-American when that term WAS NOT USED ON ANY BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN THE U.S. It was "negro". By his own admission traveled to Pakistan during a time when Americans were not allowed. Meaning he had a passport of some other nationality. Has not proven anything from his past. No one from Columbia remembers him. Columbia's class of '83 (the class Obama claims to have graduated with) just had their 20th year reunion. Obama didn't show up, didn't leave anyone a message or a greeting, and NOT ONE PERSON even remembers going to class or teaching him. You think someone might remember the President of the United States somewhere along the way?? He has sealed his "records" behind a 'wall' of 12 law firms to the tune of over $1,000,000. On and on I could go and this is all information you can find for yourself, just don't rely on Obama's lapdog (mainstream media) to give you any form of truth. There's more questions about that clown than there are facts. In his own words, "Those with something to hide are lying'.

First off, you seem very set in your ways. From experience, no amount of facts or cited sources are going to change your opinion. So I shouldn't even waste my time responding, but I will.

Birth certificate: Absolute poppycock. Where on is birth certificate does it say "African-American?" It does state that the race of his father was "African." Because his father was indeed, AFRICAN (as in, a person from AFRICA). Also "The claim that Obama’s birth certificate is “sealed” is pure nonsense. Copies of both the so-called “short” and “long” certificates have been released, and state officials in Hawaii have said repeatedly that Obama was born there in 1961 and is a “natural born American citizen.” http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

As for traveling to Pakistan, American's absolutely WERE allowed to travel to Pakistan in 1981. http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a-survivor-with-a-bittersweet-history.html. They just needed to have a VISA (no, not the credit card, the travel document). http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/23/travel/l-lahore-243000.html?sec=&spon=&scp=3&sq=lahore%20travel%201981&st=cse

Columbia attendance: "Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order...It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post." http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

I'm not going to respond anymore, since it is a waste of time. Your opinions are set. They say ignorance is bliss--I'm assuming you are a very happy soul. Cheers!

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 9:32 pm
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The DOJ has about 0 credibility at this point in time along with the rest of the circus act in DC.

Obama has not provided any proof of his birth in the United States. His supposed birth certificate from Hawaii uses the term African-American when that term WAS NOT USED ON ANY BIRTH CERTIFICATES IN THE U.S. It was "negro"...

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 9:53 pm
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Would be all for Sheriff Joe settling on the Islands. I'm from Ohio and even know about him. I follow him on facebook and support many of his causes. His heart is in the right place.

Causes such as? For example:

Failure to investigate child rape cases: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2012/08/joe_arpaios_deputy_ordered_to.php

Worst pattern of racial profiling in US history (according to the DOJ): http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/12/sheriff_arpaio_oversaw_worst_r.php

Claiming President Obama was not born in the US: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007FWO19W

Mis-using funds: http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/04/13/20110413arizona-arpaio-detention-funds-misspent.html?nclick_check=1

Maintaining jails so poorly that they are a violation of constitutional and human rights: http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/10/14/31060.htm

At least he has one "cause" less on his plate. The feds removed his authority to identify illegal immigrants due to repeated civl rights violations. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/12/feds_pull_287g_authority_from.php

We have enough corruption, racism and incompetance on the islands as it is.

THIS. That guy is a nutball. The VI has enough of those already.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 10:05 pm
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most people in arizona actually appreciate and support what he does.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 10:31 pm
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I felt like I stepped into the twilight zone with this thread.

 
Posted : June 30, 2013 11:15 pm
Novanut
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Could it be that the criminals are related to law enforcement/senators/etc.???

 
Posted : July 1, 2013 1:04 am
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Yea sorry I actually thought I put this in coconut. Was on my phone when I saw the web page with the criminal photos, my bad. Feel free to move it.

Personally I think we're all screwed with a Capitol S. I don't care about Arpios random thoughts, some are out there some not. What I DO like is that he treats criminals like they are - they do not DERSERVE constitutional right. P.E.R.I.O.D. Until you've had someone in your family murdered and they go free and taunt the rest of your family - you have no right to talk. I will never understand the people who believe they should get cable tv and beds. They should get nothing, Hell I dot even think they should get food! Wanna talk about rehabilitation? How about making it so bad they don't commit crimes for the fear of jail??? Clearly what were doing doesn't work, talk to an inmate at one of Joes camps. Betcha a hell of a lot more stay a straight line.

Novanut, I'm sure your right, wish you weren't.

Iris I'm surprised to hear your not for Sherrif Joe. I mean aren't you a lawyer or something? I would assume it infuriates you to see criminals get off with minimum sentencing.

Fill: if you don't think that a thread about criminals being photographed for the public in the VI is relevant to moving here then "methinks" you should rethink that.

Unfortunately it would never happen I'm sure because like nova said, too many friends and family commuting the crimes. I DO think that public humiliation goes a long was as a deterant. It's a hell of a lot better than what currently seems to happen here.

 
Posted : July 1, 2013 2:40 am
 AJ
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Criminals do deserve some constitutional rights. Nothing in the constitution eliminates all of their constitutional rights. If you believe it does please specify where in the constitution is specifies that criminals are to be deprived of all their constitutional rights. Arpaio is a racist menace who is popular in an extremely right wing state for just that reason. Furthermore, not everyone who is convicted is actually guilty. So invariably some innocent people are being abused by demagogues like Arpaio. We have enough demagogues here already and don't need to import any additional ones.

 
Posted : July 2, 2013 10:46 pm
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Everybody in America gets constitutional rights. Prison is not a punishment either, nor was it ever intended to be. It's containment for people unfit for society.

lol birthers hahaha

 
Posted : July 2, 2013 11:03 pm
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Oh man... I was going to write this giant long drawn out post about criminals and their "rights" but it's just not worth it. Lets go on babying them, letting them suck down our hard earned money, only to become repeat offenders because: hey jail ain't that bad. In 2010 it was one inmate average of $32,000 a YEAR. In New York, Washington state, Connecticut... $50-60k a YEAR! In 2011 we had 2.4 million people incarcerated. You do the math. The ONLY way to reduce the cost by taking away beds, meals and comforts. Thos results in a harsher time served and a fear of jail. Right now we offer CRIMINALS the chance to get an education... What the F. What about the kids who can't afford an education on their own? Seems commiting crimes can actually PROVIDE more of a chance for personal betterment than not commuting a crime. You really don't see this as totally ass backwards?

Arpio tells it how it is. Point blank. its just that we as a society are so used to hearing the candy coated "i want the vote" version that we get shocked when someone like Sherriff Joe speaks up. This PC-ness is sick and a major part of our country's problems. Criminals are criminals and should be treated as such. They do not deserve respect nor human rights as they made the decision not to respect the human rights of another.

So I ask you, the killer of the children at sandy hook.. If he would have lived and you knew he was now getting an education for FREE, three meals a day, a pillow to rest his head on, a library, AC & heat, cable TV.... after murdering 20 children... you would be ok with that? After all, he has rights too?

To me.... that's insane and I will never be able to understand that point. Never.

 
Posted : July 2, 2013 11:35 pm
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joe does not treat his prisoners like animals, he just thinks they deserve no more than the law allows. that, i see nothing wrong with.

 
Posted : July 3, 2013 12:11 pm
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I agree with speee1dy.
We live here in Sheriff Joe land and love him. He is a publicity hound, But still does a great job. Yes most of his prisoners live in tent city, where during the summer they only have swamp coolers to keep them cool, but as Joe says, it is more than many of our soldiers have. They only get a few TV stations, no porn magazines, pink underwear, and chain gangs ( the inmates volunteer for that).

Have a friend that spent time there for drunk driving, cured him form doing that again.

 
Posted : July 3, 2013 1:49 pm
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-- moved topic --

 
Posted : July 3, 2013 4:11 pm
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We need some Sherriff Joe's here in the USVI. One wouldn't be enough.

 
Posted : July 4, 2013 12:07 pm
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