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SkysTheLimit
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Friends of mine (guy and gal) were "mugged" last night leaving Jump Up.
About 12 midnite they were walking down the boardwalk to there car. 2 "kids" jumped out and demanded money and cell ph.
They are OK but pissed!

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Topic starter Posted : February 6, 2010 4:01 pm
chockman
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What happened ? Were there firearms involved ? A knife ? Did they just demand money ? It is understandable that they would be pissed,who wouldn't .

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Posted : February 6, 2010 4:51 pm
margaritagirl
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Skys The Limit, Sorry to hear about your friends, that just sucks.
Did it happen near the Sea Plane terminal? I always hate walking down that part of the boardwalk at night. I'm always looking around.

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Posted : February 6, 2010 9:38 pm
SkysTheLimit
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OK,
More info:
They did not see a gun but one of the thugs acted like they had one under his shirt and they didn't feel like testing him.
They were just past Angry Nates. They demanded money and he just handed it over. Grabbed his phone out of his hand as they left.

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Topic starter Posted : February 7, 2010 12:59 pm
Prefer2sail
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I was down in that area a couple weeks back, we were visiting from STT on an overnight sail and had a bite & cocktails at the Brew Pub. It was nice to see what a lively & fun area it was. I did notice a lot of seedy characters doing nothing but cruising up and down the walk apparently casing things out. I also can't recall seeing any police presence at all. 1 or 2 officers on foot patrol would eliminate that kinda crap.

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Posted : February 7, 2010 7:05 pm
GoodToGo
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Isn't there a police substation across from Time Square just a couple of blocks away. Don't they have ATVs/scooters now for boardwalk patrol? (I recall seeing some in front of their substation recently.) Let me guess - they keep the patrols fully staffed during the day and allow the patrol shortages at night...

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Posted : February 8, 2010 2:18 pm
speee1dy
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GoodToGo
I also hear they only work M-F Unless it is a special occasion. And from what i hear only during the day?

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Posted : February 8, 2010 2:58 pm
li2stx
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We've seen two policemen stationed by the Caravelle almost every evening we are in town. I'm not sure what time they work until but we've seen them as late as 9 PM.

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Posted : February 8, 2010 3:29 pm
IslandHops
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The substation near "Times Square" always appears to be closed at night.

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Posted : February 8, 2010 3:56 pm
GoodToGo
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Cool, now that's effective community policing isn't it? Saves them from having to do all that messy paper work for all the crimes that happen RIGHT THERE at night.

But thank God we can have those fully manned traffic stops during the day...

The substation near "Times Square" always appears to be closed at night.

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Posted : February 8, 2010 5:51 pm
poorthang
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I have seen "private 'security' at office depot etc... ,Do you think a combination of businesses would be interested in providing a' lighter shade of blue security ".,cause it looks like de thugs thinks dark blue wont be around or care when de gettin is good. Does anyone know if stx has independent license to carry security company.? My preference would be some good ole boys from up north lookin for work! Just a thought ?cuz if I get mugged :X

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Posted : February 8, 2010 6:10 pm
speee1dy
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when stanford was still around, he had his own security. nice guys too

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Posted : February 8, 2010 6:47 pm
Lizard
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Security Guards do not have the Power of Arrest or Detention on Public property, They have no standing as a Law Enforcement Officer in the USVI. The ATF pulled out of the USVI because a DEA agent is being charged as a NON Law Enforcement Officer in the USVI. Security Guards have authority to protect Private Property or a Person (Body Guard) but must be licensed to do so. The Virgin Islands has a police Reserve Unit that can and should patrol High crime areas.

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Posted : February 8, 2010 7:35 pm
Michaelds9
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Sounds like the crew that robbed me just off the board walk - 5' or so - next to Angry Nates at 10 till 7pm! I guess you go with what works. One taller and one shorter than maybe 6' tall. I think they hide in the bushes beside Jones Marina. I never saw them until the grabbed me from behind. I didn't see a weapon so I fought back and damned near got away but in the end
they did get my wallet.......

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Posted : February 8, 2010 9:35 pm
bathiel
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GoodToGo
I also hear they only work M-F Unless it is a special occasion. And from what i hear only during the day?

So you mean that slogan on all the VIPD vehicles--"Working for you 24/7"--is just a marketing ploy? Say it ain't so!

Bernie

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Posted : February 8, 2010 9:44 pm
Neil
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The Govt lot area behind Angry Nates is a dicey place at night.
During the day, the car wash guys seem to keep an eye on things, and I've seen bicycle patrols on the boardwalk during the day.

Is there a downtown Chamber of Commerce which is addressing customer safety?
Is there a retailer's association down there that tries to leverage some changes and help?
You'd think collectively they would hire some private security to deter crime.

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Posted : February 9, 2010 11:57 pm
rotorhead
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Back in the day when the place that is now Zebos used to be the Casbah, Roger had hired security guards who would patrol Strand street from the Casbah down to Government Lot including the parking area every night except Sunday. The guards were moonlighting police officers so they could carry weapons.

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Posted : February 10, 2010 1:17 am
chockman
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For night time putting around the boardwalk or other unlit areas carry a small, very bright flash light. A company by the name Surefire makes a very good one and you could slip it into your back pocket and never be in discomfort. It is not a cure for a lot of the problems that may arise but it will more than likely keep some clown from jumping you. If you light the area up when your 50 or 60 feet away they won't be hiding for long. This brand of flashlight will provide a very blinding beam of light that may allow you to escape. There are also other brands of flashlights that actually have a very bright WHITE light and they have a strobe mode as well. This strobe mode, most of you will recognize as the old Disco,dance floor strobe light. Now remember the effect it had on your eyes while you were dancing. Two people pushing against each other,big person on a small person it does not matter. Whoever is the person with the strobe light,will be the one who controls the other person. When your eye sight is hit directly with a beam of strobing light,your brain can not process what it is seeing,this will allow you to break contact or maybe take control of the situation. It works !!!!! If you can't see the attack coming,you damn sure don't have a good chance of escaping.

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Posted : February 10, 2010 3:05 am
Edward
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Is the light available on STX?

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Posted : February 10, 2010 4:53 am
poorthang
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Here's an idea. Let the dark blue cops use a "white boy decoy' at nite to set up a sting to catch de thugs in action. The white boy decoy works very well. He simply walks along minding his own business , maybe whistling softly to draw attention ,has a few bucks in his pockets so de thugs can smell him coming. and then BAM !!!!! You got one on the white boy decoy just in a matter of minutes. Try it first at nite cause de fishin is goooood. hopefully de dark blue wont catch and release de stinkin slimy fish anymore. 😀

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Posted : February 10, 2010 7:30 am
chockman
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I don't know what is available on St Croix. Anyone who may be a firearms dealer may sell them or someone who deals in Police supplies. The white boy decoy,could work. Like you said,no catch and release.

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Posted : February 10, 2010 2:25 pm
GoodToGo
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Unfortunately I doubt the white boy decoy would work unless the white boy is willing to get injured. I suspect anything less won't be considered serious enough for real jail time - unless they start doing trial and jailing off-island (say in Puerto Rico.)

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Posted : February 10, 2010 3:55 pm
poorthang
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The "white boy decoy " can be equipped with the following options depending on individual tastes..... Such as walking in a drunken stooper, floral shirts with suitcase creases, beet red tan lines, For the more aggressive the "white boy decoy" can be equipped with a stun gun with multiple barbs ,one shot one kill T-shirt, and a lightning fast jab to the throat (know to cause serious discomfort to the perp) .Order yours today !!! .8-)

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Posted : February 10, 2010 5:11 pm
Linda J
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The last few posts leave the impression that only white people are the subjects of crime. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Posted : February 10, 2010 5:45 pm
Hobtostx
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Thought a little levity may lighten things up.

AN ACTUAL CRAIG'S LIST PERSONALS AD
To the Guy Who Tried to Mug Me in Downtown Savannah night before last.
Date: 2009-05-27, 1 :43 a.m. E.S.T.
I was the guy wearing the black Burberry jacket that you demanded that I hand over, shortly after you pulled the knife on me and my girlfriend, threatening our lives. You also asked for my girlfriend's purse and earrings. I can only hope that you somehow come across this rather important message.
First, I'd like to apologize for your embarrassment; I didn't expect you to actually crap in your pants when I drew my pistol after you took my jacket.. The evening was not that cold, and I was wearing the jacket for a reason.. My girlfriend had just bought me that Kimber Model 1911 .45 ACP pistol for my birthday, and we had picked up a shoulder holster for it that very evening. Obviously you agree that it is a very intimidating weapon when pointed at your head ... isn't it?!
I know it probably wasn't fun walking back to wherever you'd come from with that brown sludge in your pants. I'm sure it was even worse walking bare-footed since I made you leave your shoes, cell phone, and wallet with me. [That prevented you from calling or running to your buddies to come help mug us again].
After I called your mother or "Momma" as you had her listed in your cell, I explained the entire episode of what you'd done. Then I went and filled up my gas tank as well as those of four other people in the gas station, -- on your credit card. The guy with the big motor home took 150 gallons and was extremely grateful!
I gave your shoes to a homeless guy outside Vinnie Van Go Go's, along with all the cash in your wallet. [That made his day!]
I then threw your wallet into the big pink "pimp mobile" that was parked at the curb ... after I broke the windshield and side window and keyed the entire driver's side of the car..
Later, I called a bunch of phone sex numbers from your cell phone. Ma Bell just now shut down the line, although I only used the phone for a little over a day now, so what's going on with that? Earlier, I managed to get in two threatening phone calls to the DA's office and one to the FBI, while mentioning President Obama as my possible target.
The FBI guy seemed really intense and we had a nice long chat (I guess while he traced your number etc.).
;In a way, perhaps I should apologize for not killing you ... but I feel this type of retribution is a far more appropriate punishment for your threatened crime. I wish you well as you try to sort through some of these rather immediate pressing issues, and can only hope that you have the opportunity to reflect upon, and perhaps reconsider, the career path you've chosen to pursue in life. Remember, next time you might not be so lucky.Have a good day!
Thoughtfully yours,
Alex

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Posted : February 10, 2010 5:47 pm
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