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(@ikory)
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This is not a very good long term solution but you could pay them to move.

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 8:50 pm
rotorhead
(@rotorhead)
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According to the above definition, if someone is using a public beach they must remain on the sand. Once they hit the vegetation line or cliffs they are on private property. In no case shall the public access portion of the beach extend more than 50 feet beyond low tide.

The only time a private land owner is required to provide access across their property is if they have entered into an agreement with DPNR in order to obtain a permit or for some other reason.

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 9:22 pm
(@blu4u)
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individual lots inside sub-divisions may not have to provide access. But, most HOAs do. Access is the tricky word. To me "access" implies an easement to travel to and from the public land, not a spot to set-up camp.

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 9:44 pm
(@blu4u)
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I'm kinda temped to camp here.....

"Overlooking two half-moon beaches, The Preserve at Botany Bay is a protected, 397-acre enclave at the secluded West End of St. Thomas. Featuring dramatic topography, Botany Bay offers Homesites that provide both commanding ocean views and easy beach access to three private and intimate coves. Owners enjoy private luxury home ownership in an intimate setting while having at their fingertips the incomparable amenities and services of a five-star resort."

http://www.thepreserveatbotanybay.com/the-preserve/property-map

three private and intimate coves. This where the problem starts. Buyers are mislead in believing that they are purchasing into a development with "private coves". I wonder if the RE agents ever disclose that all beaches in the VI are public and the developers CZM permits provide access? I don't see any beach parking? or access path to the national historic site....

"protected, 397-acre enclave", Protected from whom? Certainly not carpet bagging developers or elected officials pimping our natural resources for a quick buck.

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 10:11 pm
(@sloop_jones)
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my neighbor lives on a rocky cliff . the guy was btw. the vegetation line and low tide, whcihc in this location is about 30'.
the police came and told my neighbors they could not remove him.
There is a public access trail have may have used. to get to the beach.
today it rained and he is gone.

sloop

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 11:04 pm
(@Iris_Tramm)
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I'm having trouble matching up all this info here...if I own waterfront property, it seems I own from the road or wherever to the high tide line, and the area covered by water and out to sea at high tide belongs to the government. (Explains having to pay the gov't rent if you have a dock out into the water). So then how can Sloop's neighbor not be able to get rid of someone camping on what sounds like their property...unless the guy is sitting in water at high tide, which I very much doubt?

Because the water is not always at high tide?

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 11:19 pm
(@Iris_Tramm)
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my neighbor lives on a rocky cliff . the guy was btw. the vegetation line and low tide, whcihc in this location is about 30'.
the police came and told my neighbors they could not remove him.
There is a public access trail have may have used. to get to the beach.
today it rained and he is gone.

sloop

Then the guy on the beach was likely within his usage rights unless camping or other use was prohibited for, say, conservation reasons (e.g., like why you can't camp at designated turtle nesting beaches).

 
Posted : May 2, 2013 11:23 pm
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