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trw
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hahahahaha so now i'm a girl queen,a malebitch perhaps,when all else fails resort to name calling LOL,and Kashew it's no worse here than any here else, we're just smaller and we notice it more,c'mon down

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Posted : August 7, 2009 5:16 pm
Tippi
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I got this in an email earlier this morning.

Sunday August 9th Event Against Crime

To everybody who is as shattered and devastated by the recent violence
in our beautiful Virgin Islands!

Yesterday evening a small group of friends got together and being
concerned about the recent violence we spontaneously decided to create
a human chain from Christinasted to Frederiksted. Our motto:

“ALL OF WE ARE MORE DEN DEM” Sunday, August 9th

The plan is to start at 2pm in Christiansted at the Government house
and in Frederiksted at the Fort. We imagine the chain going from
Christiansted along Company Street going towards Pueblo at Golden
Rock, from there passing Basin Triangle until La Reine and then
connecting along Centerline Road. From Frederiksted going Strand
Street then along the street going to the Post office, up the road
towards Centerline road. We imagine the human chain to connect at
Centerline road at 4pm.

Let’s do it and show our strength that: “ALL OF WE ARE MORE DEN DEM”.

Please join from wherever is the closest point of your home and hold
hands.

Let’s create that human chain of peace and love.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 5:32 pm
Lizard
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trw,
Peter is going to be missed not only by family and friends, but Poor kids, Middle Income kids, Rich kids. Peter was a fixture at Hotel on the Cay. He sold Time Shares, Worked the office, Gave Snorkel Lessons, Hosted pool parties, delivered the Garbage from the Cay to Gallows for pick up, Was one of the Boat Captains for the Ferry on the Cay. Where he shined the most was for years he was "The Man" who was in charge of the Crab Races at the Hotel. There was always a bottle of Rum or a Gift certificate for the Harbormaster for the winners. However nobody ever lost, you see most of the players for the Crab Races were kids. Peter would "buy" small toy's for every kid that played. Each Kid that played (and adult) would name their
crab and a number would be painted on the crabs shell (with non toxic water marker) to correspond with the name. He entertained and captivated his audience with double meaning jokes and some trivia about the islands. My adult children, who when they were kids played his crab races, as well as my Grandchildren. We are all deeply saddened by this Reckless and Tragic event. I know Peter would never want any kid to be referred to as trash.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 5:35 pm
changesinlattitide
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Kashew,

I would consider postponing a move to STX until something is done about the crime and the corruption. You will not be safe. Quit luring people to the island...... "it's no worse here than any here else, we're just smaller and we notice it more,c'mon down"

I lived there. We love and miss STX. We were never a victim of a violent act. We were extra careful, took precautions, and were always lucky enough to not be at the right place at the wrong time. We have seriously considered moving back, but I am not ready to give up my peace of mind living in the good old Midwest. Yes, I lock my doors, I don't pick up strangers. I don't live with a constant cloud of looming fear like on the island.

Call a spade a spade. The island is not safe. Admit it and deal with it!!!! It will not go away. The police aren't going to resue you.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 5:42 pm
trw
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oh i know we've all heard the saying there are no bad kids only bad parents,by the time a kid reaches puberty he or she is already good or bad,i deal with great kids all the time we have some great kids here in the neighborhood my neices and nephews are great kids but on the other hand you have troublemakers,bullies,thiefs those are the ones i refer to as trash

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Posted : August 7, 2009 5:46 pm
curran17
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well the gov released this figure yesterday, it costs on average 221 thousand dollars to raise an average kid to age 18,please tell me the gov is not paying this much for welfare trash children

I would not call the children "trash" but I will call the parents that that have baby after baby after baby on the backs of the working people , irresponsible,lazy, horrile role models and maybe....Trash. The children are victims !
Does it upset me that a porion of my paycheck goes to support these "parents" choices? YES!! Very much! Many many of these young men are not supporting their kids??? We are!! I am a teacher and I know the deal all so well.
Medicaid, food stamps. housing, cash assistance, pell grants, free lunch, free breakfast, housing projects(those nice water view projects near the seaplane)............
I really think that we get a motor home and offer $100 dollar bills, juice and cookies to teenagers that are "already" living in poverty and help them fill out a pell grant for college instead of having baby after baby. Every 6 months that you get your Birth control shot- you get a 100 dollar bill and job/college help. the motor home can go to all the places that are supported by government dollars, I bet you find able bodies young men in there taking up the space for a single struggling mom....ONLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN should be in government housing. Young Men should have some pride and not live off the backs of working America. Still can't hack it? Join the service and become a real man.
This would change the current "role" model..these baby's daddies are rotten role models, rotten........yes..trash.....them is trash

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Posted : August 7, 2009 5:51 pm
Irijah
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it is not the point trw....
it is HOW you say things...with no discipline...kill people...hire vigilantes...welfare trash children...surely you can take a minute, breath and perhaps say what you want to say without putting others down...it does not make for balance in an already volatile situation.
the violence and crime is out of hand...
period...without all the other stuff added...on an internationally viewed board.

and why is it that pretty much everyone on this board realizes that i'm just venting my frustration except you?

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Posted : August 7, 2009 7:11 pm
trw
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it's no longer about peter,it's about a broken down system that is getting worse,it's about out of control crime,it's about projects that are hotbeds of vice and crime,they need to be torn down and people need to be moved into houses,it's about a broken school system that needs to be reformed ,it's about corrupt politicians lining their own pockets,how on earth can senator dowe afford to build a mansion over on stt,it's about a dead downtown night after night,it's about people burying their heads in the sand or looking the other way all the time,it's about people NOT taking any responsibility for themselves,their children and their actions,it's about cops that play pool instead of patroling the street,drastic steps need to be taken,NOW

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Posted : August 7, 2009 7:22 pm
jewelygirl
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What is this - Fox News!!!

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Posted : August 7, 2009 7:46 pm
A Davis
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* welfare trash checking in *

born, raised and liberated. but i object to the trash label, as i did not put myself there.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 8:00 pm
bethburnett70
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Anita, as always, any thread is worth reading if it means seeing a post by you at the end. 🙂

Tippi, thanks for the info. I will send it on to my email list.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 8:06 pm
nforbes
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Just saw this on the VIPD website:

http://www.vipd.gov.vi/press_releases/show-press-release.aspx?id=2009-263&month=08

definitely need more of these! and let's not release him to House Arrest.

http://www.vipd.gov.vi/crime/houseArrests.aspx

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Posted : August 7, 2009 8:08 pm
A Davis
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trw, you fire off fast, but you often hit more than you intend. we get your points. the slaps sting though.

thanks bethburnett70 - i should participate more, seems i only poke my head up when vexed!

nforbes that's a good link that i often visit for the vipd - it's being kept up to date and that's a good thing too.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 8:18 pm
Kashew
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Kashew,

I would consider postponing a move to STX until something is done about the crime and the corruption. You will not be safe. Quit luring people to the island...... "it's no worse here than any here else, we're just smaller and we notice it more,c'mon down"

I lived there. We love and miss STX. We were never a victim of a violent act. We were extra careful, took precautions, and were always lucky enough to not be at the right place at the wrong time. We have seriously considered moving back, but I am not ready to give up my peace of mind living in the good old Midwest. Yes, I lock my doors, I don't pick up strangers. I don't live with a constant cloud of looming fear like on the island.

Call a spade a spade. The island is not safe. Admit it and deal with it!!!! It will not go away. The police aren't going to resue you.

Word. I don't know if I could move to STX from Upstate NY where I can leave my car running while I run into the store.

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Posted : August 7, 2009 9:09 pm
stcmike
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The USVI is not America's paradise, its America's cesspool. Crime is outrageous, prices are sky high, 2 Of the 3 islands are littered with trash, a large portion of the politicians are corrupt and overpaid, the press loving do nothing Inspector General has been in office to long, the education system SUCKS, teenage pregnancy is a ticking time bomb, medical care is a joke and people waste countless dollars and time on a stupid constitutional document which is loaded with racism. With the exception of Hovensa there is essentially no private industry on the island, I hope the Virgin Islands some day succeeds from the US so our tax dollars can stop being wasted on this welfare state.

American paradise - its Hawaii, Key West, Martha's Vineyard or a number of other desirable locations - it certainly isn't St. Thomas.

After reading the above you may be hurt and upset, but in your heart of hearts you know its the truth

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Posted : August 7, 2009 11:46 pm
Tippi
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Bethburnett70,

May our communities bond together for the betterment of all. Glad to see you're helping spread the word about Sunday's event!

We can all build a safe island one step at a time with continual daily efforts.

Tippi

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Posted : August 7, 2009 11:51 pm
DUN
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it's no longer about peter,it's about a broken down system that is getting worse,it's about out of control crime,it's about projects that are hotbeds of vice and crime,they need to be torn down and people need to be moved into houses,it's about a broken school system that needs to be reformed ,it's about corrupt politicians lining their own pockets,how on earth can senator dowe afford to build a mansion over on stt,it's about a dead downtown night after night,it's about people burying their heads in the sand or looking the other way all the time,it's about people NOT taking any responsibility for themselves,their children and their actions,it's about cops that play pool instead of patroling the street,drastic steps need to be taken,NOW

About Dowe,
He got 2 $75000 checks & said he thought the second was a Christmas bonus when he was in the fire dept.
He never has to return the check!
OK, there`s 75K, don`t know where the other 2mill? came from!

Um, & I agree on the rest!
I understand your anger for the lazy dead beats, I too have a VERY hard time knowing I`m paying for this!!!
The time will come soon(sooner if Obama taxes small & large business to pay for these deadbeats), when the people who contribute, will have had enough & shut their business down!

We can start again, when the system is more equitable!

"Obama, instead of freely distributing my weath, freely distribute my work ethic"!

I want Obama to succeed, he is my president, & this is my country.
I just don`t think the working people can take it anymore!

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Posted : August 8, 2009 12:00 am
Lizard
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stcmike,
I think you meant to say secede.

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Posted : August 8, 2009 12:01 am
Michaelds9
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Anita you are an example I wish more could follow(tu)

Having had my two children handed to me after their births and looked into those beautiful young eyes I can't imagine anyone being "disposable". Certainly they are born of great potential and given the chance to be someone might do wonderful rather than terrible....

and when they came after me there was no one left to help

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Posted : August 8, 2009 1:21 am
Uttica
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I am NOT in the TRW camp. I am not in the "I love TRW with all that he says" like most people on this thread. In fact, I think that he is a clown.

But on occasions, he deserves some respect. He does, in fact, calls 'em as he sees 'em. Which is more respectable than most on this board.

I have read this post top to bottom and his point of: "Obama, instead of freely distributing my weath, freely distribute my work ethic"!, makes the most since of all I read.

STCMIKE also made a good point:
"The USVI is not America's paradise, its America's cesspool."

Time to "take" the island. If locals won't do it, let the Feds.

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Posted : August 8, 2009 1:31 am
A Davis
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michaelds9,

thanks, i appreciate that.

i don't always succeed, but i really want to hate the sin and not the sinner. for many, it is much easier to attach lack or failure to character - i guess it helps us to peg people. any day is a good day to be pegged, and i keep that in mind as i observe others. because any day it's my turn. i don't like to think of people as "bad" or "good" - although i am well aware of the fact that not everyone has my best interests at heart. i am not naive.

i lived in projects, grew up poor, and nothing within my sights as a young child resembled my life now. but the human thing to do when you see certain things all around you, is to decide that this is reality. like the elephant who is chained to a little stake in the ground from a young age, and when he weighs enough to drag a car, he can still be tied with a little piece of rope tied to a little stake in the ground.

i think people feel revulsion towards people who are "not like them", not realizing that given the proper circumstances, anyone (me included) can be "like them". i don't put anything past myself. the only person you can really trust is you. unless you are lying to yourself.

* gets off soapbox, but that felt good *

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Posted : August 8, 2009 2:13 am
mydream
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Children are not trash. Trw you obviously do not have any. Children do not get to choose(sp) how, or what condition they are brought up in.
My mother was on welfare when she brought us up.I do remember at one point she worked very hard on an assembly line for years.We did get food stamps, was to compensate for the pay check she brought home. The paycheck wasn't enough. She did what she had to do to raise three children. Oh and Trw, we lived in a trailer park. I guess you could say we were"trailer park trash". Today I am 43 years old, own my own business. My sister is a multimillionaire and my mother lives very comfortable. Yep , I am the product of trailer park white trash. Damn proud of it too. Any child, rich or poor should have the same chance to grow and thrive.

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Posted : August 8, 2009 2:16 am
curran17
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Living in a trailer and "working" while getting a HAND UP to feed your children is NOT the same as living on public assistance for generations. What your mom used the assistance for was what it was intended to be used for.-temporary- and obviously it worked...Look at the results
A. Davis should read the book UNDERSTANDING POVERTY....all teachers in poor areas should read it...it makes sense --what she said about reality-- and how children can overcome this...education, relationships and money.
The USVI projects have "generational poverty" which is a very tough nut to crack. Accepted, a reality for them. Comfortable. Only Education, relationships and money will help this

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Posted : August 8, 2009 7:17 am
davidwarrenmetz
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I am a doctor and was planning to move to STJ. Can you someone please rank the islands from best to worst in terms of crime? Thanks!

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Posted : August 9, 2009 12:58 am
dntw8up
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No, it is not possible to rank the islands in terms of crime. The combined population of all the USVIs is only 100,000, and any statistics gleaned from such a small sample are meaningless. The slaying of one family can skew the numbers and make that island seem more dangerous, when another island has fewer deaths but the victims are more randomly selected which would make it more dangerous. The islands are all about equal in terms of crime relative to the size of their population.

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Posted : August 9, 2009 1:39 am
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