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conchadoo
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WE? Not on a tip jar!

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Posted : March 27, 2013 6:02 pm
Jamison
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WE? Not on a tip jar!

What's that suppose to mean?

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Posted : March 27, 2013 6:04 pm
conchadoo
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You figure everything out, what's so hard about this one.

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Posted : March 27, 2013 6:14 pm
GoodToGo
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Doesn't this refinery need something like $1B on catch up maintenance/turnarounds, better part of $1B for upgrades (e.g., a hyrdocracker and a natural gas source/capacity for boiling oil), and something like $700M for the consent decree cleanup mess? Given it lost $1.3B in its past few years of operation I somehow doubt it's going to re-open again unless someone convinces an airline (and they don't have the cash) or Costco to buy it...

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Posted : March 27, 2013 8:30 pm
Alana33
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It also has to come into compliance with EPA rules and regs. which will take millions.
The pollution from the oil refinery was significant.

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Posted : March 27, 2013 9:51 pm
Rowdy802
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Doesn't this refinery need something like $1B on catch up maintenance/turnarounds, better part of $1B for upgrades (e.g., a hyrdocracker and a natural gas source/capacity for boiling oil), and something like $700M for the consent decree cleanup mess? Given it lost $1.3B in its past few years of operation I somehow doubt it's going to re-open again unless someone convinces an airline (and they don't have the cash) or Costco to buy it...

You know quite a bit and most of what you say is true... But, the refinery does not need a Hydro cracker Unit... It already has an FCC that feeds the USA market hunger for fuel and not diesel... Hydro cracker Unit are more common in Europe because they want more diesel than gasoline... Out of the top of my head, a Hydro cracker yields about 50/50 whilst a Fluid Catalytic Cracker (FCC) yields 70 gasoline/ 30 diesel... A lot of people don't know this, and I am adding a bit more to your post, but the Delayed Cocker Unit in there is one of the most modern and newest in the USA, and it already has a brand new Low Sulfur Gas Unit...

The refinery, as it stands, needs way more than 1 billion in maintenance, repairs, and upgrades... Some of those upgrades are EPA related... Most of it is to update it to CNG... Its biggest enemy is that it has been offline for over a year so, the environmental damage, both on St.Croix and the refinery itself, is substantial...

As a side note (and this is not for you GoodToGo but directed at some of the posts I've read), please, don't be so harsh to the Petrochemical Industry... Our civilization wouldn't be where it is if it wasn't for it... more than 99% of what you use today comes one way or the other from it, or power generated by it was used... So, next time you turn on a light, open your fridge, use your stove (yes, even if it is propane), get in your car, go to the hospital, use your computer, etc, etc, etc, etc, be at least a bit thankful... than doesn't excuse them for being careless and allow spills and emissions... And doesn't mean that I am against alternative energy which I am a big fan of...

Everybody is quick to blame the refineries, yet, you have Diageo, Cruzan Rum, and Wapa, to name a few, generating emissions... and let's not talk about the cars and trucks that will not pass the basic emissions test in the VIs... specially after some mechanics are quick to tell you to eliminate the catalytic converter...

I can go on and on and on... Once again, this thread is about job opportunities for those who go nothing and have experience in the Petrochemical Industry...

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Posted : March 28, 2013 12:08 am
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