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SkysTheLimit
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A friend sent me the following info. Thought I'd pass it on.

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Even if you have a gun, here is a more humane way to wreck someone's evil
plans for you....and you can carry it in your car with no problem!!
Did you know this? I didn't. I never really thought of it Before.
I guess I can get rid of the baseball bat.

Wasp Spray
A friend who is a receptionist in a church in a high risk area was concerned
about someone coming into the office on Monday to rob them when they were
counting the collection. She asked the local police department about using
pepper spray and they recommended to her that she get a can of wasp spray
instead.
The wasp spray, they told her, can shoot up to twenty feet away and is a lot
more accurate, while with the pepper spray, they have to get too close to
you and could overpower you. The wasp spray temporarily blinds an attacker
until they get to the hospital for an antidote. She keeps a can on her desk
in the office and it doesn't attract attention from people like a can of
pepper spray would. She also keeps one nearby at home for home protection.
Thought this was interesting and might be of use.

On the heels of a break in and beating that left an elderly woman in Toledo
dead, self defense experts have a tip that could save your life.

Val Glinka teaches self-defense to students at Sylvania Southview High
School. For decades, he's suggested putting a can of wasp and hornet spray
near your door or bed.
Glinka says, "This is better than anything I can teach them."
Glinka considers it inexpensive, easy to find, and more effective than mace
or pepper spray. The cans typically shoot 20 to 30 feet; so if someone tries
to break into your home, Glinka says "spray the culprit in the eyes". It's a
tip he's given to students for decades.
It's also one he wants everyone to hear. If you're looking for protection,
Glinka says look to the spray.
"That's going to give you a chance to call the police; maybe get out."
Maybe even save a life.
Please share this with all the people in your life.

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Topic starter Posted : March 4, 2010 4:36 pm
vacationstx
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Great tip--thanks. I hope everyone passes this on to a friend.

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Posted : March 4, 2010 6:45 pm
Michaelds9
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good urban legend but I suggest you read snopes on this subject

http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/waspspray.asp

knife shop in the Pan Am plaza can sell you some SERIOUS pepper spray.

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Posted : March 4, 2010 9:03 pm
pamela
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I read snopes. So my main concerns are (a) it is illegal to use this product in a manner inconsistent with it's intended use and (b) the ingredients might not be safe for the person i am using it on?

I can just see that. Oh excuse me sir while you try to rob/rape/maime me but the only defense I have is this can of bug spray and I do not wish to get in trouble with the federal government or cause you grievous harm so go right ahead and do your thing.

Snorting my drink out my nose here!

Pamela

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Posted : March 4, 2010 9:31 pm
chockman
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Just remember,it is better to be tried by 12 than it is to be carried by 6. Don't walk around paranoid but don't be a victim as well.

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Posted : March 4, 2010 10:02 pm
Michaelds9
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the point being it may not work.
I used wasp stopper for years and on occasion had the wind shift and get it in my face to little effect.
why not just use something proven to work?

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Posted : March 4, 2010 10:14 pm
dougtamjj
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A can of quick start and a lighter works great.

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Posted : March 4, 2010 11:23 pm
pamela
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OHHH WD 40 and lighter is cool also.

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Posted : March 4, 2010 11:26 pm
dougtamjj
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Yeah Pamela, Pretty awesome flame throwers. It is amazing how far the flame will go. Kills those wasps every time. 😉

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Posted : March 5, 2010 1:17 am
DixieChick
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my niece *-)was trying out her pepper spray and sprayed herself. and he husband is a policeman too.

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Posted : March 5, 2010 4:30 pm
antiqueone
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I have heard it said that the watered down pepper spray that civilians can buy is not strong enough to stop a determined attacker. I think if you are being attacked, and fear for you life that you should grab anything near by to protect yourself. If that happens to be wasp spray, then so be it. Whatever keeps you safe.

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Posted : March 5, 2010 8:40 pm
Michaelds9
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I have heard it said that the watered down pepper spray that civilians can buy is not strong enough to stop a determined attacker. I think if you are being attacked, and fear for you life that you should grab anything near by to protect yourself. If that happens to be wasp spray, then so be it. Whatever keeps you safe.

and I heard the Easter bunny lays chocolate eggs.......... you have any proof ?

does anyone here pro wasp spray have and data to support it is effective against human or even sub-human attackers?

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Posted : March 6, 2010 12:55 am
Lizard
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Everybody Knows that the Easter Bunny Doesn't lay eggs no less chocolate eggs.

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Posted : March 6, 2010 12:27 pm
antiqueone
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Michaelds9 -- if it doesn't , then throw the can at them....and then shoot them. Do whatever you have to to protect your family...but only if you are in fear of your life. The crazy way things are these days, if someone is trying to rob you and you spray him with wasp spray (or worse yet you shoot him) you will probably get sued for assault by the robber and he'll win, too.

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Posted : March 6, 2010 1:51 pm
Michaelds9
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exactly my point!
use something proven to be effective for you first line of defense AND won't get you in trouble for misapplication.
now if push comes to shove do whatever works and sort it out later BUT don't go looking for trouble U and VI law as crazy as they are

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Posted : March 6, 2010 4:24 pm
GoodToGo
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exactly my point!
use something proven to be effective for you first line of defense AND won't get you in trouble for misapplication.
now if push comes to shove do whatever works and sort it out later BUT don't go looking for trouble U and VI law as crazy as they are

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Posted : March 7, 2010 5:07 pm
pamela
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I can tell you from personal experience some of the bad guys are afraid of flare guns 🙂

Pamela

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Posted : March 7, 2010 5:08 pm
DUN
 DUN
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Any boater who watched Dead Calm would be!(or anyone who watched Angelos video from old Yacht Haven fame).
I`d put it here, but can't BC of the language!

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Posted : March 7, 2010 10:02 pm
chockman
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Dun, I couldn't remember the name of the movie,Dead Calm. The Flare gun seemed to be a appropriate choice though.

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Posted : March 8, 2010 2:27 am
brockettfamily
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Pamela, If you are truly in fear of your life (whether it be rape, kidnapping, mugging, etc) or someone breaks into your home, you have a right to defend yourself by any means necessary to save yourself and your family. I wouldn't even think twice about spraying someone with bug spray if they attacked me or broke into my home. They wouldn't have gotten hurt had they not broke the law to begin with. And I think the police would rather you use a form protection that is less lethal than a gun. Lot less of a mess for you to clean up to then if you shot someone and their blood got all over your house. Hopefully, you will never have to find out first hand though 🙂

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Posted : March 15, 2010 1:29 am
pamela
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Amen.

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Posted : March 15, 2010 6:50 pm
Juanita
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When we were cruising, we were boarded at 2:00 AM off St. Lucia. While hubby was in the cockpit screaming, "get off my boat", I was down below getting the flare gun ready. The guy finally jumped overboard, so we didn't need to use it, which is a really good thing because I know we would have put a hole in the cockpit and set the boat on fire! We gave up on carrying a real gun years before. Is was too much of a hassle with customs in most foreign ports. Wish we had known about wasp spray then. It would have been perfect.

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Posted : March 15, 2010 7:58 pm
poorthang
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which brings up an interesting question......for boaters only.... is the act of unwelcomed boarding akin to breaking and entering....or is it a life threatening act.... AKA >>>> PIRACY..and would you h ave the right to shoot first and ask questions later.... I have always heard that line in the movies ...Permission to board !!! just curious ... what would you do or have had to do with un welcom advances..??????*-)

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Posted : March 15, 2010 8:22 pm
li2stx
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I'm going with an airhorn and a winch handle. I think noise is your best defense and if that doesn't work, the winch handle is next
Juanita, sorry about your experience off of St Lucia, but I also didn't like that area, much nicer areas further down the chain.

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Posted : March 15, 2010 10:29 pm
brockettfamily
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poorthang,

I believe your boat would grant you the same protection as your home, but I am not positive. My brother is a river patrol Sheriff in AZ and they never charged anyone who protected their boat from unwanted visitors. I don't know if the same would apply to open ocean. I would like to think it would though.

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Posted : March 15, 2010 10:41 pm
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