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speee1dy
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cold
i have seen small shanty areas of course by the dumpsters in the peters rest area and also at the beach by the public housing complex near pueblo. i think that one has since been torn down. i think last year they did a clean up of the beach. and if you are building there are a few good contractors on the island. if you need to know who they are i can give you a few names. no matter what city you live in there are going to be homeless people and all major cities have shanty areas. most of the homelss i encounter in christiansted are nice . have not seen dale in quite awhile. anyone know where he is??

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Posted : January 14, 2009 11:11 am
desonierstcroix
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I don't know of any shanty towns but there is squatters village mid-to west island. Its not tents or huts but they don't own the land they've built on. I believe its called Freidensberg. Some missionary friends of mine have spent time with some of the families out there. Hope this helps.

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Posted : January 14, 2009 11:15 am
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Who's Richard?

PT

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Posted : January 14, 2009 12:54 pm
jewelygirl
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Please don't come here with your elitist attitude.

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Posted : January 14, 2009 1:43 pm
Lizard
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For an answer to your question.....live east of Cramers Park and do all your shopping at Lauries Deli East to avoid any people below your tax bracket, also avoid any beaches that are easily accessible so you don't run into any 'camps', and never ever go to the transfer stations because there people take your old couches and sit on them. Don't even think about walking around C'sted cause you might have to say hello to Richard.

I'm not inquiring in order to understand the real estate, what might cause some areas to be less expensive, and areas safest for children... you've caught me just trying to avoid all the dirty islanders who don't appreciate tea at noon and say aunt with a "u".

I guess I'M a dirty little islander who doesn't appreciate tea at noon! I don't know if he is from Texas or NY, wonder how many there appreciate tea at noon. I think they have fixed the gate on the east end that keeps the insects out.

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Posted : January 14, 2009 2:17 pm
stephaniev
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Richard is the man downtown who says good day to anyone who walks by. I have always had nice encounters with him. Hey cold,wanna buy me a house too? I want to come back there-alot!! if you're spending hot $$ on real estate you could do it!

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Posted : January 14, 2009 2:37 pm
ColdWhether
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Please don't come here with your elitist attitude.

There is nothing elitist about my attitude. I'm buying property and am investigating some important questions that any buyer should get the answers to before buying.

The reaction from many of the posters here is really shocking to me, how is this any different than when you buy a car and ask if it's been in any accidents? Nobody gets offended when you ask that question.

What I find most telling is how a small handful of posters get so offended by the question, scream at the top of their lungs that there are no shanty's... but then it comes out that yes in fact there are/were shanty's. To me this means that either the people denying it are lying or they simply don't really know their own island.

There is nothing elitist about wanting to make sure that if you buy a house for x that it's really worth x.

Adios, I got my answers thanks to those of you who provided them.

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Topic starter Posted : January 14, 2009 2:39 pm
MosquitoBaitt
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ColdWhether - check your PM

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Posted : January 14, 2009 4:49 pm
rkurpiers
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Perhaps ColdWeather is stuck in a time warp?

Regarding St. Thomas, there used to be what is described as "squatter camps" but they were cleaned up some 35+ years ago. The one that comes to my mind was located in Contant in the area across the street and just east of Gottlieb's Esso station. It was torn down to make way for the Medical building. This was during a time when there was lax enforcement of illegal aliens coming from "down island" and, having no income and no place to stay upon arriving in the U.S.V.I., they would gravitate to living in these "squatter camps" that had little electricity and no running water.

But that was SO LONG AGO...

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Posted : January 14, 2009 5:49 pm
AllMashUp
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Please don't come here with your elitist attitude.

There is nothing elitist about my attitude. I'm buying property and am investigating some important questions that any buyer should get the answers to before buying.

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I agree, it is a perfectly valid and important to ask questions...I just think you should have little more tact in asking them of strangers.

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Posted : January 14, 2009 8:13 pm
speee1dy
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i didnt think coldwhether was being rude at all. i thought his questions were good ones. i thought he had tact as well.

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Posted : January 14, 2009 8:37 pm
jewelygirl
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"I'm not inquiring in order to understand the real estate, what might cause some areas to be less expensive, and areas safest for children... you've caught me just trying to avoid all the dirty islanders who don't appreciate tea at noon and say aunt with a "u".

Speedy - you don't think the above statement is rude? Dirty islanders? I don't appreciate tea at noon and I say aunt with a "u". So do many other folks.

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Posted : January 15, 2009 2:36 pm
speee1dy
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i think he was being sarcastic because people were jumping on him for even asking about shanty towns. sarcasm is a defense mechanism

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Posted : January 15, 2009 3:52 pm
Lizard
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speee 1dy
Maybe you should read his first inquiry again. Something about he knows about STT etc., a little more than sarcasm there. "Dirty Islanders" Hmmm. You get what you give! I guess that's the me generation today. I need, (I want, I have, I'm better!!!!!!!!!).

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Posted : January 15, 2009 5:03 pm
ColdWhether
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The aunt, tea at noon, dirty islanders stuff was a joke, everybody but you saw that.

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Topic starter Posted : January 15, 2009 6:42 pm
East Ender
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Cold: I googled median household income and came up with these statistics from the 2000 census:

Austin TX - 42,689
USVI- 24,704

My dollar key isn't working, but you get the idea.

Additionally, in Austin 9.3% of the population has a household income under 10,000. In the USVI, 17.9% have a household income under 5,000.

So, if you were asking if you were likely to run into people with very low income, the answer is, yes, much more likely than in Austin. Also, because of lack of planning and zoning, neighborhoods are more heterogeneous.

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Posted : January 15, 2009 7:08 pm
ColdWhether
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East Ender, I wasn't concerned about being near poor people or even homeless for that matter... I just want to make sure that the home values aren't impacted by something i'm not aware of.

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Topic starter Posted : January 15, 2009 7:29 pm
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I went back and read the original post, and re-read it several times looking for something offensive. For the life of me, I don't get it! I didn't see anything wrong with the "tone" or the content. Seemed like a reasonable question to me. As for the comment about dirty islanders, tea and aunts, well, I read that as a tongue in cheek style of emphasizing the point that was NOT how his question should have been taken.

Don't take it to heart Coldweather. You won't be expelled, or anything. Most everyone on here occasionally writes something that can be misunderstood. It would probably help if we could hear each other. The tone of voice has to be imagined, and that's not always easy.

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Posted : January 15, 2009 8:31 pm
speee1dy
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lizard
i think coldwhether answered it pretty well for me

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Posted : January 15, 2009 8:44 pm
SunshineCruzan
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ditto

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Posted : January 16, 2009 5:40 am
Lizard
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mea maxima culpa "NOT"

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Posted : January 16, 2009 12:35 pm
MosquitoBaitt
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lizard
i think coldwhether answered it pretty well for me

🙂
Good Luck!

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Posted : January 17, 2009 6:36 pm
ironman
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are there any rats on st. croix? if so, where do they live? i did.nt see any when i was there. seems to me some people on this thread got downright indignant someone would presume to think they would live somewhere were, oh my god, not squatters, lived. really, the person asked a simple question which, required a simple answer.

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Posted : January 17, 2009 7:20 pm
Betty
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Didn't ask, said he knew there were squatter towns. Do you like it when strangers assume something about you?

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Posted : January 17, 2009 8:57 pm
dougtamjj
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Yes there are rats.

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Posted : January 17, 2009 9:20 pm
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