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South West St Croix looks worse than Hugo  

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LiquidFluoride
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I'm glad most of the island didn't get hit like the south west corner did, lots of roofs gone and it seems like 1/4th of the trees were knocked down (the rest lost branches, leafs and even bark).

I hope all the west end types are ok, I drove around a bit yesterday and it's a nightmare of fallen trees/power poles and demolished houses.

I lost a small part of my roof, 6 solar panels and 1/3 of the large tree's on my property are knocked down (usually taking a fence or two with them).

The wind was so strong it blew sheets of plywood off my windows on the SE corner and part of my house got a nice wind-blast cleaning (well, not "cleaning" really..).

It looks like a completely different place out west with no bush to divide the land up, I can see all the neighbors I never could see before (and my dogs are a bit freaked out by it).

Hope everyone is safe, the south-west end certainly took a hard hit from my trips around and in F'sted.

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : September 22, 2017 1:52 am
lescooper
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What a shame that there is that much destruction. Sounds like those of us around Christiansted and the north east shore fared much better. Best wishes in restoring your home and property.

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Posted : September 22, 2017 2:15 am
Gumbo
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I hate to hear it, most of us on STT are very disappointed about the damage on STX. You guys were kind and helped us out all you could. It appears that little in the eastern caribbean was spared. From my house looking east over the valley toward Red Hook it looks like anout 1/3 of the roofs are gone. The trees that are still here are badley beaten. At least your airport is functional, so the entire VI isn't cut off from help. I'm thankful my old wooden house is still here. Liquid, all of us appreciate your part in the recovery effort.

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Posted : September 22, 2017 10:23 am
ironheadUSVI
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I lost the roof on my Frederiksted house. But I'm told it's rebuildable.

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Posted : September 22, 2017 10:38 am
LiquidFluoride
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At least your airport is functional, so the entire VI isn't cut off from help

Unfortunately it's only as functional as yours is. They are both damaged in similar ways, but the military can use either because we don't require tower support to land, or even working runways... haha. (though the runways are mostly fine on both islands).

There's a LOT of government assets here, it's a bit slow to deploy but I have hope that this will be a fast recovery, we literally have 700ish marines WAITING to be told to do something; my vote is start to trench all the power lines so this ridiculousness doesn't happen again.

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : September 22, 2017 5:54 pm
LiquidFluoride
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Liquid, all of us appreciate your part in the recovery effort.

unfortunately it feels like I've done more with my chain and truck in the past few days than I've done to help at work (on the way back from lunch I towed a guy that broke fuel line on a downed tree, pulled many tree's out of the road and even a couple old ladies out of ditches).. but it's a bit chaotic up here and I'm sure I'm not seeing the full picture.

I know there were some hiccups with the food distribution, but I'm also SHOCKED at the number of people that are lined up to get food/water.. did that few people prepare?

I have enough food and water to feed the 9 people in my house for 2 or 3 weeks, it's only been a couple of days.....

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : September 22, 2017 5:59 pm
rmb2830
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the feds wanted all the electric lines in the ground after Hugo but the gov't/wapa did not want to have to do it, so they didn't even though I believe it would have been paid for by feds somehow.

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Posted : September 22, 2017 6:05 pm
Pdmargie
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Again, the question is, do you spend the money now to bury the lines or keep spending money to repair/replace the above ground lines?

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Posted : September 22, 2017 8:46 pm
LiquidFluoride
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Again, the question is, do you spend the money now to bury the lines or keep spending money to repair/replace the above ground lines?

at least bury the main feeder lines, then maybe work your way out over time? that alone would help a lot when restoring power.

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : September 22, 2017 9:32 pm
Scubadoo
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Again, the question is, do you spend the money now to bury the lines or keep spending money to repair/replace the above ground lines?

at least bury the main feeder lines, then maybe work your way out over time? that alone would help a lot when restoring power.

That may be one way. Regardless I imagine it will take much longer to trench/bore for underground lines and set pad mounted transformers than to string poles which means if it were done immediately it would significantly lengthen the recovery time. There are likely also additional right of ways that need to be gotten which also adds to the time. Underground lines will require surveying which will take time. I'd think that concrete poles with lines that are well above any trees may be a compromise, either short term or long term. It would be interesting to see the details on what parts of Florida's electrical grid failed and what held up since the use a lot of concrete poles.

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Posted : September 22, 2017 9:48 pm
LiquidFluoride
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That may be one way. Regardless I imagine it will take much longer to trench/bore for underground lines and set pad mounted transformers than to string poles

So do both, and transition the lines as the trenches and ground based transformers are completed. we got that sweet sweet state of emergency money now!

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : September 22, 2017 9:57 pm
Scubadoo
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I agree, it would be great to transition to hurricane resistant infrastructure as time permits.

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Posted : September 23, 2017 1:01 am
Scubadoo
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At least the waterfront buildings in Frederiksted look OK.

HURRICANE MARIA WRECKED THE WEST END OF ST. CROIX

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Posted : September 23, 2017 5:46 pm
Scubadoo
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WAPA will be getting help from outside firms that are coming into the territory to help with power restoration. The governor said while these firms will help WAPA move quickly to restore power, they are not part of the governor’s stated intention to move all the territory’s power lines underground, as such a project would take multiple years.

viconsortium.com

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Posted : September 23, 2017 5:56 pm
Gumbo
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Actually those green poles held up pretty well in places, they are much stronger than the old brown ones were

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Posted : September 23, 2017 10:33 pm
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