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speee1dy
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Does anyone know what happened. I heard about 7 people got stabbed and one died.

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2011 7:31 pm
stxnama
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Heard it was a group of girls!!! On the boardwalk around 10:30 PM!!

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Posted : July 9, 2011 8:21 pm
Juanita
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Story in today's Avis.

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Posted : July 9, 2011 8:29 pm
SkysTheLimit
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Wow! I sure hope you're wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted : July 9, 2011 8:30 pm
SkysTheLimit
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Don't have the Avis.
What happened?

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Posted : July 9, 2011 8:30 pm
Juanita
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A fight broke out on the boardwalk and several females were taken to the hospital.

Five females sustained multiple stab wounds. One dead, two in serious/critical condition.

Police apprehended two suspects, and two suspects got away.

All victims are female and minors. All suspects are female.

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Posted : July 9, 2011 8:57 pm
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I had 3 friends in from the states. They were walking in front of Stixx to meet me at Angry Nates when the fight broke out and ended up in the middle of it. At first they just thought it was a fight and then a knife hit the ground and landed at one of their feet. One of the girls was saying "excuse excuse" trying to pick up the knife and chaos ensued. When my friends met me at Angry Nates they had blood smeared on them but they didn't realize yet someone had been killed. Once we saw the number of police running around (probably over 30 officers canvased the boardwalk) we knew something bad happened and we then heard that someone was dead. The latest I heard is that a second girl died today in the hospital.

My friends came for a week, we went out 3 nights into town and 2 of them ended up kind of messed up. Tuesday night we were out (2fer night at Brew Pub) and someone popped off a round on the boardwalk in front of the Brewpub at around 11:30pm. Everyone hit the deck, fortunately no one was hit. From what I heard it was part of something that culminated later that night with the multiple shootings by the strip club.

The kids are home from college and the ones who are still here have no supervision with school being out which leads to problems. Witnessing in person 2 incidents like this in one week was a bit shocking even for someone who grew up in a pretty rough area and have lived here for nearly 8 years like myself.

There are deep issues here that lead to these events (number one being the complete breakdown of the nuclear family in the VI) but on the immediate prevention front we need to get more cops out on patrol. Town is a pretty easy place to start, there should be police on the boardwalk at least until 1 or 2am, that area should be staffed with 3 officers spread evenly across the boardwalk in constant patrol every night. 3 officers should also be doing rounds on King and Queen street constantly, with never more than 5 minutes going by without an officer on a bike riding by given the size of that route. The lighting needs to be revamped, especially where the murder happened last night near Stixx since it is closed and there is no light emanating from it. But I know that these things won't happen.

My friends definitely got to see a side of the islands that is real but that you don't really want to see. One of them was actually here to meet with someone at the DOE for a teaching job...not sure that the island looks like all that appealing of a place to come work after what he saw this week.

Sean

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Posted : July 9, 2011 9:38 pm
JoeyBallgame
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Is this on STX or STT?

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Posted : July 9, 2011 9:46 pm
stiphy
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STX

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Posted : July 9, 2011 9:47 pm
Cruz
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This incident is so sad on so many levels. No matter how much police or lights are placed on the streets, it's not going to stop these incidents from happening. There have been numerous shootings in the town of Frederiksted, right down the street from the police headquarters (less than a mile away). The problem is much bigger than police.

My message to a visitor is to look at the islands as more than just sea, sand, and surf. This is a place with a lot of REAL problems that need some REAL solutions, and there's no quick fix overnight solution.

Also, it's not only in the Virgin Islands. It seems to be all over the Caribbean and inner cities. 🙁

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Posted : July 9, 2011 9:53 pm
Lizard
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Even after Hugo there was not this much violence! Bring the military back, because what we have now is not working. (td)

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Posted : July 9, 2011 10:21 pm
speee1dy
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Thanks for the info. Such a sad situation.

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Topic starter Posted : July 9, 2011 10:47 pm
saucey
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Brace yourselves, things are going to get worse as the economy goes south.
As more stores close due to an increase in gross receipts & LEAC, more people will be unemployed, more crime.
More vacant buildings, less income for the landlords=less money circulating. Crime goes up, tourism goes down.

There won't be enough officers to maintain peace & order.

Pay attention to what is going on with the governing of the territory.

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Posted : July 9, 2011 11:26 pm
Cruz
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Here's a perfect example when I say that the problem is bigger than law enforcement. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/inmate-killed-at-troubled-us-virgin-islands-prison-that-federal-govt-is-trying-to-take-over/2011/07/09/gIQADlQv5H_story.html

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Posted : July 10, 2011 1:00 am
Leticia
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Not trying to change the subject, but why would the feds wait 25 YEARS to try to take over the prison? Anyway, it may very well get worst than better. What is the answer? It is sad and leaves a sense of hopelessness.

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Posted : July 10, 2011 2:35 am
lunkerlou
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I sat next to one of your friends on the plane yesterday....he told me the whole story! Crazy

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Posted : July 10, 2011 12:27 pm
shibuya
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we are moving to stx in a few months for a job opportunity (had 2 PMVs with no incidence) with two toddlers and this scares the bejesus out of me! is it safe during the day going to grocery, beach, etc...seems like when crime leaks into the general public it is at night in the bar areas?

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Posted : July 10, 2011 11:18 pm
Ms Information
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A fight broke out on the boardwalk and several females were taken to the hospital.

Five females sustained multiple stab wounds. One dead, two in serious/critical condition.

Police apprehended two suspects, and two suspects got away.

All victims are female and minors. All suspects are female.

This is very upsetting, it makes me wonder "just who are these girls". Are they good students from good homes, enrolled in local private schools?? Are they homeless urchins with no moral fiber?? Are they local girls from public schools and dis-functional families?? Are they in school, what race are they, what economic class are they, rich poor?? Are they friends of our children?? Is there some way we can know these things? I think we should ..

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Posted : July 10, 2011 11:55 pm
Neil
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Brace yourselves, things are going to get worse as the economy goes south.
As more stores close due to an increase in gross receipts & LEAC, more people will be unemployed, more crime.
More vacant buildings, less income for the landlords=less money circulating. Crime goes up, tourism goes down.

There won't be enough officers to maintain peace & order.

Pay attention to what is going on with the governing of the territory.

It's a common misconception that bad economy = higher crime.

Overall crime rates have not risen in the states during the Recession.
And in today's 7/11/11 VI DAILY NEWS there's an article about how crime rates have been DROPPING in the USVI.

As heinous as it was, it would be entirely misguided to associate the boardwalk killing with the local economy or parenting, or race.
It was an act of violence and evil, not economics, not culture.

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Posted : July 11, 2011 12:40 pm
Cruz
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Brace yourselves, things are going to get worse as the economy goes south.
As more stores close due to an increase in gross receipts & LEAC, more people will be unemployed, more crime.
More vacant buildings, less income for the landlords=less money circulating. Crime goes up, tourism goes down.

There won't be enough officers to maintain peace & order.

Pay attention to what is going on with the governing of the territory.

It's a common misconception that bad economy = higher crime.

Overall crime rates have not risen in the states during the Recession.
And in today's 7/11/11 VI DAILY NEWS there's an article about how crime rates have been DROPPING in the USVI.

As heinous as it was, it would be entirely misguided to associate the boardwalk killing with the local economy or parenting, or race.
It was an act of violence and evil, not economics, not culture.

*-) smh.....I'm really starting to believe that you work for the V.I. govt or some other entity that doesn't benefit from bad press.

The Daily Nuisance is back at it again with their propaganda.

FYI....the only crime statistic that matters is Homicides and we're on a continuous streak of record breaking years.

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Posted : July 11, 2011 1:32 pm
Neil
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Cruz: You seem bent on a politicizing every problem.
I was addressing the previous poster's erroneous linkage of crime to the economy. Lots of stats and research out there on the subject, ...for those who care to investigate before opining.

Fact Check:
While every murder is one too many, 2011's 27 murders so far is significantly behind 2009's rate (66/yr).
Not far enough, but at least headed in the right direction.

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Posted : July 11, 2011 3:57 pm
Lizard
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Neil,
The problem with numbers (they can change) quickly. It's only July.*-)

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Posted : July 11, 2011 4:22 pm
saucey
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Summer is when the murder rate rises, then again in fall for summer murder retalliation.
These kids can't find summer employment.

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Posted : July 11, 2011 4:34 pm
Cruz
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I also wouldn't put it pass the VIPD to downgrade a simple assault charge to disturbing the peace, or a robbery to trespassing.

And then there's the tendency to turn a homicide into a suicide......

It's all a numbers game.

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Posted : July 11, 2011 5:30 pm
Juanita
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Was the lady ever found that disappeared off the ferry a few months ago?

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Posted : July 11, 2011 5:36 pm
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