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Native Son
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where did you get your info on cisterns being illegal in some states, same with gardening? just a question. sorry, but most of the stuff you posted, nativeson are not facts but just your opinions. and just about all your talk about consumerism is here in the vi's as well.
we get it you love the vi's. sounds like you were born here, raised here. good for you. you should always have pride in your hometown.
your pride is with blinders because you refuse to see what does go on here. that is okay too.
you focused on the crime more than any other point i mentioned.you are exceedingly blind to the crime here. here you are more likely to get killed by a gang member than a cop, so not really sure of your point.

get a grip, just because we point out some of the bad points does not mean we do not like it here. we also point out the good. stop focusing on the bad stuff. there is a lot these islands have to offer, bur for some it is not the be all end all. dont be so defensive all the time. life is much to short for that attitude surrounding you in much of your posts here. we are all different. embrace it .

Thanks for the advice...I have a really good grip, FYI.

"Violent crime committed by Black people" is not going to be the reason for chaos in the USA. "Non-violent crime committed by corporations " does a lot more damage. We can agree to disagree.
I am not "exceedingly blind to the crime here". I resent people always focusing on it.
If you are so afraid of being killed by a 'gang member' then stop being a gang member. Being killed by a gang member is NOT a concern of the vast majority of us who have lived here all our lives. This is my home. I grew up in Grove Place and Williams Delight and graduated from Central High.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 11:47 am
Native Son
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where did you get your info on cisterns being illegal in some states, same with gardening? just a question. sorry, but most of the stuff you posted, nativeson are not facts but just your opinions"

OK, I'll play...

Ask yourself..."why would the US government want to regulate access to water?"
"Who would benefit from regulation of seeds?" (ever heard about Monsanto , GMO crops, and selling of seeds to farmers because they can't grow any crops otherwise? Can't be happening, right?)

Here are 25 FACTS for you to ponder:
It is a long read, so your attention span may be challenged.

#1 Right now, 1.6 billion people live in areas of the world that are facing "absolute water scarcity".
#2 Global water use has quadrupled over the past 100 years and continues to rise rapidly.
#3 One recent study found that a third of all global corn crops are facing "water stress".
#4 A child dies from a water-related disease every 15 seconds.
#5 By 2025, two-thirds of the population of Earth will "be living under water stressed conditions".
#6 Due to a lack of water, Chinese food imports now require more land than the entire state of California.
#7 At this point, the amount of water that China imports is already greater than the amount of oil that the United States imports.
#8 Approximately 80 percent of the major rivers in China have become so polluted that they no longer support any aquatic life at all.
#9 The Great Lakes hold about 21 percent of the total supply of fresh water in the entire world, but Barack Obama is allowing water from those lakes "to be drained, bottled and shipped to China" at a frightening pace.
#10 It is being projected that India will essentially "run out of water" by the year 2050.
#11 It has been estimated that 75 percent of all surface water in India has been heavily contaminated by human or agricultural waste.
#12 In the Middle East, the flow of water in the Jordan River is down to only 2 percent of its historic rate.
#13 Due to a lack of water, Saudi Arabia has essentially given up on trying to grow wheat and will be 100 percent dependent on wheat imports by the year 2016.
#14 Of the 60 million people added to the major cities of the world every year, the vast majority of them live in deeply impoverished areas that have no sanitation facilities whatsoever.
#15 Nearly the entire southwestern United States is experiencing drought conditions as you read this article. It has been this way for most of the past several years.
#16 Thanks in part to the seemingly endless drought, the price index for meat, poultry, fish, and eggs in the U.S. just hit a new all-time high.
#17 As underground aquifers are relentlessly drained in California, some areas of the San Joaquin Valley are sinking by 11 inches a year.
#18 It is being projected that Lake Mead has a 50 percent chance of running dry by the year 2025.
#19 Most Americans don't realize this, but the once mighty Colorado River has become so depleted that it no longer runs all the way to the ocean.
#20 According to the U.S. Geological Survey, "a volume equivalent to two-thirds of the water in Lake Erie" has been permanently drained from the Ogallala Aquifer since 1940, and it is currently being drained at a rate of approximately 800 gallons per minute.
#21 Once upon a time, the Ogallala Aquifer had an average depth of approximately 240 feet, but today the average depth is just 80 feet. In some areas of Texas, the water is already completely gone.
#22 Approximately 40 percent of all rivers and approximately 46 percent of all lakes in the United States have become so polluted that they are are no longer fit for human use.
#23 Because of the high cost and the inefficient use of energy, desalination is not considered to be a widely feasible solution to our water problems at this time...
The largest desalination plant in the Western Hemisphere is currently under construction in Carlsbad in San Diego County at great expense. The price tag: $1 billion.
Right now, San Diego is almost totally dependent on imported water from Sierra snowmelt and the Colorado River. When the desalination plant comes online in 2016, it will produce 50 million gallons per day, enough to offset just 7 percent of the county’s water usage. That’s a huge bill for not very much additional water.
#24 We have filled the North Pacific Ocean with 100 million tons of plastic, and this is starting to have a very serious affect on the marine food chain. Ultimately, this could mean a lot less food available from the Pacific Ocean for humans.
#25 One very shocking U.S. government report concluded that the global demand for water will exceed the global supply of water by 40 percent by the year 2030.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 12:53 pm
speee1dy
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old tart/native son that really shocks me. never would have thought.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 4:10 pm
speee1dy
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nativeson, i do not focus on crime- i do bring it up. i resent that you always think that about people. those are interesting facts you mention.

i do admit when i am wrong.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 4:12 pm
rotorhead
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Murder in the USVI 2012 per 100,000.

The territory recorded 59 homicides, including six vehicular homicides, during the course of the year, amounting to an annual rate of about 56 homicides per 100,000 in population.

The annual total is below the territory's record of 66 homicides in 2010. However, it marks a 20 percent spike over the 49 homicides recorded in 2011 and solidifies the territory's rank during the last decade as one of the world's deadliest places on a per-capita basis.
http://virginislandsdailynews.com/news/v-i-homicide-rate-still-among-world-s-highest-1.1434291

3 Worst places for murder in the U.S. 2012 per 100,000.

Michigan Detroit 54.6
Louisiana New Orleans 53.2
Missouri St. Louis 35.5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Personal experience

You don't have to hang out with gangs or live in the projects to become a victim of crime.
STX. I was sitting in my den at 1:30 am on Nov 30, 2012 watching TV. My wife was in bed asleep. Three armed local thugs broke into our house and held us at gun point while they ransacked our house looking for valuables. This went on for 2 hours. Fortunately for us, my wife had made a call to 911 before they found her and brought her out of the bedroom. The police arrived and killed two of the thugs and wounded the third on our driveway. We were lucky.

I have lived here for 16 years. This is the only place that I have ever lived where I have personally known four people who have been murdered. All within the past 5 years, all still unsolved.

Crime happens everywhere, it just happens more frequently in the USVI and you don't avoid it by staying home.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 5:52 pm
Alana33
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If all of you are so upset by the crime rate (and this is not disparaging your ordeal, rotorwhich was horrendous) why do you continue to live here?

You all complain so much about crime but haven't heard anyone concerned enough about setting up neighborhood watches, or doing other things, etc.

There must be things that balance out your lives here that supercede the crime rate to live in this so-called crime infested territory????

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Posted : June 20, 2014 6:00 pm
rotorhead
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If all of you are so upset by the crime rate (and this is not disparaging your ordeal, rotor which was horrendous) why do you continue to live here?

I am still here because it takes time to sell all of the possessions that have been collected over 16 years and to sell a house and properties in the middle of one of the worst downturns in the housing market in recent history.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 6:08 pm
OldTart
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If all of you are so upset by the crime rate (and this is not disparaging your ordeal, rotor which was horrendous) why do you continue to live here?

I am still here because it takes time to sell all of the possessions that have been collected over 16 years and to sell a house and properties in the middle of one of the worst downturns in the housing market in recent history.

So do you have your properties up for sale?

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Posted : June 20, 2014 6:41 pm
speee1dy
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alana, never said i was so upset. it is just wrong when people basically say that the crime problem is no worse than stateside or that stateside is worse. we all know statistically speaking, there is more crime here than in most places in the states. these are facts not perceptions.

native son, i never once mentioned race when talking about crime-please do not infer i did.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 7:41 pm
Alana33
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Seriously, not coming down on anyone at all but the overall judgment call by many posters is that we live in a crime ridden island and no-one is safe so was just curious when so many feel that way, (besides the downturn and length of time it takes these days to sell property) continue to stay and what else (positive) keeps people here that do nothing but complain about crime?

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Posted : June 20, 2014 7:49 pm
CruzanIron
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As soon as the economy improves, I'm selling everything and leaving.
If it does not improve, I'll sell anyway in 5 years.

As far as crime, when you remove gang related and domestic violence,
there isn't much left to affect most of us except burglaries.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 8:19 pm
Alana33
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Thought you were just moving back CI?

Sorry, to be seemingly off topic as this post reflects but happy original poster had a great PMV.
It is different to work and live here vs having retirement lifestyle one can afford or the income to afford such whatever you wish.

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Posted : June 20, 2014 9:13 pm
CruzanIron
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Moving back, Alana? What are you talking about?

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Posted : June 20, 2014 9:55 pm
Alana33
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Opps - my mistake! saw the below.

I'm getting ready to make the move down to the islands and this board has been a huge help, so hopefully I can help someone out. For the last year I have been managing a friends beach front villa rental here in Daytona Beach. It occur ed to me that some of my island friends might be looking for a great place to stay on the mainland during the offseason. Check out the link below and PM me if your interested, I'll get you a discount on the week or monthly rate. Cheers
Saw this and thought it was you!The tag was from Cruzan1 as opposed to your CruzanIron.

I sincerely and humbly apologize for my mistake!:D

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Posted : June 20, 2014 10:23 pm
noOne
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If all of you are so upset by the crime rate (and this is not disparaging your ordeal, rotor which was horrendous) why do you continue to live here?

I am still here because it takes time to sell all of the possessions that have been collected over 16 years and to sell a house and properties in the middle of one of the worst downturns in the housing market in recent history.

Which is due to the Republicans (the economy) which has been getting better despite Congress doing nothing but investigate Benghazi and try (how many times now?) to repeal Obamacare...

I see you sold your chopper in '12 heh, I guess you are serious about leaving...

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Posted : June 21, 2014 3:55 am
noOne
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Posted : June 21, 2014 4:11 am
speee1dy
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alana, when people ask about crime they deserve an honest answer. i try very hard not to focus on the crime on this board but i will always tell the truth when it is mentioned. i do not exaggerate or focus solely on crime. i do not even remember who brought up crime in this post and i am not going to look. just know if someone has a question they deserve an answer that is truthful.

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Posted : June 21, 2014 11:38 am
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