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Lizard
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July 23, 2009 8:49 pm  

Oh Linda from Michigan,
If you are going to cite a case, maybe you should use the only plus derived from the case to support your cause. The court recognized medical necessity as a defense, against the prosecution of Federal law. Take your wins where you can get them. That would be the Gonzales v Raich.


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divinggirl
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July 23, 2009 8:53 pm  

Lizzard - you have made it abundantly clear that the answer you want is just simply "no". Well, as you can see (if you would open your mind long enough to read the information provided) it is not simply a yes or no question. It depends on if you are talking about a state or federal level and both have been explained in detail. I don't understand why you are determined to fight with people instead of having a mature discussion. Your personal jabs are getting in the way of adult exchanges of ideas and information.


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Lizard
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July 23, 2009 9:07 pm  

Linda from Michigan,
Since when is asking a question regarding the laws of the land become a personal lynch mob. Your unadulterated accusation doesn't help your cause. I expressed no opinion as to your cause pro or con. If asked I would tell you that I could care less if you, smoked it. ate it. drank it, or bathed in it. I didn't realize that islander passed the baton on this forum.


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Bombi
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July 23, 2009 9:15 pm  

Lizard in the recent past, although not stated the Feds are honoring states rights. Obama called off the feds in Cali and advised all Federal authorities to stop harassing and busting people on Federal Charges. That would support the idea of states rights becoming predominate. Soon Cannabis will be decriminalized on a Federal basis so the role of the Feds legislating our morality will diminish exponentially. Guess what , it is the 21 century, don't get left behind with your death grip on archaic ideals. If you are interested I have some polls that objectify the rapidly changing aditudes and perspective of the population.
STATES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ENFORCE FEDRAL LAW.


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Linda from Michigan
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July 23, 2009 9:22 pm  

Lizzard,
You are a very educated person as is reflected in some of your posts. However, I have seen many people reply to some of your posts in similar fashion as divinggirl - your posts tend to be threatening, accusatory, and you appear to be trying to pick a fight by calling people out. You point out people's flaws disregarding your own (Accusing Stiphy of misspelling, while in the same cutting response you misspelled does (you spelled it doe's). This is a small world and those of us on it should be kinder to our fellow world citizens. I don't believe you wish to be so cutting in your posts, but that is how it appears.

One love,
Linda

Lizzard - you have made it abundantly clear that the answer you want is just simply "no". Well, as you can see (if you would open your mind long enough to read the information provided) it is not simply a yes or no question. It depends on if you are talking about a state or federal level and both have been explained in detail. I don't understand why you are determined to fight with people instead of having a mature discussion. Your personal jabs are getting in the way of adult exchanges of ideas and information.


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Lizard
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July 23, 2009 9:47 pm  

Ladies,
Your cause is of no consequence to me, to ask a particular person a guestion and it becomes "Lynch mob or a Jab" . Maybe you shouldn't read my posts if they upset that much, please by all means don't respond.


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Bombi
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July 23, 2009 10:08 pm  

Ladies,
Your cause is of no consequence to me, to ask a particular person a guestion and it becomes "Lynch mob or a Jab" . Maybe you shouldn't read my posts if they upset that much, please by all means don't respond.

To be clear, I appreciate all points of view and opinions on this subject and have no problem with any of your posts. It is, however, ironic that you are so vocal of a cause which is no consequence to you. But don't let that slow you down.


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no0ne
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July 23, 2009 10:35 pm  

To be clear, I appreciate all points of view and opinions on this subject and have no problem with any of your posts. It is, however, ironic that you are so vocal of a cause which is no consequence to you. But don't let that slow you down.

You don't get it? It's a moral imperative dictated by his religion.

(I know you have a clue, sorry to be so rude)


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stiphy
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July 24, 2009 3:33 am  

LOL, I see a pattern forming here. Sometimes the kid in the sandbox who throw's sand makes things interesting, other times he just ends up playing by himself in the sandbox. I think many of us are losing interest which is a shame as the kid throwing sand could probably make things more interesting if he/she went about it with some tact.

Regards,

Sean


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Marty on STT
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July 24, 2009 1:26 pm  

I saw stick the f*cker's head in a HOLE in the sand!! Oh....wait....it's already there.....


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July 24, 2009 1:36 pm  

have you contacted the aclu to hear what they have to say about this,it would be a logical first step?


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Bombi
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July 24, 2009 6:11 pm  

Has this been posted before?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2544992/iPhone-application-lets-you-find-nearest-cannabis-dealer.html

I saw that and thought, Soon the VI will be listed.


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dntw8up
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July 24, 2009 9:45 pm  

From the facebook group "Virgin Islands Police Department Good News":

"Melody Rames wrote
at 5:01pm
Some people are sad in Estate Williams Delight on St. Croix!

Police busted an indoor marijuana cultivation operation Friday morning while executing a search warrant. Police arrested 33-year-old Cynthia Cruz also known as Cindy and 30-year-old Michael Gore and charged them with possession and cultivation of marijuana. More than 80 marijuana plants were confiscated. The "owners" had their operation hooked up with high tech lights, a/c system and everything you need to have a profitable weed growing home business. They were even “confiscating” WAPA power to meet the increased electricity needs of the little baby buds. Well, no telling how many "customers" have to go without their daily puff or have to put off practicing their "religion." I really feel for them - not!

Hey, I know times are tuff, but please people, find a legal part time gig, please."


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Bombi
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July 25, 2009 12:00 am  

Endorsement of medical cannabis by the National Academy of Sciences http://www.mpp.org/assets/pdfs/library/IOMreport.pdf

American College of Physicians endorses medical cannabis http://www.mpp.org/assets/pdfs/library/IOMreport.pdf and
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/524/american_college_physicians_medical_marijuana_policy_statement

American Nurses Association endorses medical cannabis http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=727

Abut 20+ more endorsements in support for medical cannabis http://www.safeaccessnow.org/section.php?id=344

New England Journal of Medicine http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/NEJM_Foolishness_013097.html

How about Newt Gingrich http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4397

The Science of Medical marijuana http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4397

DntW8up read all this and then say that again. In other discussions I admired your ability to add dimension to your position with valid, widely accepted information from authoritative sources. It seems you can't get past the old drug war propaganda and into the 21st century.
I know. Change is difficult for some. I don't intend to get you vexed.


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Bombi
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July 25, 2009 12:19 am  

And for all who are getting older... http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=4519

Aging and Medical Marijuana


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Uttica
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July 25, 2009 12:25 am  

Sorry DntW8up, Bombi has you up against a wall with all the .org's.

Forgot one website though...weedisillegal.commonsense


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Linda from Michigan
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July 25, 2009 12:44 am  

With luck the Federal laws will be changing in the future as well. HR 2835 started out June 11, 2009 with only 13 Cosponsors. HR 2943 began June 18, 2009 with only 4 Cosponsors.

H.R.2835
Title: To provide for the medical use of marijuana in accordance with the laws of the various States.
Sponsor: Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] (introduced 6/11/2009) Cosponsors (25)
Latest Major Action: 6/11/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

H.R.2943
Title: To eliminate most Federal penalties for possession of marijuana for personal use, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] (introduced 6/18/2009) Cosponsors (9)
Latest Major Action: 6/18/2009 Referred to House committee.


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no0ne
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July 25, 2009 1:29 am  

Interesting. One of my best friends has been growing fields of 1500 plants at a time down there, since at least 1987.


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Uttica
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July 25, 2009 1:43 am  

Interesting. One of my best friends can lick his own elbow, since 1986!


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Marty on STT
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July 25, 2009 1:45 am  

I saw stick the f*cker's head in a HOLE in the sand!! Oh....wait....it's already there.....

It has come to my attention that my post can be misunderstood...I was commenting on the child in the sandbox, NOT any of the posters to this thread.


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Bombi
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July 25, 2009 1:48 am  

Utica. I can't get your link to work. Is there a www or.something missing? No rush,we are going out. I'll check back tommorrow.


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Uttica
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July 25, 2009 2:35 am  

What good luck you have Bombi, you didn't go out tonight before me!!! I was able to respond to you before I went out!!!

It may be complicated for some, but there was no www.com or org.com. to my post. Sort of a COMMON SENSE that drugs are illegal.

I can spell out that drugs are illegal for you if need be.

Peace


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dntw8up
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July 25, 2009 2:49 am  

DntW8up read all this and then say that again. In other discussions I admired your ability to add dimension to your position with valid, widely accepted information from authoritative sources. It seems you can't get past the old drug war propaganda and into the 21st century. I know. Change is difficult for some. I don't intend to get you vexed.

What??? I'm simply sharing information I found about a proposal to tax marijuana in California and about a marijuana bust today on STX. And yeah, I get vexed when someone misrepresents my position, which I clearly stated on page 2 of this thread:

dntw8up said:

America has been fighting the war on drugs for over a quarter of a century, and our illicit drug problem has only been getting worse. I don't use any of these drugs, but I think they should be legally available to adults, just like alcohol. Making these drugs legal will virtually eliminate the criminal underworld associated with these drugs (as evidenced by the complete lack of criminal underworld in the alcohol arena), and young people will be less likely to view use of these drugs as a rebellious rite of passage (as evidenced by the lack of hordes of young people quaffing martinis or knocking back beer every evening.)

I think all drugs, including those that are currently illicit or only available by prescription, should be available to any adult to purchase at will, and adults should be held responsible for their drug procurement and use decisions. I think it is inappropriate for elected government bureaucrats, or my neighbors in voting booths, or expensive doctors, to dictate what I am and am not allowed to consume. If I want opinions from any of those people I will ask for them, and if I don't ask, they should not have any control over my consumption habits. If my habits infringe on the rights of others, then I should be punished for those infringements, but I resent other people assuming they know what's best for me, and limiting my freedoms to only those choices with which their values agree.


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Uttica
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July 25, 2009 2:52 am  

Sorry, that "Peace" was an off handed remark to somebody else, but love all the same.

Gotta go. Gotta meet somebody by 11:00.


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