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soccerrprp
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April 24, 2015 12:35 am  

The introduction of MJ may present itself as a gateway to trying other drugs for some. It is not something that is observed with any consistency as studies seem to show, but for some, it does.

Look, I'm not worried about most people. I'm worried about the small number of abusers/users/sellers, etc. How small I don't know, but, again, a careful discussion should be had before we decide on legalization via Recreational and/or medical.

I am concerned about the health and safety of users and non alike. That's all. Nothing antiquated about that.


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sttanon
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April 24, 2015 1:11 am  

I am all for the medicinal use of MJ. I question the legalization that would permit recreational use. Does one really believe that the legalization of MJ will make a significant dent on employment? Is that why people are considering the legalization of it?

There may be people already under the influence, but why make it easier/legal to obtain for everyone to be enticed? MJ is a dangerous substance that, again, its use affects not only the one using, but also affects those around the user.

I again would prefer to take this to the thread that I created regarding debate but o.k.

Dangerous substance hrmm .....

The DEA has Marijuana classified as a schedule 1 drug, so to give a list of substances that they consider LESS harmful here goes :

Cocaine
Oxycontin
Meth
Vicodin, Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien, Tramadol

Marijuana is listed as a Schedule 1 drug according to the DEA which is defined as :

"Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence".

Lets look at those with regards to "dangers" deaths and stats :

Death statistics in the United States for 2010. Pharmaceutical Opiates ( Vicodin,
Oxycontin, etc ) accounted for 16,651 deaths, or 45 people per day. Compare this to
Cannabis related deaths which were zero for the year

For Marijuana :

- LD-50 is the amount consumed of a substance to induce death in 50% of
laboratory animals
- Aspirin has a LD-50 of 1:20 or consumption of 40 aspirins . Valium’s LD-50 is
1:10.
- Cannabis has been reported to have a LD-50 of 1:20,0000- 1:40,000 or
20,000-40,000 times the amount contained in a average Cannabis cigarette.

To put it in quantified terms This would require a person to consume theoretically 1,500 pounds within a timeframe of 15 minutes to achieve a LD-50 concentration.

The enticement factor I would say is also a semi moot point. Marijuana is out there if people want it they can get it, I don't see where making it legal is going to make a huge difference, people are going to consume or not, those that are on the fence may try but are not going to automatically become "potheads" (I so hate that term). We have already had 2 presidents that admitted to pot use ( Obama and Clinton (smoked but didn't inhale give me a break)) and Bush Jr that did coke........ Ummmmm well....

I am going to take the rest of this to the debate thread where it belongs


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sttanon
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April 24, 2015 1:37 am  

Soccerrprp,

In giving constant rebuttal to you I apologize if it feels like I am picking on you and it isn't the intent....


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soccerrprp
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April 24, 2015 2:07 am  

@sttanon. No problem. I'm a father of 4 kids under the age of 11. Moving (likely) to a small island territory where many on here seem to have little confidence in the local government and where unemployment is relatively high. I have to look at this legalization of MJ and how it may impact my family, my children. I can't afford to do anything less. Safety, safety....

I'm good with the discussion as long as it doesn't become personal.


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Alana33
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April 24, 2015 2:12 am  

You go, girl!;)


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Spartygrad95
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April 24, 2015 2:15 am  

You go, girl!;)

Boy? Father of 4.

The idea of legalized marijuana creating a less safe environment than illicit drugs is more than a little confusing


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soccerrprp
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April 24, 2015 2:29 am  

The idea of legalized marijuana creating a less safe environment than illicit drugs is more than a little confusing

I can imagine that would be confusing, if so. I am concerned with all illicit drugs, including MJ. Not confusing to me.


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Alana33
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April 24, 2015 3:15 am  

Glitch.


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Spartygrad95
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April 24, 2015 8:29 am  

Legalization removes black market criminal aspect. Safer
Marijuana already being used now regulated stains. Safer


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April 24, 2015 10:11 am  

The introduction of MJ may present itself as a gateway to trying other drugs for some. It is not something that is observed with any consistency as studies seem to show, but for some, it does.

The reality is that there has never been any statistical data to support the stance that use of marijuana leads to use of and addiction to harder drugs. None. Over decades. What IS true statistically is that drug addicts for the most part have also smoked weed. This faulty analogy is akin to saying that everyone who drinks alcohol socially is likely to become alcohol-dependent which of course is one of the arguments used by the prohibitionists.


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CruzanIron
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April 24, 2015 3:31 pm  

Employers that require drug screening will still screen.

If people want to make themselves unemployable, it's their choice.


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Spartygrad95
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April 24, 2015 3:40 pm  

Employers that require drug screening will still screen.

If people want to make themselves unemployable, it's their choice.

(tu)


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TommySTX
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April 24, 2015 4:36 pm  

I definitely should have gotten some popcorn to read this thread. Haha.

I think a time machine for my brain would have been helpful too so I could understand the archaic thinking that still exists in our world.


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April 25, 2015 9:51 am  

http://m.virginislandsdailynews.com/news/denver-police-working-to-keep-tabs-on-fast-growing-marijuana-industry-1.1868833/blockquote >

One of many recent articles documenting exactly why the group from the VI went there.


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