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Love Dan Rather.

https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10157860188530716

Rathergate.

He's known for fake news.

 
Posted : December 10, 2016 11:01 pm
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Love Dan Rather.

https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10157860188530716

Rathergate.

He's known for fake news.

Sure thing. That's been hashed and re-hashed. Truth hurts sometimes. Mistakes, yes.

What the heck is fake news? Better called propaganda but that's a big word for the uninformed who slept through civics class.

 
Posted : December 10, 2016 11:32 pm
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So was Mittens correct about Russia?

Maybe Trump has a better reset button

 
Posted : December 10, 2016 11:34 pm
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Y'all have serious delusional tendencies and thinking if you believe this is a way forward and a presidency that will help you or anything else.
Good Grief.

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 12:51 am
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Y'all have serious delusional tendencies and thinking if you believe this is a way forward and a presidency that will help you or anything else.
Good Grief.

Unfortunately that's how we felt the last miserable 8 years of hope and change that never showed up. Only one person delusional here. Well more than one, but not naming names tonight. #MAGA

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 2:10 am
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Too me and obviously millions of others it was the only choice as compared to a pathetic alternative.
Some people are sick of the far left and the political correctness that has become our way of life.
I am certainly willing to give Donald Trump a chance to make our country the place that my family fought and died to defend over the past 250 years.
Who will do it next time?
The crying malcontents that weren't taught respect anything? The geniuses at the Ivy league schools?
I think maybe the crying should be kept to a dull roar and let's see what happens.
Plenty of people kept there mouth shut and patiently waited for an opportunity for change. Now it's here and their is nothing that the far left can do about it but cry.
What was it our first lady said?
"When they take the low road. We take the high road"
Yeah sure they do.

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 2:25 am
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I'm just looking forward to those two words coming in January...

Trump to Obama, "you're fired".

Well not really, his contract is up and the constitution prevents any renewal. Had he run for a third term he likely would have been re-elected.

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 2:37 am
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I'm just looking forward to those two words coming in January...

Trump to Obama, "you're fired".

Well not really, his contract is up and the constitution prevents any renewal. Had he run for a third term he likely would have been re-elected.

Actually there were some news organizations after the election predicting that Trump may have won even if Obama ran based on where his votes would have come from, but we'll never know now, will we

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 3:41 am
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I'm just looking forward to those two words coming in January...

Trump to Obama, "you're fired".

Well not really, his contract is up and the constitution prevents any renewal. Had he run for a third term he likely would have been re-elected.

Actually there were some news organizations after the election predicting that Trump may have won even if Obama ran based on where his votes would have come from, but we'll never know now, will we

Yeah, we'll ave to leave that to the history books to debate.

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 4:05 am
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Fact-Checking Site Proves Just How Good President Obama Has Been for America

Read more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-proves-just-good-president-obama-america/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

"He’s dramatically boosted our clean energy; moved us closer toward energy independence; presided over a half million jobs being created in the auto industry; massively reduced our deficits; has used diplomacy to make strides in the international community as opposed to just going to war; and we’ve seen the best period of job growth since the last time a Democrat lived in the White House. By the way, none of this includes the fact that he ordered the killing of Osama bin Ladin and we’ve seen stocks hit numerous record highs (proving trickle-down economics doesn’t work). So, when Republicans say that President Obama has been the “worst president in history,” they clearly don’t have a clue what the heck they’re talking about."

Read more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fact-checking-site-proves-just-good-president-obama-america/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 10:52 am
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Russian Interference Could Give Courts Legal Authority To Install Clinton(tu)

"As of December 9, Clinton has won the national popular vote by more than 2.8 million votes. According to Cook Political Report, the vote count has Clinton approaching 66 million votes, meaning the first female major-party nominee has already earned more votes than any other presidential candidate in history, second only to Barack Obama (the totals suggest she is on course to surpass the president’s 2012 count, as well)."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-interference-could-give-courts-legal-authority_us_584be136e4b0151082221b9c?

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 11:09 am
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Makes no difference Alana, I know that is what the Dems are sooooo hoping for, but it has already been determined by the Courts that the Electoral College is who determines the outcome of the election. If they try and decide otherwise, it will go to congress and how do you think that will go. But god bless you for hoping on a wing and a prayer.

I would have believed you were more concerned about the country as a whole than just wanting to break a glass ceiling and make history by installing the first woman president. But unfortunately your post suggest otherwise and is the concensus of most dems, which is a shame.

mike

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 11:45 am
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The only jobs that President Obama has created are part time jobs and that is mainly due to Obama care. I'm not opposed to helping to clean up the environment as long as it's done with people in mind and not just the bottom line, But this is not the case. Would you still be as concerned about the environment if you had to pay $10.00 for gas, told that you could only run electricity for a certain amount of hours a day due to regulations and generators would be illegal due to the pollution.

Unfortunately change is usually never a good thing and especially change that you personally don't want and it can be a bitter pill to swallow. But that is what us conservatives have had to do for the past 8 years. But this is a democracy which is what the liberals hate the most because you want a dictatorship and face the facts, if you could have gotten it with Obama, it would have been your utopia. But this is still America and democracy has spoken even though the results are contrary to what the liberals want.

mike

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 12:00 pm
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please dont quote from rolling stone. they are just not credible these days, what with that whole fake rape story

And here you have it.

Trump's Presidency Is Shaping Up to Be an American Tragedy
His administration is likely to be just as bad as you think – and possibly worse

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trumps-presidency-is-shaping-up-to-be-an-american-tragedy-w454640

No congratulations here from being sold a bill of goods from a snake oil salesman and his truly DEPLORABLE appointees.

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 12:23 pm
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That's not true, Mike.

Breaking the glass ceiling (and she did get more popular votes) would've been great and about time, I might add, but the only dictatorship I see is the one looming in the form of trump and his band of wall street cronies that he's chosen for his cabinet.

Every single person he's appointed is antithesis to the office they'll be heading.

You've got a thin skinned, petty man that can abide no criticism and has 3AM Twitter storm meltdowns against his perceived critics.
You'd have been all over anyone else, much less a president elect for these insufferable outbursts.

My god, if President Obama had done or said (lied) a quarter of the things this swamp denizen has, he'd never have gotten away with it. Obama had 8 years of criticism, racist attitudes and obstructionist behavior thrown in
his face but you didn't see him acting like a petulant spoiled brat.

There is so much, fundamentally wrong, with trumplethinskin and this whole incoming administration that it's frightening that he's duped so many.

There are issues here with his behavior, his conflicts of interest, his ignorance of constitutional law, just to name a few.
The fact that they've shut down a peaceful protest on the day of his inauguration is shameful and unconstitutional.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/women-marching-on-d-c-cant-access-lincoln-memorial.html

A rude awakening is coming for his supporters.
If I am wrong, I will be the 1st to admit it and apologize.
I would like to be wrong in this instance.

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 1:01 pm
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Where do you come up with this preposterous stuff?

The only jobs that President Obama has created are part time jobs and that is mainly due to Obama care. I'm not opposed to helping to clean up the environment as long as it's done with people in mind and not just the bottom line, But this is not the case. Would you still be as concerned about the environment if you had to pay $10.00 for gas, told that you could only run electricity for a certain amount of hours a day due to regulations and generators would be illegal due to the pollution.

Unfortunately change is usually never a good thing and especially change that you personally don't want and it can be a bitter pill to swallow. But that is what us conservatives have had to do for the past 8 years. But this is a democracy which is what the liberals hate the most because you want a dictatorship and face the facts, if you could have gotten it with Obama, it would have been your utopia. But this is still America and democracy has spoken even though the results are contrary to what the liberals want.

mike

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 5:03 pm
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Noted Right winger Glenn Greenwald exposes who really is responsible for fake news. PT Barum was right

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 6:15 pm
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So you believe a Jewish lawyer turned journalist who works for a publication funded exclusively by an Iranian oligarch immigrant who was born in France?

Don't you think Omidyar might have a bone to pick with the Washington Post since it is owned outright by Jeff Bezos? Do you think Ebay and Amazon are friends?

WikiLeaks? OMG

LMAO

Noted Right winger Glenn Greenwald exposes who really is responsible for fake news. PT Barum was right

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 6:25 pm
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(If I am wrong, I will be the 1st to admit it and apologize.) Alana, if I thought this statement were true and would wait and see if it happens, I hope it does and everything is going to be the Conservatives Utopia, but I doubt it will be, but if it comes close I will be happy. But if it does, I would be shocked, because I have never ever heard a liberal say they were wrong about anything and apologized for nothing. So this would be ground breaking in it's self. What usually happens is liberals will find fault with what ever Trump does and will never admit they were wrong because in their closed off mind will not be able to accept it.

But hey, this is what the right wingers have done for the past 8 years by not giving credit to Obama for anything. I give him credit for saving this Country from a great depression which is where we were heading thanks to the wars that Bush got us into and nearly if not possibly bankrupting this country to pay for. Obama has done the best he could do with what he was given and what his idealism would allow him to do. So even though I'm a conservative I still can give credit where it's do. I just wish and hope the dems can do the same.

mike

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 8:19 pm
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So you believe a Jewish lawyer turned journalist who works for a publication funded exclusively by an Iranian oligarch immigrant who was born in France?

Don't you think Omidyar might have a bone to pick with the Washington Post since it is owned outright by Jeff Bezos? Do you think Ebay and Amazon are friends?

WikiLeaks? OMG

LMAO

Noted Right winger Glenn Greenwald exposes who really is responsible for fake news. PT Barum was right

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/

Kind of odd you'd bring up that he's Jewish, not sure what that has to do with anything. You know who else had issues with Jews? Not saying, just saying

Your source skepticism is interesting. You seem only skeptical if it doesn't support the DNC. Hmmmmm.....

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 8:37 pm
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I only bring up Jewish lawyer as a descriptor that for many has negative connotation - aren't you from the upper Midwest? Greenwald also is gay and Ivy educated.

I don't understand what a discussion of journalism has to do with the DNC. If you mean that the bias was so pounding from the "main stream" media during the election it was disgusting - say that. Nonetheless, you can only imagine what you can imagine. That doesn't make stories from these publications fake, or propaganda, or untrue. It makes them biased.

HOWEVER, that doesn't excuse anyone from considering Breitbart and its drivel news - for god's sake - even Trump called it just a publication when queried by the NYT. Did the Trump campaign pay Breitbart to play during the election? I suspect that's true.

As with anything in our once great country, follow the money.

So you believe a Jewish lawyer turned journalist who works for a publication funded exclusively by an Iranian oligarch immigrant who was born in France?

Don't you think Omidyar might have a bone to pick with the Washington Post since it is owned outright by Jeff Bezos? Do you think Ebay and Amazon are friends?

WikiLeaks? OMG

LMAO

Noted Right winger Glenn Greenwald exposes who really is responsible for fake news. PT Barum was right

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/

Kind of odd you'd bring up that he's Jewish, not sure what that has to do with anything. You know who else had issues with Jews? Not saying, just saying

Your source skepticism is interesting. You seem only skeptical if it doesn't support the DNC. Hmmmmm.....

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 9:02 pm
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If they investigate and find that the Russian's hacked into the government computers and rigged the election in Trumps favor then it needs to be set right even if that means god fore bid the Coronation of Queen Hillary Clinton. I believe in fair play unlike the Dems giving debate questions to Queen to be Hillary BEFORE the debate. God bless weakie leaks because who would have known had they not been there to try and level the playing field. Lets face it, Trump had to fight everyone even his own party, you have to admire that.

mike

 
Posted : December 11, 2016 10:51 pm
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No, Mike, sorry but I simply cannot admire him for any reason.
NOT A SINGLE THING comes to mind.
Especially, the choices he's making that will adversely affect the USA and us in the VI, in the long run.

I don't think it's remotely fair that Clinton had close to 3 million more popular votes (2.7 MILLION to be exact, at this point) than trump and
the Electoral College gave him the win.

The republicans need to investigate the CIA report.
They spent Millions investigating Clinton, to no avail.
Turn about is fair play but they're not not known for that.
Had Clinton been elected and the CIA reported hacking to help her election they'd have been howling for an investigation and impeachment.
You know that's true.

 
Posted : December 12, 2016 11:46 am
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I don't think it's remotely fair that Clinton had close to 3 million more popular votes (2.7 MILLION to be exact, at this point) than trump and
the Electoral College gave him the win.

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

 
Posted : December 12, 2016 11:59 am
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