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mtdoramike
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OK, where is Alana, I'll bet she is losing her mind over this one. hahahahahahahaha.

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Posted : January 31, 2017 11:59 am
Alana33
(@Alana33)
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I don't find it funny nor do millions of others.
I find it exceedingly dangerous and you should, too.

If he really wants to "protect" America, why isn't Saudi Arabia and Egypt on the ban instead of countries where terrorists don't come from? I forgot. He has business ties in those countries that actually do train terrorists.

I think his actions are making America a larger, (I mean "yuge") target as well as a laughing stock. He is morally unprincipled and ethically challenged. He cannot handle the power given and is totally UNFIT to be potus.

I have friends that practice the Muslim faith. They are Americans.
They are hard working, intelligent, kind, lovely people.
They do not deserve to be treated with suspicion and disrespected. America is a land of immigrants. That's how this country was founded.
If you want to get technical, the only people who BELONG here are the Indians whom we continue to screw over.
WE ALL CAME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Trumplethinskin's mother and father were immigrants, most of his wives are.

"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."

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Posted : January 31, 2017 1:10 pm
LiquidFluoride
(@LiquidFluoride)
Noble Member

If he really wants to "protect" America, why isn't Saudi Arabia and Egypt on the ban instead of countries where terrorists don't come from?

Because Obama made the list, Trump didn't... hahaha

have friends that practice the Muslim faith. They are Americans.

Didn't read the bill did you?

"muslim" and "islam" was not mentioned ONCE... hahah

You fell for it again Alana, quit trusting TV 😉

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNu4xU9qOEM&t=2s

Here's the full text:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executive-order-nation-ban-refugees/

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : January 31, 2017 2:02 pm
Gumbo
(@Gumbo)
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He is doing as he promised and I'm good with that.

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Posted : January 31, 2017 3:33 pm
mtdoramike
(@mtdoramike)
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Me too, at least he is making some kind of attempt at stopping extremist from coming in, which is more than I can say for Germany, France and some of the other countries. I'll bet Canada hey is re-thinking their we'll take them all mentality after their little brush with extremist. They were fortunate for awhile, but me thinks it's their time now.

Evil will only triumph, when good people do nothing, when there is something to do, not just because a few who doesn't like something wants to change it for everyone.

mike

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Posted : January 31, 2017 5:51 pm
mtdoramike
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I just wished the left felt the same way about the people of this country and shed a few tears for all the dead folks at the hands of extremist and all the young people killed in Chicago as they do for foreigners who made their countries what they and rather than standing up and fighting and giving up THEIR lives for THEIR country, they tuck tail and head for the nearest border.

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Posted : January 31, 2017 5:57 pm
Scubadoo
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"It's not a travel ban it's a vetting system" even if POTUS says it is. And when he realizes the existing vetting system that takes two years to approve visas is already as extreme as it gets............

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Posted : February 1, 2017 12:11 am
Alana33
(@Alana33)
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Christian Leaders Denounce Trump’s Plan to Favor Christian Refugees

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/us/christian-leaders-denounce-trumps-plan-to-favor-christian-immigrants.html?_r=0&referer=https://m.facebook.com/

"And leaders of several refugee resettlement organizations said during interviews that it took 18 months to three years for most refugees to go through the vetting process to get into the United States."

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Posted : February 1, 2017 1:14 am
watruw8ing4
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Just a show to make his base think he's being tough on terrorism. If he really wanted to make an impact (other than stranding permanent residents around the globe), he would have been pushing concrete steps to combat home grown terrorism, where most of our terrorists come from, and internet recruitment . . . Instead, ISIS is celebrating and already using the ban as a recruiting tool, and we face alienating Muslims we rely on for intel.

It was recklessly written, without input from appropriate agencies, and it was implemented before there was a process in place, which caused chaos and confusion. It's highly doubtful it kept any "bad dudes" out. But there are still people in limbo, waiting to travel.

I'm not a conspiracy nut, but given the recklessness, and the administration's complete disregard for acknowledging the criticism (from Congress, the ambassadors, and the acting AG), the inference that this is actually a shock event makes sense.

Oh, and Mike, you really need to get out more and talk to some liberals. To presume we have no empathy towards victims of any atrocity, simply because we have differing opinions on cause and how to fix, is just plain ignorant. And I'd like to see how you would defend yourself when your attacker is heavily armed.

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Posted : February 1, 2017 2:33 am
LiquidFluoride
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(other than stranding permanent residents around the globe),.

Thats not happeing, read the text.

this is NOTHING NEW, the same 7 countries Obama restricted, and it has zero effect on "permanent residents"...

"fake news" is a real thing....

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : February 1, 2017 11:38 am
Alana33
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If he really wants to "protect" America, why isn't Saudi Arabia and Egypt on the ban instead of countries where terrorists don't come from? I forgot. He has business ties in those countries that actually do train terrorists.

"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."

REVEALED: Trump registered EIGHT new companies in Saudi Arabia during US election campaign

PRESIDENT-ELECT Donald Trump registered eight new companies in Saudi Arabia during his campaign to reach the White House, it has been revealed.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/736569/Donald-Trump-eight-companies-Saudi-Arabia-US-election-campaign

There are way too many conflicts of interest with this presidency.
Y'all would've been screaming your heads off if President Obama had done half the things this unfit xenophobic miscreant has done in just 11 days since taking the oath of office to protect and defend our constitution.

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Posted : February 1, 2017 3:25 pm
LiquidFluoride
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There are way too many conflicts of interest with this presidency.
Y'all would've been screaming your heads off if President Obama had done half the things this unfit xenophobic miscreant has done in just 11 days since taking the oath of office to protect and defend our constitution.

how is businesses in Saudi a conflict of interest?

We are pretty close allies with Saudi, if you haven't noticed, that mostly started with the LAST administration where Obama did all of those things, the "muslim ban" was just Obama's list used again.. Obama supported Saudi Arabia in attacking Yemen, and now we are still supporting Saudi..

Obama Faces a Growing Dilemma Over Saudi Ties
Lawmakers press the White House on weapons sales to the kingdom

its the same shit Alana, where have you been?

There was a [URL="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/abinazir/2011/06/15/what-are-chances-you-would-be-born/"]1: 400,000,000,000,000[/URL] chance of you being born: what have you done with your miraculous life today?

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Posted : February 1, 2017 6:00 pm
watruw8ing4
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(other than stranding permanent residents around the globe),.

Thats not happeing, read the text.

this is NOTHING NEW, the same 7 countries Obama restricted, and it has zero effect on "permanent residents"...

"fake news" is a real thing....

I read the text. Unfortunately, chaos happened with this EO's shotgun implementation and permanent residents WERE stranded.

This is absolutely new. Obama's restriction applied to Syria only, and it was triggered by an actual threat, not a made up, fear-mongering one. The 7 countries Obama identified, were part of a separate issue, not his "ban".

Real news is a real thing.

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Posted : February 1, 2017 11:02 pm
Gumbo
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If it weren't for Obama there would be no refugee crisis. The ludicrous foreign policy of the last 8 years has led this.

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Posted : February 2, 2017 12:42 am
Ca. Dreamers
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If it weren't for Obama there would be no refugee crisis. The ludicrous foreign policy of the last 8 years has led this.

Bingo!

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Posted : February 2, 2017 11:13 am
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