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(@Spartygrad95)
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Thought this was both funny and sad

John Oliver

Interested in opinions

 
Posted : March 9, 2015 11:26 pm
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Good segment.

After visiting USVI, I got really interested in the applicability of the U.S. Constitution to the U.S. territories. It's not just the voting rights that territory residents do not have, but also many other constitutional rights. For example, the "double jeopardy" protection does not apply to territories. That is, you can be tried for the same crime twice, once by the territorial courts, and then by the stateside court. Habeas Corpus does not apply in Puerto Rico. The protection from invasion does not apply to any territories. And most disturbingly, the 13th amendment to the U.S. constitution (abolishment of slavery) is not applicable to any U.S. territories, including the USVI.

Here is a very good document on the applicability of the U.S. constitution to the U.S. territories:
http://www.gao.gov/assets/220/214357.pdf

 
Posted : March 10, 2015 2:58 pm
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No one is interested in this discussion? I find it kind of funny that the residents of VI are starting endless discussion threads about how the price of bananas is 3 cents per pound less in one store vs another store, and yet no one seems to care about their constitutional rights while living in the "insula" land.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 2:35 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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I agree. Not just voting rights. We at least have it better here than American Somoa.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 3:01 pm
CruzanIron
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The subject has been beat to death and nothing will change.

Unless you can convince the US government to change the constitution to make us a Democracy and not longer be a Republic.

And that is not going to happen.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 9:50 pm
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The subject has been beat to death and nothing will change.

That may be true, but the subject of bananas selling at 3 cents cheaper at Pueblo compared to Plaza has been beat to death too, yet islanders never get tired talking about it.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 10:06 pm
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The subject has been beat to death and nothing will change.

That may be true, but the subject of bananas selling at 3 cents cheaper at Pueblo compared to Plaza has been beat to death too, yet islanders never get tired talking about it.

It never ceases to amaze me what topics take priority. Not on this message board per say, but in general. We live in a world that is more infatuated with the drug abuse of a celebrity than the equal constitutional rights of US territories.

To think a simple amendment could solve it all, but politicians can't be bothered with such things. They need to focus on reelection.

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 10:12 pm
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The subject has been beat to death and nothing will change.

Unless you can convince the US government to change the constitution to make us a Democracy and not longer be a Republic.

And that is not going to happen.

Imagine if the people had said that whole "separate but equal" has been beaten to death and nothing is going to change..

 
Posted : March 11, 2015 10:55 pm
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