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I'm so confused...'

and a little hungry

 
Posted : July 13, 2016 12:36 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW21P0BwnxQ

 
Posted : July 18, 2016 8:47 pm
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I was able to go Full Screen and Zoom in from 8:00-8:22, for the full effect of talking outta both sides of his mouth. Pretty good. A.K.A. talking out your ass.
Curious about da 9:00-9:25 spiel? "Now know about the Cosmos". But in all fairness,he does give Jesus a break on being an Old Dude.
Was that "Kool-Aid" (Aide) in his bottle on the podium??
Not sure if you remember, but could just be modern times, this guy dresses and has much better hair than Jim Jones or Jimmy Swaggart.
Got Evangelical ?

 
Posted : July 21, 2016 5:23 am
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1 1/4 cups cake flour
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1/4 teaspoon salt
1 1/2 cups egg whites

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1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
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Posted : July 21, 2016 10:08 am
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http://www.amazon.com/Burnt-Impressions-The-Jesus-Toaster/dp/B0042QRYO8

 
Posted : July 21, 2016 3:39 pm
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The Vatican is this morning facing a further crisis after routine DNA tests revealed that the communion wafers used in Sunday mass contain 0% of the body and blood of Christ.

http://newsthump.com/2013/03/03/vatican-reeling-as-dna-tests-show-communion-wafers-contain-0-christ/

 
Posted : July 21, 2016 3:49 pm
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The FDA is this morning facing a further crisis after routine DNA tests revealed that the Gerber's brand baby food contains 0% babies.

This follows on the heels of the recent finding that dog food contains only 12% dog meat.

 
Posted : July 21, 2016 5:38 pm
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The FDA is this morning facing a further crisis after routine DNA tests revealed that the Gerber's brand baby food contains 0% babies.

This follows on the heels of the recent finding that dog food contains only 12% dog meat.

Please post references!

 
Posted : July 21, 2016 8:39 pm
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Does anyone have any evidence which PROVES the existence of a god or gods?
How about an afterlife? Any kind of an afterlife whether it be heaven, hell, reincarnation, Valhalla, etc? Any evidence at all?

Is it all just fabricated fairy tales? Without requiring evidence, what is to prevent someone from simply inventing a religion? Oh wait, Scientology.

Does something being fabricated in antiquity make it real? Doesn't an ancient Holy Book simply show that people living in antiquity believed it, not that it is actually true? If an ancient Holy Book was real and inspired by the creator of the universe wouldn't you expect it to contain information not known to ancient peoples. You know, simple things like 1) The Earth is spherical. 2) The Sun is just like all those little lights except further away. Oh and by the way some of those little lights are like Earth (planets). You know, simple things that any creator of the universe would know.

Evidence, show me the evidence!

 
Posted : July 22, 2016 2:56 am
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I home schooled my son on an island at the end of the earth.He is now 25 and well adjusted adult living as a free thinking man in the US.Statistics say home schools do better on college admissions tests as did mine.Besides its a great way to spend time with them.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 3:41 am
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" Does anyone have any evidence which PROVES the existence of a god or gods?
How about an afterlife? Any kind of an afterlife whether it be heaven, hell, reincarnation, Valhalla, etc? Any evidence at all?

Is it all just fabricated fairy tales? Without requiring evidence, what is to prevent someone from simply inventing a religion? Oh wait, Scientology.

Does something being fabricated in antiquity make it real? Doesn't an ancient Holy Book simply show that people living in antiquity believed it, not that it is actually true? If an ancient Holy Book was real and inspired by the creator of the universe wouldn't you expect it to contain information not known to ancient peoples. You know, simple things like 1) The Earth is spherical. 2) The Sun is just like all those little lights except further away. Oh and by the way some of those little lights are like Earth (planets). You know, simple things that any creator of the universe would know.

Evidence, show me the evidence! "

Watch out. You might get what you ask for.
Maybe, "Satans Gift" ? "A mind is a terrible thing to waste".

Evidence? Show me the evidence !!!!

Edit to add:
"An Evidence based belief System" ??? Anybody? WTF are you talking about Willis?
Moderator(s), Get a Grip here, please. Try to at least understand these titles.

 
Posted : July 29, 2016 3:49 am
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"I home schooled my son on an island at the end of the earth.He is now 25 and well adjusted adult living as a free thinking man in the US.Statistics say home schools do better on college admissions tests as did mine.Besides its a great way to spend time with them."

Hey, congratulations to you!!! Always great to hear such heartwarming information,
not to mention being on topic.
Just curious,,, which Island, ("at the end of the Earth") were you on that Your Parents House had a basement?

 
Posted : July 29, 2016 5:29 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNtF1-Y-JJM

 
Posted : July 31, 2016 1:32 am
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And ???

 
Posted : August 3, 2016 3:04 am
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"Respecting". Seriously ?

 
Posted : August 3, 2016 5:37 am
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A repeat of the very first post in this thread. Religion deserves no respect!

Respecting the beliefs of others is a hot topic these days. The Muslim world seems to think that we must all respect their prophet and be careful what we say about him. They are going so far as to propose new rules in the United Nations that would limit free speech rights when it comes to religion. Should blasphemy be a crime?

Is this right? Should we be required to respect the beliefs of others or should we only be required to respect their right to have those beliefs? In my opinion people should be able to believe anything that they wish, however a belief is nothing more than an opinion and an opinion is something that is subject to questioning.

As an example. If you were to talk to an aboriginal person about their beliefs and they told you that they believe that the earth is a flat disc balanced on the back of a giant turtle, am I required to respect this opinion? This view of the world was widely held among native peoples. If I show them a picture of the earth from space am I engaging in hate speech?

What if they insist that the "Giant Turtle Theory" be taught in our public schools? If over half of the people in the country believe in the giant turtle, and they did at one point, are we all required to learn and respect the giant turtle theory?

How is this different from the "Biblical Creation Theory", the theory that the universe was created 6500 years ago in 6 days? Are we required to respect this theory and allow it to be taught in our public schools? How about the ancient alien theory, you see this theory being described on TV every week?

What level of proof or evidence should be required before an idea is accepted as something that should be respected? Are we required to respect all mythologies? Do the number of believers of a particular mythology determine the validity of a belief or is evidence required?

How do you bring about a change of "belief". When the Roman Empire switched from paganism to Christianity it was ushered in by force. The emperor declared that Christianity was the only true state religion and if you didn't like it well then off with your head! Religious/mythological beliefs have traditionally been spread by force. Look at Latin America. All good Catholics. But not until they were conquered by Spain and Portugal. Look at the Muslim world. All of North Africa conquered by the Muslims and forcefully converted to Islam.

Today we change peoples beliefs not by force but by logic. And not being able to examine beliefs and discuss them is a way of slowing down progress.

Blasphemy is a victimless crime!

 
Posted : August 4, 2016 12:59 am
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Today we change peoples beliefs not by force but by logic.
Huh ?
Got Internet Explorer 10 ?

 
Posted : August 10, 2016 3:53 am
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Today we change peoples beliefs not by force but by logic.
Huh ?
Got Internet Explorer 10 ?

this might help:

logic

noun
1.
reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
"experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic"
synonyms: reasoning, line of reasoning, rationale, argument, argumentation
"the logic of their argument"
2.
a system or set of principles underlying the arrangements of elements in a computer or electronic device so as to perform a specified task.

 
Posted : August 11, 2016 6:48 pm
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A repeat of the very first post in this thread. Religion deserves no respect!

Says who,? By who ? Horton hears a who. Got Fascism ?

Got IE 10 ?
Honestly, Got "Logic"?

Read the definition quoted, again, it might "Help". LMFBO !!!!

 
Posted : August 12, 2016 1:31 am
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A repeat of the very first post in this thread. Religion deserves no respect!

Says who,? By who ? Horton hears a who. Got Fascism ?

Got IE 10 ?
Honestly, Got "Logic"?

re·spect
noun
1.
a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Inquisition
Crusades
Suicide bombings
bigotry
support of the nazi party

I could go on.....

 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:08 am
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What evidence is there besides a book?
Every religion has their book. They can't all be true, but they can ALL be false.

 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:18 am
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A repeat of the very first post in this thread. Religion deserves no respect!

Says who,? By who ? Horton hears a who. Got Fascism ?

Got IE 10 ?
Honestly, Got "Logic"?

re·spect
noun
1.
a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Inquisition
Crusades
Suicide bombings
bigotry
support of the nazi party

I could go on.....

Whoopsie!! Here we go again!!

Try rereading the definition quoted.

Edit to Add:

 
Posted : August 12, 2016 2:29 am
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"What evidence is there besides a book? "

Goot question?

You tell me, and we'll both know. And I mean "Evidence" (Besides a Book).

 
Posted : August 12, 2016 4:06 am
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... The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them.

In general I find it painful that you claim a privileged position and try to defend it by two walls of pride, an external one as a man and an internal one as a Jew. As a man you claim, so to speak, a dispensation from causality otherwise accepted, as a Jew the priviliege of monotheism. But a limited causality is no longer a causality at all, as our wonderful Spinoza recognized with all incision, probably as the first one. And the animistic interpretations of the religions of nature are in principle not annulled by monopolisation. With such walls we can only attain a certain self-deception, but our moral efforts are not furthered by them. On the contrary.

Now that I have quite openly stated our differences in intellectual convictions it is still clear to me that we are quite close to each other in essential things, ie in our evalutations of human behaviour. What separates us are only intellectual 'props' and 'rationalisation' in Freud's language. Therefore I think that we would understand each other quite well if we talked about concrete things. With friendly thanks and best wishes

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/may/13/peopleinscience.religion

 
Posted : August 13, 2016 2:20 am
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Wow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgDvgzn37g8

 
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