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V.I. homicide rate still among world's highest

 
Alana33
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http://virginislandsdailynews.com/news/v-i-homicide-rate-still-among-world-s-highest-1.1434291

Frightening.............

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Topic starter Posted : January 25, 2013 12:21 pm
blu4u
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So sad on so many levels.

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Posted : January 25, 2013 3:07 pm
dbwilk
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This is what I meant in my why post. It does seem the daily news is trying to keep it in the forefront in hopes the VI legislature and police force will eventually get the point. He committed a crime he should do the time. Plain and simple. Get them off the streets period.

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Posted : January 25, 2013 3:07 pm
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In too many, if not all, of these killings, at the end, I think you're seeing that the use of marijuana is a factor in giving the courage or lessening the inhibition," Frazer said. "They may get upset, go home, start smoking and get a little high, and it lowers their inhibition and it gets their anger up more, and they say, 'Yeah, I really could do something about that. I'm going to do something about this.' And they go."

Dont know aobut that statement.....Back when I was doing the weed. The most ambitious thing I ever did was make french fries

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Posted : January 25, 2013 5:09 pm
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A gun free territory?

Get the guns out of the wrong hands and lock the sellers and dealers of illegal weapons up.
And throw away the key.

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Topic starter Posted : January 25, 2013 5:59 pm
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In too many, if not all, of these killings, at the end, I think you're seeing that the use of marijuana is a factor in giving the courage or lessening the inhibition," Frazer said. "They may get upset, go home, start smoking and get a little high, and it lowers their inhibition and it gets their anger up more, and they say, 'Yeah, I really could do something about that. I'm going to do something about this.' And they go."

Dont know aobut that statement.....Back when I was doing the weed. The most ambitious thing I ever did was make french fries

Wow, blatant propaganda.... That couldn't be further from the truth.

now if he had said alcohol I would agree....

A gun free territory?

Get the guns out of the wrong hands and lock the sellers and dealers of illegal weapons up.
And throw away the key.

it's been tried in the states, it just doesn't work.. when you ban "guns" you are really just banning personal protection.

Look at the statistics from Chicago & Washington DC... they have strict gun bans there and since the PASSING of the gun ban laws gun crime has increased a LOT..

All you really do when you restrict guns is stop law abiding citizens (the majority of us) from being able to protect themselves, people who commit crimes won't care about a gun ban anyway.

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Posted : January 25, 2013 7:45 pm
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I'm with jostvandog on this one. Weed definitely not at fault. Unless a deal gone bad. Put a bag of weed in room with 5 people they'll smoke and mellow out. Give another 5 a bottle of liquor and the odds of a fight breaking out will dramatically increase. No I don't advocate for the use of marijuana but, from my younger days experiences, I don't feel it will make someone want to fight or kill. As for guns in the wrong hands, yes that is a big problem no matter where you live.

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Posted : January 25, 2013 8:58 pm
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Seriously, do we need illegal assault rifles on the streets?
I think if there were not guns being sold, illegally, and put into the wrong hands there would be less deaths. No doubt about it.

As for the marijuana issue....who knows what it gets laced with these days?
There's all kinds of stuff out there these days, most of which I have never heard of before but then my drug knowledge is slim to none.

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Topic starter Posted : January 25, 2013 9:51 pm
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the bad guys always have the best guns because they do not have to adhere to the laws

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Posted : January 25, 2013 10:20 pm
LiquidFluoride
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Seriously, do we need illegal assault rifles on the streets?
I think if there were not guns being sold, illegally, and put into the wrong hands there would be less deaths. No doubt about it.

If that was possible, I'd agree. Since we can't even keep drugs out of prisons, we know it isnt possible.. Lets make it illegal for criminals and youths to have guns (this won't prevent it but it will give some pause and the law abiding citizens some recourse), but not responsible adults. Increase the penalty for the criminals and allow citizens to protect themselves. I'm with you there!

However, "assault rifles" is a political term created to cause confusion, there is no such thing as an "assault rifle" and if you notice, those are not "on the streets" or causing any issue what so ever in the VI, it's hand guns in criminals hands (the hand guns are illegal for the criminals already, what would more laws do?).

I support police but I also recognize that the majority of what they do is investigative "clean up" work, when you NEED them RIGHT NOW (being robbed, assaulted, shot at etc) they are usually 10+ min away, this is why we need to encourage people to learn how to become "hard targets" citizens that will stand up and defend themselves are NOT robbed or shot at, criminals in the majority are fearful people who take advantage of others only when they know they have an undefeatable (in their mind) position, AKA they have a gun and you don't, change this zeitgeist and you will see a steep drop in random robbery and murder (again, statistically proven).

Look up the statistics on the 1990's "assault rifle ban" and see what that did for gun crime... Zero.

As for the marijuana issue....who knows what it gets laced with these days?
There's all kinds of stuff out there these days, most of which I have never heard of before but then my drug knowledge is slim to none.

Luckily we can predict the "black market" (where drugs are sold) pretty easily, it is done for profit, and that's about it's only motivation. Lacing Cannabis with any other substance will significantly cut into profit, if anything the substance is generally "cut" (aka diluted) with another inert (non active) substance, which creates more profit.

So you see, the "mystery laced" Cannabis is just not a plausible theory.

DISCLAIMER: I worked with Counter-Drug for years up here in Alaska & this is where the majority of my knowledge and experience comes from, I may be biased a bit to the law enforcement side, but since my career is not based in it I don't think it is too heavily biased.

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Posted : January 25, 2013 11:23 pm
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Frazer identified the wrong drug. This one is a much more likely candidate:

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1101/110110christiansted.htm

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1202/120228stcroix.htm

http://virginislandsdailynews.com/news/authorities-seize-29-million-worth-of-cocaine-in-waters-south-of-st-croix-1.1425266

The fella that goes home and starts smoking pot is a threat to a bag of Doritos

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Posted : January 26, 2013 12:53 pm
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In too many, if not all, of these killings, at the end, I think you're seeing that the use of marijuana is a factor in giving the courage or lessening the inhibition," Frazer said. "They may get upset, go home, start smoking and get a little high, and it lowers their inhibition and it gets their anger up more, and they say, 'Yeah, I really could do something about that. I'm going to do something about this.' And they go."

Dont know aobut that statement.....Back when I was doing the weed. The most ambitious thing I ever did was make french fries

didn't know reefer madness was at the cinemas at sunny isle recently:Spray no one jumps out of a window after inhaling:S

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Posted : January 29, 2013 3:36 am
noOne
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Reefer Madness at youtube

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Posted : January 29, 2013 4:07 am
lily1025
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thanks No One! for a moment i thought maybe i was having a "violent halluciation" that the film even exsisted8-)

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Posted : January 30, 2013 2:38 am
Native Son
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There have been zero homicides on St. Croix for the month of January (as of 3:00 p.m. today, January 31st).

St. Thomas recorded one homicide for the month of January...to date.

Zero homicides for the territory would have been much better.

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Posted : January 31, 2013 7:15 pm
Alana33
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I think the STT count just went up.
http://stthomassource.com/content/news/police/2013/01/29/one-man-shot-another-robbed-separate-incidents

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Topic starter Posted : January 31, 2013 8:19 pm
rotorhead
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I think the STT count just went up.
http://stthomassource.com/content/news/police/2013/01/29/one-man-shot-another-robbed-separate-incidents/blockquote >

The article doesn't mention a homicide.

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Posted : January 31, 2013 9:34 pm
speee1dy
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i could have sworn there were two in one week on stt

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Posted : February 1, 2013 11:58 am
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