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singlefin
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What was I thinking?
That idea was just shear craziness.

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Topic starter Posted : September 13, 2016 8:06 pm
OldTart
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What was I thinking?
That idea was just shear craziness.

It was a fair enough question and I think you got good answers as well as some historical perspective.

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Posted : September 13, 2016 8:18 pm
Spartygrad95
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From what I saw of stateside bikers they think they can go wherever they want anyway and have a complete disregard for traffic laws. Nothing a door jam wouldn't solve though.

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Posted : September 13, 2016 8:18 pm
singlefin
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I was being sarcastic...

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Topic starter Posted : September 13, 2016 8:33 pm
stxisbest
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So the government is going to have to buy 4 ft. of land on both sides of the road for the entire bike path. Where is that money to survey, document every map, pay for the land (which will have to be seized using eminent domain laws in many cases) and refencing for many going to come from. Not even talking about the paving cost yet.

Also, once you take 4' away from everyone's property, you are forcing a violation of law that states that you cannot build within 15 feet of your property boundary.

Given our governments inability to do anything complicated (Look at how long it took to do the bypass) I will bet that a bike path will never happen.

(tu) (tu)

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Posted : September 13, 2016 10:22 pm
MayaN
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"I'm just surprised bike paths, along some of the most scenic roads in the world, have never been considered."

ME TOO. As a very health-oriented person who's considering moving to one of the islands, I was disappointed to discover (mostly by watching YouTube video tours of roads, neighborhoods, etc) that biking (or even just walking to wherever you need/want to go), doesn't seem to be very popular or practical or even possible in the USVI, at least not from what I've gathered so far. This is not a deal breaker for me, but it did fly in the face of what I fantasized "island life" would be like... I guess I pictured it like living in pedestrian heaven... much like bobbing around San Luis Obispo/Avila Beach, CA, except surrounded by the Caribbean!... oh yes, I pictured at least a few paved or carefully maintained dirt trails through thick green nature, dedicated solely to walking and biking to points of interest, no motorists allowed... I thought the USVI would surely cater to avid pedestrians and bike riders!... and then my alarm clock went off. 😀

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Posted : September 13, 2016 11:09 pm
Alana33
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Ha!

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Posted : September 13, 2016 11:21 pm
Spartygrad95
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Ha!

Is there a full moon? Why am I finding myself agreeing with and liking your posts?

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Posted : September 13, 2016 11:42 pm
rmb2830
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There was a nonprofit corp called Cruzan Bikeways that worked for 6 to 8 years to get a bikepath constructed from Hovensa out to Point Udall. It was supported by the Gov't and private groups, and I seem to recall it had almost everything in place to begin its construction around 2010 or 2011.
Don't know what actually happened to end the project, although since Hovensa was a supporter/grant provider etc perhaps it was partly because of the refinery closing. They were even going to get federal funds to pay for part of the construction costs, and had permits, and easements and a whole plan worked out...It was projected to become a really big deal, and the first bikepath in the caribbean, with a big tourist attraction element too.

Perhaps someone else would know what happened to end it all. Many of us were really looking forward to it.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 1:06 am
OldTart
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There was a nonprofit corp called Cruzan Bikeways that worked for 6 to 8 years to get a bikepath constructed from Hovensa out to Point Udall. It was supported by the Gov't and private groups, and I seem to recall it had almost everything in place to begin its construction around 2010 or 2011.

Starting with post #4 on this thread which linked to their proposal I made a few later comments about the proposal and the company in subsequent posts. I sometimes wonder if posts operate on faulty batteries and are only intermittently visible to the naked eye.:P

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Posted : September 14, 2016 1:42 am
Alana33
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There was a bike company that offered biking out on Peterborg a few years ago here on STT. They didn't last long.

Heck, we hardly have sidewalks.
I could see more bike paths available on STX due to its size and flatter terrain, not so much for STT or STJ, except in a couple of very small areas.

Any way you look at it, it won't be happening any time soon, if ever.
Moot subject.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 2:28 am
singlefin
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This post was originally all about the possibility of a bike path in STX, not STJ or STT.
Let me run this by you this way.
If the Federal Government offered to pay for the repaving of miles of roadway, if an environmently freindly bike path was added to ONE side of the road, would you all still be against it?

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Topic starter Posted : September 14, 2016 9:18 am
OldTart
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This post was originally all about the possibility of a bike path in STX, not STJ or STT.
Let me run this by you this way.
If the Federal Government offered to pay for the repaving of miles of roadway, if an environmently freindly bike path was added to ONE side of the road, would you all still be against it?

In your first post you did ask about STT.

In answer to the question, I can't speak for STX but the question is moot where STT is concerned for reasons already stated.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 9:23 am
singlefin
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"For reasons already stated"
Again and again and again...

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Topic starter Posted : September 14, 2016 9:37 am
OldTart
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"For reasons already stated"
Again and again and again...

Not sure why you're so irritated by your questions being answered.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 9:52 am
CruzanIron
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If the Federal Government offered to pay for the repaving of miles of roadway, if an environmently freindly bike path was added to ONE side of the road, would you all still be against it?

I don't believe one single post was AGAINST a bike path, so no on can STILL be against one.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 10:20 am
vicanuck
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Perhaps someone else would know what happened to end it all. Many of us were really looking forward to it.

Mapp happened...he doesn't have kids, doesn't ride a bike (obviously) and saw no need for it.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 11:01 am
OldTart
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Perhaps someone else would know what happened to end it all. Many of us were really looking forward to it.

Mapp happened...he doesn't have kids, doesn't ride a bike (obviously) and saw no need for it.

The proposal was submitted in 2005 with a projected start date of 2010, WAY before his time.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 11:16 am
Alana33
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This post was originally all about the possibility of a bike path in STX, not STJ or STT.
Let me run this by you this way.
If the Federal Government offered to pay for the repaving of miles of roadway, if an environmently freindly bike path was added to ONE side of the road, would you all still be against it?

I don't believe anyone was against it.
I'm not.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 11:48 am
Exit Zero
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When I am in the States for months at a time I have a few bikes at that house and ride everyday - it is flat coastal land with some bike paths - I am certainly not against the idea - it just isn't a feasible plan on STT or STJ - I wish you success for sure on establishing some bike lanes on STX and hope your hard work there on this project comes to fruition in your lifetime.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 12:25 pm
Alana33
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Nicely said, Exit Zero.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 12:40 pm
Spartygrad95
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I'm all for bike lanes if it costs me zero and bikers stay in them.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 6:17 pm
ms411
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Where does the Freedom City tour on St Croix go? You can ride bikes all day long on Water Island off St Thomas. Kids who live there ride their bikes quite a bit from what I've seen.

People do ride on STT on the flat sections in town from Havensight to the airport.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 6:22 pm
Courtney
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There's a group of 10-15 people who ride on South Shore on Christiansted. They have a truck or car follow them at like 10 miles an hour. Very difficult to get around them and they dont care if they back up traffic. Drives me nuts.

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Posted : September 14, 2016 7:16 pm
singlefin
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Another good reason for a shoulder/bike lane.
BTW,
I'm not part of that group... but maybe I should be?

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Topic starter Posted : September 15, 2016 9:14 am
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