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DonExodus
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I was wondering how public access to beaches applies to people with disabilities. I am unable to complete the strenuous walk to mermaids chair etc at botany bay due to a knee condition. Guards don't seem interested in letting my in via vehicle, yet walking is also out of the question. Is there any provision in the beach access laws for people with disabilities?

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Topic starter Posted : November 5, 2012 11:00 pm
Alana33
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Not according to Botany Bay or rules. You come in, you park in the access area and you walk or hike to where ever you want to go.
They do not need to provide you with access or transportation, including your own other than that or you have a boat and come in from the ocean side.

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Posted : November 5, 2012 11:04 pm
Linda J
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No, there is no governmental responsibility to provide additional access

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Posted : November 5, 2012 11:36 pm
OldTart
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No legal provision at all at any beaches in the USVI. Sapphire is pretty easily accessible and Magens has a handicapped access ramp across the sand, while both Magens and Secret Harbour have a beach wheelchair on hand.

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Posted : November 5, 2012 11:39 pm
Alana33
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If you are on STJ, Trunk Bay provides access.
Call the National Park for more info!8-)

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Posted : November 6, 2012 11:46 am
VIsnorkeler
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Even if you were allowed to drive to the parking area of Mermaid's Chair, you'd still have a strenuous walk to be able to truly enjoy it. Stairs, a rock scramble, a trail, another rock scramble and a climb!

This makes me so sad for you that you can't visit. I tell everyone who asks me that the difficult round-trip hike is completely worth it!

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Posted : November 6, 2012 1:22 pm
DonExodus
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Hmm, you just think they would make an exception for a resident willing to show ID with a visible handicap...

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Topic starter Posted : November 6, 2012 9:23 pm
OldTart
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Hmm, you just think they would make an exception for a resident willing to show ID with a visible handicap...

Even if you were allowed to drive to the lot, what sort of other exception do you think the owners should make to get you to Mermaid's Chair from there? How would you suggest they further accommodate you where, "stairs, a rock scramble, a trail, another rock scramble and a climb" are concerned? If this particular site is on your "must do/see" itinerary then you should probably charter a boat and go in by sea.

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Posted : November 6, 2012 9:56 pm
DonExodus
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Even if you were allowed to drive to the lot, what sort of other exception do you think the owners should make to get you to Mermaid's Chair from there? How would you suggest they further accommodate you where, "stairs, a rock scramble, a trail, another rock scramble and a climb" are concerned? If this particular site is on your "must do/see" itinerary then you should probably charter a boat and go in by sea.

Wouldnt need anything else- I can walk over rocks, down stairs, etc- just not downhill.

The distinction is providing new infrastructure. I would never dream of raising the issue if there wasnt an existing road and parking lot. I would never demand anyone make such a road, etc- but the fact that its already there...and not being used... and people are allowed to walk down there anyways (non-restricted beach) make it one of those "come on...." scenarios.

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Topic starter Posted : November 6, 2012 10:25 pm
Linda J
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Where disability is concerned, things are rarely simple. I have no visable disability, but I would never be able to make this trek. How does the property owner decide who is "disabled" and who is not? Opening the access to cars is a very slippery slope.

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Posted : November 6, 2012 10:37 pm
OldTart
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Wouldnt need anything else- I can walk over rocks, down stairs, etc- just not downhill.

If the description of the access from the parking lot is as VIsnorkeler describes with a "climb" then that to me denotes a hill and what goes up comes down.

Again, you can go in by boat - or you can easily go to the countless other beaches on STT which are very easily accessible given your limitations. I do exactly the same myself at this stage of the game when my mobility is considerably more impaired than it was when I was younger. The property owner hasn't refused access to the beach but the mere fact that the hike to it may be difficult for some doesn't mean that they have to make exceptions for someone unable to make that hike nor allow vehicles to use their private road and parking area.

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Posted : November 6, 2012 11:22 pm
VIsnorkeler
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I wear hiking boots for the walk after you reach the parking area and would advise anyone thinking of going to do the same! I've been several times. I am in good health and lead a very active lifestyle. Let me tell you, the next day or two afterwards, I am sore as hell! It would be nice if they'd let you drive to the parking area instead of making us walk the whole way, but the reward at the end makes the trek worth it. There's nowhere else like that place. And sunset out there...no words describe.

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Posted : November 7, 2012 1:47 am
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