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Uttica
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Hey chockman:

I don't think I could stand by and watch a person harm another person

You don't think? Shouldn't this be instinctual to you? I need to check you're credentials if you claim to be a fed for 20 years.

Trade
Animals have no voice. People do. How a society treats its animals shows in how they treat their families & children. It starts there.

AMEN

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Posted : December 3, 2009 1:09 am
chockman
(@chockman)
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Uttica, I may make an exception for you tuff guy. I can also hold a grudge and make damn sure I look the other way. Sometimes a person just needs to learn when to shut up.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 2:07 am
Justin
(@Justin)
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Anything that we are not prepared to defend is something we are prepared to lose. Be that our property, our family, or our lives. We can't be everywhere. So we gather as a community and rely on each other. That is our power. Without citizens who are willing to stand up for the safety of their community such as Phil and Pieta we would all be much easier targets. I am grateful for their actions and wish Pieta a speedy recovery.

Does anyone realistically believe the fear of police protects them from criminals? What stops someone from strolling into our homes, having their way with us, and taking our possessions? Police do not reside at our homes. They must respond to a call. Who phones in that call when we are subdued by an assailant? When we're being attacked we can't afford to wait for even one minute for the police to arrive. Our communities are our first line of defense when we can not handle a situation on our own. Consider this when preparing greetings to members such a chockman. I personally would welcome him into my community.

If we are mugged at gun-point then handing our valuables over to protect our lives seems like the best choice. I know that no item or sum of money is worth my life. But there is an ideal that we sacrifice in this exchange. By making ourselves an easy and cooperative target we encourage this activity. Crime is systemic. I'm not suggesting we all risk our lives. But, we must make it as difficult as we possibly can for those who choose to threaten our peace. The only way to eradicate this form of crime is to band together as a community and resist.

St. Croix is my home, my community, my island. I am willing to lay my life on the line to protect this community and I will not hesitate to take the life of anyone who threatens it's safety. Whether you agree with the ethical morality or not I'm sure you can see the value provided.

Note: I am not suggesting that crime is a life or death issue. Every situation is unique. If a situation can be handled in a non-violent manner it certainly should be.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 2:28 am
chockman
(@chockman)
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Thank you Justin. I believe it could not be said any better. The fact that a person may have a weapon near by,does not always mean you would be able to get to it. Only a fool thinks he can handle every situation every time. Your statement about the Community banding together to protect each other is one that has been on my mind for quite sometime.

As Bob Marley once sang "Power to the people " . Never abuse the power.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 4:15 am
Uttica
(@Uttica)
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Hey, I support what you are saying but I really doubt you are a Fed. A Fed would not make statements that you make.

I don't think I could stand by and watch a person harm another person.

I can also hold a grudge and make damn sure I look the other way.

Only a fool thinks he can handle every situation every time.

What agency are you with?

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Posted : December 3, 2009 9:18 am
chockman
(@chockman)
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If you are on Island you may find out. There are quite few Fed agencies out there. I could care less as to what you do for a living. I stand by my statement of Only a fool thinks he can handle every situation that pops up. You may doubt me all you like,but you are the one beginning to sound like a fool or a Fed that is so full of Pride he has fooled himself into believing he is truly a bad ass.

I am not a Saint or a bad ass.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 12:27 pm
margaritagirl
(@margaritagirl)
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Hi Chockman,
I just wanted you to know that I was not the one that was beaten and almost killed.
I just posted the info. that I received from STX Crime Watch.
I hear she is doing well, which is great news.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 3:06 pm
Lizard
(@Lizard)
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According to the Papers he was arrested (actor), except he wasn't charged with attempted murder.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 3:12 pm
DUN
 DUN
(@DUN)
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According to the Papers he was arrested (actor), except he wasn't charged with attempted murder.

Must have relatives here....or was Leon Kendall the judge?

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Posted : December 3, 2009 9:59 pm
chockman
(@chockman)
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Sorry Margarita Girl. My eyes sometimes read faster than my brain.

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Posted : December 3, 2009 11:32 pm
Marty on STT
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Chock, I'd like to buy you a drink! (tu) You handle trolls much better than I! Haha!

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Posted : December 5, 2009 7:00 pm
chockman
(@chockman)
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We are going to St Croix. We did wonder what Sam's club looked like on St Thomas ? We thought we could check it out a couple of times a year. I will be on a kind of working vacation sometime in Feb for a couple of weeks. I want to find out what it will take to set up accounts with the local food and liquor,restaurant vendors on St Croix. I wonder what the bulk food looks like at Sam's ?

I would really like to try and have as much licensing business and red tape finished as soon as possible,before our permanent arrival. I will keep it small and manageable,if it grows,all the better,we can always relocate a good business on Island.

The wife will be looking for bookkeeping / Accounting type work. She has years of experience . She is interested in Captain Morgans new place,so I guess we better get there this year.

The temperature drooped 30 / 40 degrees overnight,add in the wind chill factor and it =,s. I am not doing another winter in the Continent. I have always said retirement does not exist for me and I miss working my butt off like I used to.

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Posted : December 5, 2009 7:19 pm
Marty on STT
(@Marty_on_STT)
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Who is Sam and where's his Club??

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Posted : December 5, 2009 7:25 pm
chockman
(@chockman)
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I thought there was a Sam's club on St Thomas ? Big wholesale place,courtesy of Wallmart.

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Posted : December 5, 2009 8:17 pm
dntw8up
(@dntw8up)
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Nope, we don't have a Sam's Club on STT.

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Posted : December 5, 2009 8:41 pm
Exit Zero
(@exit-zero)
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We have a costuless - and a pricesmart on STT - some bulk items , many not bulk - no membership fee at CUL $10yr I think? at PRsmart. No Walmart, 2 Kmarts small and large, 1 Home Depot - I don't know about STX for these - but building a Home Despot there now.

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Posted : December 5, 2009 9:47 pm
DUN
 DUN
(@DUN)
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I`d love a Walmart super center here!
The kind with all the food!
Do the %10 over stateside like Radio Shack does, or even the %20 over like Office Max does!

Still, the incident described by Margarita Girl was a heinous crime, too bad we don`t have Capital punishment here as (I think most would agree, I`m also sure some won`t) that such a person cannot be rehabilitated & just isn`t worth any time or $ to prove otherwise!

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Posted : December 5, 2009 9:48 pm
chockman
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Sad fact about rehabilitation but very true. Lust look at all the Sex offenders that get out of jail here on the Continent,they tend to Rape or kill again,no rehab for someone who can't operate in a normal society.

I looked Sam's Club here on the board,it was a posting I had seen in the past about possible mail order. Thanks for the correction.

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Posted : December 5, 2009 10:50 pm
dntw8up
(@dntw8up)
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Sad fact about rehabilitation but very true. Lust look at all the Sex offenders that get out of jail here on the Continent,they tend to Rape or kill again,no rehab for someone who can't operate in a normal society.

I have no empathy for sex offenders, but your remark about their rate of recidivism is inaccurate:

...Research shows that sex offenders generally have far lower recidivism rates than the general prison population: A U.S. Justice Department study last year found only 5 percent of sex offenders had re-offended after three years. By comparison, a state Department of Corrections study earlier this year put the recidivism rate for its general inmate population at about 60 percent after three years...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/07/12/MNG6F7K0UF1.DTL#ixzz0YrZ9eMWk

U.S. Justice Department study mentioned in above quote: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/rsorp94.pdf

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Posted : December 5, 2009 11:27 pm
chockman
(@chockman)
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Well I stand corrected. I have to wonder about the study though,it was Gov sanctioned . We doctor the numbers all the time or change the requirement whatever fits best at a particular time. Look at the global warming issues now, I guess it just depends what path you choose to follow. We do not need to mess the Earth and Oceans up any worse than they are, but we don't need Cap and Trade either. I will check out the article you posted,Thanks.

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Posted : December 6, 2009 12:06 am
speee1dy
(@speee1dy)
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chockman, CATS are people too. there have been studies done that say the majority of serial killers were abusive to animals first. animals children and the elderly need our help before we help those who are able to help themselves.

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Posted : December 11, 2009 4:45 pm
Linda J
(@Linda_J)
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Sorry speed, but cats are not people. I think this attitude - pets are as important as people - is just as screwed up as those who think animals are nothing. I believe we should be good stewards of the earth and it's resources.

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Posted : December 11, 2009 5:01 pm
chockman
(@chockman)
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Did I say ? Abuse cats. I even scratch their furry little heads. They are even good at being little mousers,but they are not bringing their litter boxes in my house.

I have to agree with Linda,our beloved pets are not people. I will do what I can for my pets and have spent thousands on them but you have to draw a line somewhere. Sorry Speee1dy but we as people will always be on top of the food chain.

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Posted : December 12, 2009 4:12 am
speee1dy
(@speee1dy)
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i guess a little funning with you guys does not work. yes i love my pets and yes i know they are not people. i guess you two just skipped the rest of what i said
chockman i never said you abused animals.

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Posted : December 16, 2009 6:28 pm
Lizard
(@Lizard)
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Hey Speedy1dy,
Pets may not be people "Thank God" we can count on there loyalty, love and bonds they make with us!

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Posted : December 16, 2009 6:35 pm
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