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Hello,

I'm a Canadian resident who is trying to figure out what will be required to move to St Thomas with a US citizen girl. Does anyone have any suggestions where to find information on this? Does St Thonas use the same immigration laws as the mainland states?

Thanks in advance!

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 2:12 am
 br1k
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(USVI) St. Thomas is part of United States, certainly for the purposes of immigration law. As such, you would need the same thing you'd need to have to move elsewhere in US. You can easily enter as a tourist, but legally staying long term is a whole another matter (though it may be easier for Canadian citizens than others, but only just so).

Marry her, get a "green card" 🙂 🙂 🙂

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 2:55 am
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You can enter the US with just your Canadian passport without a visa(that includes the US Virgin Islands) you can stay as long as you want but you can't work without a work visa. You said you were a Canadian Resident (You must be a Canadian Citizen). Contact the American Consulate closet to you or google for the exact information. If you leave Canada for 6 months you will lose your
Govt Hosp benefits.*-)

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 3:46 am
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Always go to the SOURCE. Here it is the immigration department.

billd

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 5:03 pm
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Well as I said in my previous post contact the nearest American Consulate. There is no immigration department in Canada. One must go to the closet embassy or consulate offices in Canada. The Immigration Department falls under the US Dept of State' There are different rules for Canadian Citizens so I have posted their Web site for ya.:D

http://travel.state.gov/visa.temp/without/without_1260html

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 5:45 pm
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Hey Lizard! Are there skeletons in the closet embassy? 😛

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 8:52 pm
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:@) I never said i could spell, although Mark Twain once said he didn't trust a man that could spell a word the same way twice:P

 
Posted : January 2, 2010 10:18 pm
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A lot of sayings have been attributed to Mark Twain.
"Those that can do and those that can't teach", being one. ( I am a teacher by the way:))
Anyone else know any!!!

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 1:22 am
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As a Canadian Citizen you may enter the United States "and assuming you have no other status" it would be as a "B2" or tourist. You may legally stay for up to six months. If you stay for over Six months you would be considered an over stay and would be subject to deportation. Legally, you can depart the United States and re-enter for another six month period after that, however you must be able to prove your solvency in Canada or your entry would be refused. It is an area in which a lot of people use to live here in the United States while not technically violating the law. However, its very easy for CBP to determine your intent and if your intent is to live in the United States you will be refused entry. PM me if you ahave any questions.

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 8:23 am
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Jay,
B2 is a visa and Canadians do not need a visa to enter the USA. There is no 6 month time frame for a Canadian Citizen. As I said before check with the closet (:$) closest Consulate). Different rules for Canadians!

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 10:26 am
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And in any case, you will not be allowed to work without a green card or special authorization.

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 10:35 am
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Lizard: I was just messin with ya, meh son. I just had this vision of a teeny tiny embassy when I read that!

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 1:32 pm
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East Ender,
Me overstand!

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 2:57 pm
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Lizard, you are incorrect. It is true that a Canadian does not need a B2 visa to enter the United States, however they are found to be admissible, they would be admitted as a b2 if the purpose of their visit is tourism. If upon application for admission to the United States it is discovered that the intent is to establish residence, they are inadmissible, while they do not need to physically acquire a vise, they are subject to the same rules under the INA..
In the case of a Canadian citizen entering as a tourist and, lets say he or she gets married to a United States Citizen "incidental to the trip", he or she may apply for an adjustment of status. However, it must be determined that the marriage was "incidental to the trip" and not planned prior.

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 7:07 pm
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Jay,
Not to make a career of this thread, the State Department does not require a Canadian to make an application or treat a Canadian as a B2 tourist. There is NO 6 month rule for a Canadian. A Canadian only has to have the means and proof to self support while in the USA. I make no assumptions on hypothetical cases. You can google this topic all you want and not find what you state to be correct. The best advise anyone can give this poster asking the question is speak to the State Department and follow their instructions. BTW there is no written application for admission to the USA by a Canadian Citizen. The Boarder patrol might ask what's your purpose upon entry to the USA (verbal), and one of the acceptable answers would be shop till I drop! No Time table. Upon a return to Canada the Boarder patrol might ask how long have you been in the USA and did you work, that's where the proof of self support comes into play.:D

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 8:31 pm
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Ok, first of all....An "application" is not written. The legal term for an individual who desires to enter the United States is "Applicant for admission". B0nkers, I will post the CBP quote stating your requirements for entry to the United States and again, if you have any questions just PM me and i will get you what you need. There are consequenses to a non citizen with no legal status in the United States establishing residense here. I am sure, if you have entered the United States in the past you already know this.... Anyway, here is the quote........

The burden of proof that the Canadian citizen is not an intended immigrant (plans to make the U.S. their primary residence) is always on the applicant. There is no set period of time Canadians must wait to reenter the U.S. after the end of their stay, but if it appears to the CBP Officer that the person applying for entry is spending more time over-all in the U.S. than in Canada, it will be up to the traveler to prove to the officer that they are not de-facto U.S. residents. One of the ways to do this is demonstrate significant ties to their home country, including proof of employment, residency, etc.

Now, let me go put in my overtime ticket.....$$$$$

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 8:53 pm
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Jay.
That statement is for"reentry" read it again. I like the words "but if it appears"!:-o Again Call the State Department:@)

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 9:09 pm
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Lizard, you seem to be misinformed. B0nkers, if you believe him, just tell the CBP Officer you are coming here to live and see what happens......Lizard, you are gonna get me a bad review from my boss......To think after all these years of my job......I have been wrong all along!!!
Ok, that was mean....What it says is that if you can't prove you are a resident of your home country, you ain't coming in! Re-entry, first entry, you must prove solvency in your home country, if requested by the CBP Officer.
I would have posted it directly from the Inspector's Field Manuel, but I do not want to end up like those TSA guys who posted their manuel on line.....Oh, and State does not enforce Immigration law.....CBP, CIS and ICE do.:-o

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 9:21 pm
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Jay.
Bonkers doesn't have to believe anything I said, My advice was to call the State department. BTW maybe you should get a bad review, beause you are sure giving some bad information on this thread.:P

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 10:24 pm
 jay
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Ok, you are right as always.....But Again, B0nkers, if you want accurate info, PM me...

 
Posted : January 3, 2010 11:02 pm
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Lizard,

It was actually Andrew Jackson who made the remark "It is a damn poor mind which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word." sorry.

Pamela

 
Posted : January 5, 2010 12:56 am
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Pamela,
Actually it was Mark Twain that said "I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way" I'M sorry for my big blunder next time I'll have my law clerk research it. Since you have a lot of time you can look it up at:

www.gala.com/Quotes/7198/1-donand-39t-give-a-damn-for-a/by-mark twain

 
Posted : January 5, 2010 2:59 am
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