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captbill
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September 24, 2017 9:15 am  

Is VI Cargo or Paradise Cargo running yet post Maria?


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Gumbo
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September 24, 2017 10:26 am  

I heard that VI Cargo will open monday on STT


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Scubadoo
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September 24, 2017 12:47 pm  

I'm hearing VI Cargo STX is operating but is using Tropical's facility next door due to a nasty Maria fire in their building. I saw this posted somewhere, I forget where. I'll be calling them tomorrow morning. There is a VI Cargo on STT?


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Scubadoo
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September 25, 2017 7:07 pm  

VI cargo is open/operating on STX, ship is sailing this week, however they are sharing Tropical's facility in Christensted.


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COLDER
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September 27, 2017 4:25 pm  

I spoke to VI in Miami yesterday and YES they are taking LCL shipments to STX
So if anyone has people on the mainland that would like to help out, they can us VI Cargo to get the goods to STX.
Anyone hear if Customs has waved any fees for imports to STX ?


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ironheadUSVI
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September 27, 2017 5:18 pm  

Paradise Cargo is also accepting LCL/LTL cargo.


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NorthsideKevin
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September 27, 2017 5:25 pm  

Any thoughts on who is least expensive for shipping a center console boat, a vehicle and/or a 20 or 40' container? I got $8950 out of New England on a 40'er, $6950 for a 20'er and $2500 on a vehicle all into STT. Add $3,000 per container if you want to make the fast boat out of FL. All from Bluewater. Or Blue Ocean I guess.


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NorthsideKevin
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September 28, 2017 9:51 am  

Can anybody direct one to the least expensive container and vehicle shipping?


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NorthsideKevin
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September 29, 2017 11:35 am  

Trying again. Here's the thing: container shipping costs might actually go down with the suspension of the Jones Act. I know, I know, there's a lot of pundits out there that claim it does nothing, but the political pressure to suspend caused it to go away yesterday. It was suspended for the continental U.S. when Harvey hit Texas. It took some wrangling, and arguments, to have it suspended again relative to PR and the VI. Nobody seems to really know the ramifications. The CEO of Crowley spoke out against it before it was lifted. I have to wonder if there will be some temporary relief in shipping costs through international competition. Or if it really makes no difference as the pundits keep parroting.


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COLDER
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September 29, 2017 12:09 pm  

Yes, we may see a decrease in ocean rates, but I would not hold my breath
After 40 years in the logistics business the only time I have seen rates drop is when there is a imbalance in empty vs loaded containers in the carriers lanes.
What I do not understand about PR is that after all this relief has arrived at their ports, why they can not get the cans moved inland.
Heard on the news it was do to lack of drivers.
Out of 3 + mil people you would think there would be plenty of truck drivers.
Plus with all the military personnel, there should be enough drivers
Something else going on there ??.


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ironheadUSVI
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September 29, 2017 12:47 pm  

What I do not understand about PR is that after all this relief has arrived at their ports, why they can not get the cans moved inland.
Heard on the news it was do to lack of drivers.
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The union president would not allow non union truck drivers into the Port.


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ironheadUSVI
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September 29, 2017 12:50 pm  

Trying again. Here's the thing: container shipping costs might actually go down with the suspension of the Jones Act. I know, I know, there's a lot of pundits out there that claim it does nothing, but the political pressure to suspend caused it to go away yesterday. It was suspended for the continental U.S. when Harvey hit Texas. It took some wrangling, and arguments, to have it suspended again relative to PR and the VI. Nobody seems to really know the ramifications. The CEO of Crowley spoke out against it before it was lifted. I have to wonder if there will be some temporary relief in shipping costs through international competition. Or if it really makes no difference as the pundits keep parroting.

Think about this. By the time any large company that ships containers or RORO cargo moves its' ships, establishes a Caribbean operation, sets up local agents and actually accepts cargo to ship, the immediate crisis is over. Crowley and the other established carriers were begging for cargo to fill their ships prior to the storm.


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COLDER
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September 29, 2017 1:04 pm  

The union side does make sense
I dealt with the Longshoreman slow down on the US West coast a few years ago.
I can only guess how many millions / billion of dollars that cost US business


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Scubadoo
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September 29, 2017 3:35 pm  

Trying again. Here's the thing: container shipping costs might actually go down with the suspension of the Jones Act. I know, I know, there's a lot of pundits out there that claim it does nothing, but the political pressure to suspend caused it to go away yesterday. It was suspended for the continental U.S. when Harvey hit Texas. It took some wrangling, and arguments, to have it suspended again relative to PR and the VI. Nobody seems to really know the ramifications. The CEO of Crowley spoke out against it before it was lifted. I have to wonder if there will be some temporary relief in shipping costs through international competition. Or if it really makes no difference as the pundits keep parroting.

Think about this. By the time any large company that ships containers or RORO cargo moves its' ships, establishes a Caribbean operation, sets up local agents and actually accepts cargo to ship, the immediate crisis is over. Crowley and the other established carriers were begging for cargo to fill their ships prior to the storm.

Lifting the Jones act for 10 days won't help PR. As has been reported they have a lot of containers in port that need to be distributed. Lifting the Jones act for a longer term to support the recovery/rebuild process may be beneficial.


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