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(@ms411)
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Can we please just not have a commemoration? The committee has not developed a budget and is requesting over a million to fund whatever they have in mind, which has not been published.

There's an article in today's Daily News that once again says Dept of Interior is granting $500,000. That figure is not on the list of grants awarded to VI (there is a grant awarded to UVI for a lesser amount) and I have questioned one Daily News reporter about the source of that figure. The reporter wasn't sure and never responded to my email inquiry.

Two senators are on the commission. Sen Myron Jackson on St Thomas (who, I think, sponsored the legislation for the centennial plate fee assessment) and Sen Sanes. After seeing how poorly managed this commission is, why should these senators be re-elected? The others involved are not elected officials.

The article didn't mention our delegate who is asking congress to appropriate funds. Please. Enough is enough. Unless they can show confirmed bookings, scrap the centennial ceremony. We can't afford it.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:38 am
(@Spartygrad95)
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Some of the best partying one can do is when you know the party is over soon. Bring on the rum!!

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:43 am
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Sounds like an awesome party!

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 1:44 am
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The money's not being spent on the party.
It's being wasted paying all the sycophants and their cronies.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 3:14 am
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The money's not being spent on the party.
It's being wasted paying all the sycophants and their cronies.

Parties take planning. Where do I sign up for the $90k job as executive director btw?

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 3:39 am
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Here's a list of how the money is being spent.
It's a ripoff:

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1246153875395024&id=100000012694067&set=a.780845741925842.1073741826.100000012694067&comment_id=1246161445394267&notif_t=feed_comment_reply&notif_id=1471529623133541&ref=m_notif

Wow...that's a lot of pork for a celebration very few care about.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 11:06 am
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Wow...that's a lot of pork for a celebration very few care about.

Speak for yourself.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 11:08 am
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They could fund the animal shelters instead of funding the centennial commemoration.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 11:14 am
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I'm sure they are spending the Federal $500K wisely.

https://plaskett.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/plaskett-s-centennial-commission-bill-passes-house

Sycophant is one of my favorite words.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 11:34 am
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I can't find confirmation that the feds are giving VI $500,000. The Department of Interior granted UVI approx $250,000 to do self-determination studies, which is posted on DOI site, but only local sources are saying we received $500,000.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 11:44 am
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Thanks. That was announced last year, and I did a search for 2016. What a waste of money.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:00 pm
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They could fund the animal shelters instead of funding the centennial commemoration.

(tu)(tu)

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:10 pm
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I offered to volunteer on the committee and was told "no thanks"

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:16 pm
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Thanks. That was announced last year, and I did a search for 2016. What a waste of money.

It's a matching grant - with the VI required to raise $500K over two years as well. The money (both grant and match) is tightly bound in how it can be used as are all Federal funds such as this. You can't buy limos with this money or feed people at parties. But you can hire your friends and families. Nonetheless, you have to do what was proposed.

So if you follow the VI 2017 budget, $275,000 of these Centennial funds are still available (grant and match). A lot of cash has already been burned with little result.

I'd love to see the grant documentation.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:17 pm
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They could fund the animal shelters instead of funding the centennial commemoration.

If the Humane Society of STT kept up with annual membership drives and dues and only 1/8 of the STT population (6250) joined at $30 per person pa, annual revenue would be $187,500. I'm willing to wager that the annual membership for the last many years has been around 200 or less.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:24 pm
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Wow! I think I actually heard oinking sounds coming out of my speakers. Very lucrative "celebration" for the well-connected.

PS: That had better be one bada$$ web site for that kind of money.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:29 pm
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They could fund the animal shelters instead of funding the centennial commemoration.

If the Humane Society of STT kept up with annual membership drives and dues and only 1/8 of the STT population (6250) joined at $30 per person pa, annual revenue would be $187,500. I'm willing to wager that the annual membership for the last many years has been around 200 or less.

Animal control is traditionally a government function, as it provides for the health and safety of citizens. It should be funded appropriately by the government. That frees up the animal welfare organizations to operate as shelters, find homes for animals, fund low-cost spay/neuter programs, and educate residents on responsible and humane treatment of the animals (which, in turn, would reduce animal control costs).

Can't speak for STT, but on STX, many people here give far in excess of $30 a year to support animal welfare, not to mention many many free hours. And they spend considerable hours fund-raising just to get what little they've got. A membership drive, with an automated renewal, would help a lot. But would never cover the costs for animal welfare AND animal control.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 12:48 pm
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1. Animal control is traditionally a government function, as it provides for the health and safety of citizens. It should be funded appropriately by the government.

2. A membership drive, with an automated renewal, would help a lot. But would never cover the costs for animal welfare AND animal control.

1. And if that doesn't materialize, you keep up the drive but also help yourself.
2. The membership figures I quoted were minimum and, combined with the ongoing (and expansion) of fundraising events and solicitation of endowments, trusts and grants, yes it would.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 1:06 pm
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1. Animal control is traditionally a government function, as it provides for the health and safety of citizens. It should be funded appropriately by the government.

2. A membership drive, with an automated renewal, would help a lot. But would never cover the costs for animal welfare AND animal control.

1. And if that doesn't materialize, you keep up the drive but also help yourself.
2. The membership figures I quoted were minimum and, combined with the ongoing (and expansion) of fundraising events and solicitation of endowments, trusts and grants, yes it would.

1. And let the government off the hook for yet another responsibility?
2. As I said, I can't speak for STT, but do you know how many fund-raising events STX already has for animal welfare? And how much of that is powered by volunteers? Substantial expansion of this leaves me LMAO.

Anyway, I see I've fallen into thread creep again. So, I'll just leave it at that. Last word is all yours.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 1:26 pm
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IMO, they would have done better to turn over the centennial planning to the Carnival Committee who at least have experience in planning a celebration.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 1:35 pm
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1. And let the government off the hook for yet another responsibility?
2. As I said, I can't speak for STT, but do you know how many fund-raising events STX already has for animal welfare? And how much of that is powered by volunteers? Substantial expansion of this leaves me LMAO.

1. I did not say that, viz "And if that doesn't materialize, you keep up the drive but also help yourself."

2. And, as I said, " ... and solicitation of endowments, trusts and grants ..."

Maybe you could take the time to embrace a train of thought (and it IS based on experience) without immediately taking every opportunity to dismissively jump on everything to which my name is attached.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 1:40 pm
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http://www.stcroixawc.org/wp-content/uploads/2015-annual-report-SCAWC-final-sm.pdf

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2014/670/254/2014-670254280-0c0b217d-9.pdf

STX Animal Welfare Center 2015 annual report shows a profit though would need another $75-100K annually to function without government support. With expense cuts and increased fundraising that could be possible.

Humane Society of STT spends way more money each year than STX AWC handling about the same number of animals. Much more difficult to sustain current operations without government funds.

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 1:47 pm
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1. And let the government off the hook for yet another responsibility?
2. As I said, I can't speak for STT, but do you know how many fund-raising events STX already has for animal welfare? And how much of that is powered by volunteers? Substantial expansion of this leaves me LMAO.

1. I did not say that, viz "And if that doesn't materialize, you keep up the drive but also help yourself."

2. And, as I said, " ... and solicitation of endowments, trusts and grants ..."

Maybe you could take the time to embrace a train of thought (and it IS based on experience) without immediately taking every opportunity to dismissively jump on everything to which my name is attached.

Every opportunity? Actually, I make it a point to rarely respond to your posts, because you nearly always end up in a condescending attack mode with me, as you just did, and cherry picking, as you also did. I let myself get sucked in . . . . again. My bad.

OK, now you have the last word. Go!

 
Posted : August 19, 2016 2:00 pm
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