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East End Doug
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I have been hearing that some of the old Hovensa workers are being recalled to the plant with Exon as the new owner. Anyone know what's going on?

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Topic starter Posted : February 6, 2014 11:27 pm
terry
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Have the heard same thing and it will be officially announced in March

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Posted : February 6, 2014 11:57 pm
Alana33
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Another great polluting plant with not such a hot record with EPA,
Good Luck, y'all!

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:13 am
LiquidFluoride
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Sounds like great news, Exxon has deep pockets; maybe they can clean up that mess and bring some economic prosperity to the island

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:16 am
JulieKay
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Sounds like great news, Exxon has deep pockets; maybe they can clean up that mess and bring some economic prosperity to the island

Ooooh, fingers crossed!

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:24 am
JulieKay
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I have also heard there is supposed to be an announcement before Easter. I had not heard a name yet though.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:25 am
speee1dy
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now that would be great

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Posted : February 7, 2014 1:03 am
AandA2VI
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Wow hopefully that happens for y'all STXers! Would be FANTASTIC of they'd clean it up! Good luck!

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Posted : February 7, 2014 3:37 am
CruzanIron
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There sure are a lot of wishful thinkers posting here.

Before any company spends a penny on a purchase they are going to make sure that they have an agreement with the government that they can live with. That means the Legislature will be involved. When you buy a house, you investigate price, taxes, insurance and fees before you put down the cash. A large corporation will do the same thing. There has been no secret sale made. The agreement with the government is that they would be directly involved with the sale. You all know that. The news is that Lazard just reached out to potential buyers last week. Do you really think they sold it that fast? Do you think Lazard was hired when a sale had already been made?

Wishful thinking seems to outweigh logic in this case.

And there are two x's in Exxon.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 10:26 am
sunshinefun
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I've heard lots of talk too, but like CruzanIron, I'll not be holding my breath.

The GVI has a well established history of scaring potential away.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 11:55 am
vasecs
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I would think the first announcement will be a interested corporation will sign a LOI(Letter of Intent) which establishes interest in property. A long row to hoe before actual transfer of ownership. Can you imagine the Liability issues that must be resolved, legislative issues, EPA compliance........whew! makes my head ache and this is BEFORE Chucky starts her idiot rants! Where has that mouth piece been hiding?

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:24 pm
Alana33
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Why is it such a good thing for STX to have a company with a history of polluting the environment buy Hovensa.
Are you all so desparate? Hopefully, just another rumor.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:34 pm
CruzanIron
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Because we need jobs.

The cost of horse and whale meat has been increasing steadily and is harder to afford on my meager salary.

I can't even afford to take my kids to Sea World any more.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:38 pm
Alana33
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"Good ting" as Brownie would say.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:42 pm
JulieKay
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Because we need jobs.

The cost of horse and whale meat has been increasing steadily and is harder to afford on my meager salary.

I can't even afford to take my kids to Sea World any more.

LOL!! I needed a laugh this morning. Good one.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:44 pm
speee1dy
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that was funny. and you are correct. the island needs jobs. we do not rely on the tourist industry as much as stt does.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:45 pm
Alana33
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But to the point where you are willing to risk your health and the environment?

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:53 pm
CruzanIron
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Have you had the emissions checked on your car(s) recently?

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:58 pm
LiquidFluoride
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But to the point where you are willing to risk your health and the environment?

as a former long term Alaskan, I'll tell you this: Exxon has done some bad, but over all they are a pretty damn responsible company. With today's standards and monitoring ability they won't be "Loose and fast" with the environment.

I'd say the risk is very low and vastly outweighed by the benefits.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 12:59 pm
JulieKay
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But to the point where you are willing to risk your health and the environment?

Better someone fix it up and clean it up than leave it as a rotting, festering, leaking hulk...which oh, by the way, it is now.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 1:12 pm
CruzanIron
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So Julie, tell us more about your last tour inside the facility?
You express a knowledge that deserves to be shared.
Where was this leaking that you observed?

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Posted : February 7, 2014 1:28 pm
JulieKay
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So Julie, tell us more about your last tour inside the facility?
You express a knowledge that deserves to be shared.
Where was this leaking that you observed?

I'm going off of the reports of groundwater contamination. No need to get defensive.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 1:30 pm
margaritagirl
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It will bring jobs for the island and statesiders if they open back up.
Look how many businesses that have closed since Hovensa closed down.
The businesses that have stayed open are struggling to make it work. We don't have that many tourist.
Look at how many houses are on the market from people having to leave. It's so sad.
I really hope they reopen soon.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 1:43 pm
CruzanIron
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Julie, how old are those reports? It's not fair to report on one side only
and make no mention of the actions that were taken to stop the leaks.
Yes, there were leaks. They were stopped. Aquafer clean up continues.

From the EPA:

since 1994 has been implementing a recurring program of pressure testing, and repair or replacement of all underground process sewers and hydrocarbon pipelines, as well a recurring program of internal inspection and testing of all hydrocarbon storage tanks at the facility, in order to prevent future underground releases.

A major facility-wide Interim Corrective Measure (ICM), referred to as the "Hydrocarbon Recovery Project" (HRP), is on-going, under requirements of the facility’s RCRA permit. Based on the most recent semi-annual corrective action status report (February 2012), through December 31, 2011 a cumulative total of 43.212 million gallons of PSPH have been recovered from the groundwater under HOVENSA and recycled back into the facility's process stream. This represents a recovery of an estimated 99% of the PSPH which was indicated to have been released to the groundwater, through slow leaks and other release over time, from storage and process areas, as well as the underground “oily-water” sewer system. Based on the most current estimates made by HOVENSA (as of December 31, 2011), only approximately 306,000 gallons of recoverable PSPH still remain on the groundwater underlying the facility.

HOVENSA has acceptably demonstrated to EPA, by groundwater modeling studies and monitoring well data, that the hydrocarbon recovery system maintains hydraulic control along the boundaries of the facility, and prevents off-site migration of not only underground oil, but also any dissolved constituent plumes in the groundwater itself. The hydraulic control is continuously maintained and monitored.

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Posted : February 7, 2014 1:50 pm
JulieKay
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CruzanIron, if you want to debate the condition of the refinery, start a new thread...or else head to the Think Tank on Facebook - they love to debate this topic there. I won't be participating in an argument though. 😉

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