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longhorn
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The VI Consortium is reporting that the son of the owner of lower love was kidnapped, held for ransom and then murdered.

Not the news that we want to start the holiday season, but just be careful.

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Topic starter Posted : November 24, 2014 11:32 am
Alana33
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That's horrendous!
Condolences to the family.

I hope that can catch the perpetrators.
Jail's to good for the likes of anyone that would do such a terrible thing.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 11:50 am
vicanuck
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This was not reported in The Avis this morning, only that the owner was shot and injured during a robbery.

However, I have come to believe that the VI Consortium is a filthy sensationalist rag with zero credibility so I don't really trust anything they "report".

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Posted : November 24, 2014 12:16 pm
longhorn
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I think this happened on Sunday afternoon after the Sunday/Monday had run, which is one benefit an online publication has. I also think the Consortium reporters may have an inside lead to information, moreso than the source. I agree that the Consortium sensationalizes "news", but just based on the article as reported, I don't think this is a random act of violence, based on how the victim's wife responded without involving the police. Also a few years ago, another son of Lower Love was savagely murdered, when his vehicle was run off the road and he was shot multiple times.

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Topic starter Posted : November 24, 2014 12:32 pm
CruzanIron
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This was not reported in The Avis this morning, only that the owner was shot and injured during a robbery.

However, I have come to believe that the VI Consortium is a filthy sensationalist rag with zero credibility so I don't really trust anything they "report".

The Sunday/Monday Avis is printed Saturday night, so an event that occurred on Sunday afternoon won't appear until Tuesday.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 12:34 pm
Optimist
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I hope this does not become a gun control argument but is it difficult for the average non criminal to acquire a licensed firearm in the USVI?

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Posted : November 24, 2014 12:47 pm
vicanuck
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I'm for Open Carry in the USVI. Everyone should be carrying a weapon here, and know how to use it.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 1:20 pm
speee1dy
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i heard this at work this morning. he was held for ransom and when they could not come up with all of the money he was killed and burned him in a car. -what is going around at work

condolences to the family

and why are legal law abiding citizens NOT allowed to protect themselves?

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Posted : November 24, 2014 1:21 pm
JahRustyFerrari
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i heard this at work this morning. he was held for ransom and when they could not come up with all of the money he was killed and burned him in a car. -what is going around at work

condolences to the family

and why are legal law abiding citizens NOT allowed to protect themselves?

Anyone who dares to dig very deep will find that these things are connected...i.e. your concern about the proliferation of firearms on the island and this "kidnapping"...ask yourself which group has the resources to bring large amounts of firearms into the territory.
This incident involved a specific amount of cash, and was hidden from law enforcement. Just the tip of the iceberg.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 1:35 pm
Optimist
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I was thinking about the guy that was murdered on STJ last week He was renting a house in isolated Privateer Bay. The killer left with the victims wallet and watch. If he'd had a gun he might have survived.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 1:41 pm
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I was thinking about the guy that was murdered on STJ last week He was renting a house in isolated Privateer Bay. The killer left with the victims wallet and watch. If he'd had a gun he might have survived.

And there's a whole long and involved story behind that - way more than is apparent from a news article.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 3:05 pm
Optimist
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Hi OT. I had read that he was involved in some insurance schemes and was also
being sued by an investment firm to the tune of $80 million for some kind of finance fraud. It occurred to me that might have something to do with it.

It seemed strange that only the guy's wallet and watch were taken and the place was not ransacked for loot.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 3:57 pm
OldTart
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It seemed strange that only the guy's wallet and watch were taken and the place was not ransacked for loot.

Possibly because the aim of the night time visit was not to steal and the theft was just a red herring ...

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Posted : November 24, 2014 5:43 pm
LiquidFluoride
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I hope this does not become a gun control argument but is it difficult for the average non criminal to acquire a licensed firearm in the USVI?

Almost impossible, and for that reason we have a very high gun crime rate since it's very easy to buy a firearm illegally and you KNOW 95% of the population is a helpless victim.

I'm for Open Carry in the USVI. Everyone should be carrying a weapon here, and know how to use it.

absolutely.

An Armed society is a polite society.

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Posted : November 24, 2014 6:38 pm
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