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simkiss
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i'm trying to find the cheapest route for my inlaws to get to st. john from france. if you use the flight websites, they take you paris>mainland>st.thomas. the price is something like $2,000 or so, and 15-25 hours. however, i see that they can fly directly to the french caribbean (st. martin, guadeloupe, etc.) for $800 in 8 hours.

what i cannot find anywhere are flights from any french island to any american island. there are plenty of airlines such as liat that will fly any other combination. is there a reason that you cannot fly between an american and a french island? is there some little-known airline that flies these routes? it'd be a shame if they have to fly to miami, atlanta, or philadelphia when they can fly directly to the caribbean. any clue?

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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 12:40 am
simkiss
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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 12:50 am
Trade
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LIAT flies from the Dutch side of St. Martin to STT. The main airport on St. Martin is on the Dutch side. They could go on AA to San Juan & then STT.

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Posted : April 6, 2008 12:50 am
simkiss
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haha! it works! coolest. well, that's me. :o) LOL

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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 12:51 am
simkiss
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i was wondering that. i guess they can just cross the border in st. martin, then. still odd that there's no american-french connections. is that a result of freedom fries or has it always been like that *wink* ?

it's too bad because they'll miss the connection in st. Martaan. so they'll have to stay overnight i guess.

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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 1:00 am
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In June, on AA for $1109.00 pp:

American Airlines
Flight 121 Departs: 5:50p
Ch. De Gaulle (CDG) Arrives: 8:00p
John F Kennedy Intl (JFK)
Coach | Aircraft: 763 | 8h 10m
[ Layover in New York, NY (JFK) for 12h 00m ]
American Airlines
Flight 655 Departs: 8:00a
John F Kennedy Intl (JFK) Arrives: 12:00p
Cyril E King Airport (STT)
Coach | Aircraft: 757 | 4h 00m

Return – Wed 18 Jun 2008
This flight leaves and arrives on different dates.
American Airlines
Flight 846 Departs: 7:55a
Cyril E King Airport (STT) Arrives: 10:35a
Miami (MIA)
Coach | Aircraft: 757 | 2h 40m
[ Layover in Miami, FL (MIA) for 7h 50m ]
American Airlines
Flight 62 Departs: 6:25p
Miami (MIA) Arrives: 9:20a
Ch. De Gaulle (CDG)
Coach | Aircraft: 763 | 8h 55m

Airfare Taxes & Fees Total Cost
American Airlines $972.21 $136.80 $1109.01 select
Orbitz $836.00 $415.00 $1251.00 select

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Posted : April 6, 2008 1:07 am
simkiss
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i don't think they'll visit much if there is a long layover, but surely not if it's 4 days traveling each time. oh well. maybe they'll just have to move!

thanks for helping me look

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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 1:12 am
Trade
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I doubt they'll come at all if you're not living here.

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Posted : April 6, 2008 1:14 am
Yvonne
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Which airline did you find the $800 from France to the French Caribbean?

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Posted : April 6, 2008 10:57 am
simkiss
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Air Caraibes has flights from €450 to €650

http://www.aircaraibes.com

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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 11:54 am
Sabrina
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simkiss, nothing wrong with taking LIAT. They bounce from island to island, but coming from Europe, I think that would be a plus! I love LIAT, and have many happy memories of flying around the islands with them.

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Posted : April 6, 2008 3:20 pm
simkiss
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i've nothing against LIAT. they just don't fly the routes we need. i might take a flight with them myself someday just to go from island to island to check them out.

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Topic starter Posted : April 6, 2008 5:17 pm
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LIAT does not have very many direct routes. However, they do fly from St Maarten, sometimes by way of Anguilla. And I have flown from Guadeloupe here, although I can't remember the airline. LIAT is Antigua based, so serves mainly the British (former British) islands.

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Posted : April 6, 2008 6:59 pm
DL
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If you're flying from France to St. Maarten, there are direct flights on LIAT from St. Maarten to St. Thomas.

If you're flying from France to Guadeloupe, and need to get to St. Thomas, if you can't find a LIAT flight from Guadeloupe to St. Thomas, (on www.liatairline.com) the easiest alternative is to take Air Caraibes (www.aircaraibes.com) or Air Antilles Express (www.airantilles.com) from Guadeloupe to either the airport on the Dutch side or the French side of St. Martin, depending on their schedules. The international airport is in St. Maarten (Dutch side) and a smaller airport that serves the French Caribbean is on the French side. If you end up having to fly into the airport on the French side from Guadeloupe, you have to leave enough time in your connection to take a taxi from the French side airport to the Dutch side airport and fly from there to St. Thomas.

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Posted : April 6, 2008 10:39 pm
simkiss
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the schedule works out such that the paris > st. maarten flight arrives 4 hours after the flight takes off from st. maarten > st. thomas. i guess they'll just have to spend the night in st. maarten!

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Topic starter Posted : April 7, 2008 6:33 am
DL
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Remember, flying into Tortola is also an option, I believe there is a evening flight from St. Maarten to Tortola on LIAT and Winair. They might still have to overnight in Tortola though, but they could get into St. John first thing in the morning.

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Posted : April 7, 2008 2:20 pm
simkiss
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that sounds like it could work. i just had a look and it seems like a great option. there's plenty of time for them to make the trip via this route in 1 day! this is a winner i think. plus, it'll be nice to end the travels with a boat ride.

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Topic starter Posted : April 7, 2008 2:32 pm
DL
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They have boats from Tortola to St. John that late?

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Posted : April 8, 2008 5:39 pm
simkiss
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i think i saw 5.15 or something it leaves

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Topic starter Posted : April 8, 2008 7:49 pm
Juanita
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simkiss,
Just keep this in mind. They will have been traveling all day and will be tired. Probably the last thing they will want to do is get on a public ferry, with bench seats, for what can be an ok ride, but not always. Also, how much time do they have between flight arrival and ferry departure. It's a ways from the airport to the ferry dock in Tortola, and what if the plane is late? If they miss that ferry, there's no other way. Even a private boat MUST get to St. John before customs and immigration closes.

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Posted : April 8, 2008 8:45 pm
Trade
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This is all a little premature since you're not here yet.

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Posted : April 8, 2008 9:21 pm
simkisstoo
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It pays to plan ahead. It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark. 🙂

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Posted : April 9, 2008 12:11 am
Trade
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With airlines going under & changing schedules & dropping flights, you can't plan too far ahead.

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Posted : April 9, 2008 12:53 am
simkiss
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Are there any that look like they'll be out of business this summer? Anything in the news recently?

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Topic starter Posted : April 9, 2008 1:21 pm
Lizard
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simkiss,
Actually American Airlines grounded some 50 planes due to electrical problems between today and yesterday stranding over a thousand passenger's. And reports are that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Posted : April 9, 2008 1:44 pm
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