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stx_gb
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Good afternoon,

I'm hoping someone can shed some light on how the registration process works for vehicles. I recently sold a vehicle that I bought from someone who had originally bought the vehicle from Olympic Rental Car in 2011. The car has been registered quite a few times since 2011 and no liens have ever come up due to parking tickets or speeding tickets. When the people who I sold the car to went into the DMV to register the vehicle there are now $275 worth of parking tickets on the books from when Olympic Rental Car owned the vehicle and they will not allow the vehicle to be registered until they are paid.

How is this possible? How can tickets be tied to a car if the court is unable to apply liens in a timely manner? Luckily this is only $275 but if this was thousands of dollars how can someone 3 owners later be held responsible?

Does this make sense to anyone? Is there a statute of limitations that I can claim to get these tickets removed?

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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Topic starter Posted : December 3, 2013 7:16 pm
SantaCoola
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Lets be real. Of course this is possible. Just look at your surroundings when at the DMV...

After realizing what you're looking at, ask yourself whether it makes sense to even begin trying to reason with anyone there. Then, assess whether you are a non-Crucian (unlike me).

After you answer yourself, cough up the $275 and call it a day.

Remember, garbage in, garbage out and trust me, it gat plenty ah gyabbage in deh!

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Posted : December 3, 2013 8:41 pm
Linda J
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Do yourself and the buyer a favor and pay these tickets - maybe split it between you. You can do this, or you can spend your time and energy fighting it for weeks and in the end, pay them anyway.

Edited to add that I was always happy with the people at the DMV, especially the last few years. I was usually in and out in under an hour and, for the most part they were pleasant and business-like. The leins showing up is not something they would have done. It is totally possible that they just didn't show up until now - the cr has changed hands several times since 2011.

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Posted : December 3, 2013 8:42 pm
stx_gb
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After talking with the DMV, Superior Court and Attorney Generals office it sounds like lien checks don't always happen during a title transfer like they are supposed to and their system could be out of date when it comes to the liens reported by the Superior Court. Prior to buying any vehicle I recommend calling the Superior Court with the licence plate number and having a lien check done.

Technically this shouldn't be able to happen because a lien check is always supposed to be completed by the DMV before transferring a title, but it's probably better to double check their work and call yourself so you don't get stuck holding the potato.

Hope this information keeps someone else from having to deal with this!

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Topic starter Posted : December 3, 2013 9:31 pm
Tiberius
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Your first mistake was buying a rental car. They're not worth it especially here. They get beat to death on all the hills and holes. You should never buy a repo either.

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Posted : December 3, 2013 10:42 pm
Alana33
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Why is it not the responsibility of the rental car dealership that incurred the tickets in the first place?
They have the names and credit card numbers of the rental people that were ticketed, so it would not be out of pocket for them.

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Posted : December 3, 2013 10:53 pm
DixieChick
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Alana is right. I would go back to the rental place.
Do u want to say which one?
Maybe they will at least split the cost with u.
Did u pay cash or finance?

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Posted : December 3, 2013 11:10 pm
mtdoramike
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Lets be real. Of course this is possible. Just look at your surroundings when at the DMV...

After realizing what you're looking at, ask yourself whether it makes sense to even begin trying to reason with anyone there. Then, assess whether you are a non-Crucian (unlike me).

After you answer yourself, cough up the $275 and call it a day.

Remember, garbage in, garbage out and trust me, it gat plenty ah gyabbage in deh!

hahahahahahahahahaha, this is exactly what I was going to suggest, just not quite as eloquently.

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Posted : December 3, 2013 11:16 pm
mtdoramike
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The it usually works is when they go to get their tags renewed or car inspected, they will check for unpaid tickets. There must have been a hiccup in their system. But it always comes down to who either owns the car or who is registering the car to pay for any out standing tickets. Like stated above, if the car is worth the extra money, pay the tickets and move on.

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Posted : December 3, 2013 11:20 pm
rmb2830
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knowing how the government records are kept, it is also possible that the tickets were paid way back. I'd probably check with Olympic at least to see if they say they paid them.

We have learned over the years that you ALWAYS keep any receipt for anything you pay the VI government, because they are known for coming around later looking for the payment again.

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Posted : December 3, 2013 11:27 pm
Yearasta
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@stx_gb

What is the status of this?

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Posted : December 9, 2013 12:53 pm
stx_gb
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I am working to get the tickets erased since ownership has passed three times before the DMV decided to report the tickets. I will update once I know more. The Attorney's General's office has been very helpful in listening to my issue and it sounds like they agree it is the fault of the DMV if they provide a clean title during an ownership change without first checking for liens.

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Topic starter Posted : December 9, 2013 2:09 pm
Yearasta
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K, if you run into anymore redtape let me know.

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Posted : December 9, 2013 2:38 pm
harlembornboy
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who knows...maybe they have collected the unpaid tickets for the past couple of registrations...this could be a very good way for the VI government to increase their income...since they don't do their records well....repeat operations may become the means to and end.

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Posted : December 9, 2013 4:08 pm
stx_gb
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I have a little bit of an update. I should be getting a dismissal of the tickets but that is still in process. I have also called the rental car company and they have informed me that they have recently encountered this same issue with a different vehicle that they have. It sounds like to me that the superior court who keeps the database of unpaid tickets recently synced their database with the database that the DMV keeps so a bunch of old tickets are now showing up. Either that or the DMV hasn't done a lien check the past two years and are now blocking all registrations. Either way they've created a pretty big mess for anyone caught up in this tangled web which is the DMV.

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Topic starter Posted : December 16, 2013 8:15 pm
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