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stephaniev
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yes,it's true,he is dead,suffered a cardiac arrest in his LA home,died at UCLA med Ctr.

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Topic starter Posted : June 25, 2009 11:23 pm
Michaelds9
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May he burn in Hell.

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Posted : June 25, 2009 11:39 pm
A Davis
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while i was not expecting that, you are entitled to your response.

as for me, i am acknowledging a troubled man who also had an incredible talent. it's too bad how his life turned out. perhaps he never had a chance.

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Posted : June 25, 2009 11:52 pm
stephaniev
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I choose to recognize the Michael Jackson of the 80's that icon of my childhood

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Topic starter Posted : June 26, 2009 12:08 am
dougtamjj
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Anita, google "Don't stop until you get enough". He was so beautiful then.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 12:32 am
dougtamjj
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I just watched 'Ben". RIP Michael.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 12:36 am
AllMashUp
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I'd like to take this time to remember the other 6700 odd Americans that died today, other than the two that have been mentioned today ad nauseum

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Posted : June 26, 2009 12:39 am
East Ender
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And poor Farrah, forever upstaged.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 1:44 am
Yearasta
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So true EE

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Posted : June 26, 2009 1:55 am
dntw8up
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It's weird that as of today, Fawcett and Jackson will be forever linked in people's minds...

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Posted : June 26, 2009 2:16 am
dntw8up
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"May he burn in Hell."

I was under the impression that a bunch of mostly middle age and elderly white people were presented with all of the facts, and found him not guilty on all charges.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 2:23 am
eldove76
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RIP MJ... a very misunderstood, troubled man... may you finally get some rest! U rocked my world with good music decade after decade after decade!

Very good observation (about the trial & not guilty) but he was tried and convicted long before the court date.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 6:03 am
divinggirl
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"Not Guilty" does not equal "Innocent". People are entitled to their opinion.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 12:29 pm
changesinlattitide
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Let's face it, Michael Jackson had some real serious issues. The dude was truly messed up. I don't care if Thriller was the biggest selling album. I don't care if he could moon walk all the way from Frederiksted to Christiansted and back again.

"It makes no difference if you're black or white"............... A child molester is a child molester.

Enough already.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 12:33 pm
eldove76
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It amazes me that folks only believe in our beloved judicial system when the verdict substantiates their belief. We weren't there and since most of the allegations went away because they wanted money (If someone molested your child would you take payment for it to go away???????????????????????) the only one that made it to trial was NOT GUILTY after the facts were argued on both sides. I'll say it again... It amazes me that folks only believe in our judicial system when the verdict substantiates their belief.

We all are entitled to our opinions... No one is disputing that.

Enough already!

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Posted : June 26, 2009 12:49 pm
jewelygirl
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And so may you for your hatred.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 1:20 pm
changesinlattitide
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What normal "parent" would let their child go on play dates with a grown man. They wouldn't. Believe it or not, there are some truly f***** up "parents" out there and they put their children in harms way to profit.

Our judicial system is what it is. Sometimes innocent people are convicted. Sometimes guilty people go free.

Remember Michael Jackson however you want. Have your own opinion, I certainly do. To me his actions spoke volumes over his music. Just because he had the ability to lure in innocent children via unscrupulous parents and then buy them off, it doesn't make it "okay". He soured his own legacy.

All I know is I have been trying to watch the "news" for going on two days now.

Enough is enough...Move on!!!!!

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Posted : June 26, 2009 1:28 pm
eldove76
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Ah, to be tried in the court of public opinion.

His actions speaks volumes??? So you were there? You saw him molesting those kids? I do not now nor did I ever believe he molested those boys.

Child neglect/endangerment is also a crime, but no cries for them to go to trial??? I wonder why...

MJ will finally get some rest until the day of judgment where we will all be accountable for everything that we've done. I am confident, if he did (which I doubt but we will never know & all we have is our "opinion") he will have to answer for that and if he didn't I hope he's done enough good to finally get some peace because no one's doubting the fact that he was a troubled soul.

In memory of one of the greatest..............................
I'm Gonna Make A Change,
For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good,
Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .

As I, Turn Up The Collar On My
Favourite Winter Coat
This Wind Is Blowin' My Mind
I See The Kids In The Street,
Without Enough To Eat
Who Am I, To Be Blind?
Pretending Not To See
Their Needs
A Summer's Disregard,
A Broken Bottle Top
And A One Man's Soul
They Follow Each Other On
The Wind Ya' Know
'Cause They Got Nowhere To Go
That's Why Now I Want You To Know

I'm Starting With The Man In The Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change)
(Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na, Na Nah)

I've Been A Victim Of A Selfish
Kind Of Love
It's Time That I Realize
That There Are Some With No
Home, Not A Nickel To Loan
Could It Be Really Me,
Pretending That They're Not Alone?

A Willow Deeply Scarred,
Somebody's Broken Heart
And A Washed-Out Dream
(Washed-Out Dream)
They Follow The Pattern Of
The Wind, Ya' See
Cause They Got No Place To Be
That's Why I'm Starting With Me
(Starting With Me!)

I'm Starting With The Man In The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways
(Ooh!)
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change)

I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways
(Change His Ways-Ooh!)
And No Message Could've
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .)
Change!

I'm Starting With The Man In The Mirror,
(Man In The Mirror-Oh Yeah!)
I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways
(Better Change!)
No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make The Change)
(You Gotta Get It Right, While
You Got The Time)
('Cause When You Close Your Heart)
You Can't Close Your . . .Your Mind!
(Then You Close Your . . . Mind!)
That Man, That Man, That
Man, That Man
With That Man In The Mirror
(Man In The Mirror, Oh Yeah!)
That Man, That Man, That Man
I'm Asking Him To Change His Ways
(Better Change!)
You Know . . .That Man
No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change)
Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Oh Yeah!)
Gonna Feel Real Good Now!
Yeah Yeah! Yeah Yeah!
Yeah Yeah!
Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah
(Ooooh . . .)
Oh No, No No . . .
I'm Gonna Make A Change
It's Gonna Feel Real Good!
Come On!
(Change . . .)
Just Lift Yourself
You Know
You've Got To Stop It.
Yourself!
(Yeah!-Make That Change!)
I've Got To Make That Change,
Today!
Hoo!
(Man In The Mirror)
You Got To
You Got To Not Let Yourself . . .
Brother . . .
Hoo!
(Yeah!-Make That Change!)
You Know-I've Got To Get
That Man, That Man . . .
(Man In The Mirror)
You've Got To
You've Got To Move! Come
On! Come On!
You Got To . . .
Stand Up! Stand Up!
Stand Up!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Stand Up And Lift
Yourself, Now!
(Man In The Mirror)
Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Aaow!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Gonna Make That Change . . .
Come On!
(Man In The Mirror)
You Know It!
You Know It!
You Know It!
You Know . . .
(Change . . .)
Make That Change.
🙂

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Posted : June 26, 2009 2:07 pm
DixieChick
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Poor Michael had a childhood that none of us could possibly imagine. It is not our place to judge him. I remember him as a cute talented kid growing up. He was the Elvis of our time. We should be proud for what he did to the music industry. If he did molest kids then for one....why were these kids allowed to stay with him without parental supervision? and two he was found not guilty.

Must he forever pay for this????

Michael you will always be remembered for your music, and dancing. It ended to soon.
R.I.P.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 2:12 pm
changesinlattitide
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"His actions speaks volumes??? So you were there? You saw him molesting those kids? I do not now nor did I ever believe he molested those boys." ...Eldove 76

Don't be an idiot. Of course I wasn't there.

However, I watched him in a television interview of Michael Jackson boasting about inviting young boys to sleep in his bed. He stated that "sharing your bed is the most loving thing you can do".

I stand by my statement..."To me his actions spoke volumes over his music. Just because he had the ability to lure in innocent children via unscrupulous parents and then buy them off, it doesn't make it "okay". He soured his own legacy."

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Posted : June 26, 2009 2:22 pm
terry
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Don't know if he was guilty or not. I hope he was, because he certainly paid the price, except jail time, as he was treated like he was guilty.

He was a incredibility talented person. I liked most of his songs especially in the period of Billy Jean and Thriller.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 2:35 pm
stephaniev
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I knew this would happen,can't we all just get along? agree to disagree,compassion for others supercedes anger and bickering over stupid ideals. Just love....

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Topic starter Posted : June 26, 2009 3:35 pm
Michaelds9
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"May he burn in Hell."

I was under the impression that a bunch of mostly middle age and elderly white people were presented with all of the facts, and found him not guilty on all charges.

Dear lady I'm guessing you were as surprised and dismayed by my comment as I am yours.
I have enjoyed your posts as a voice of reason on this board.
Why include race into your comments?
I have said nothing on this board to indicate my comment was racially motivated. In fact in the school thread I just offered a cash donation and my physical labor to help with school clean up in a place I will never have children (mine are grown) and is statistically around 85% non white where I to care about skin color. I am voluntarily moving my fiancee and myself to a place where we will be a small minority. A place where so far we have been treated with respect and kindness and have given the same.

Fame and money can buy one out of all kinds of trouble. Middle aged and elderly white people are just as susceptible as anyone else to said influences. If I see repeated clouds of smoke I must conclude there has been a fire - even if the fire is never witnessed.

I do apologize for my offensive remark. My grandmother would have been very disappointed with me. She always taught me to say something nice about a person or say nothing at all. Michael Jackson was an immensely talented person. Too bad his legacy will forever be tainted by his behavior off stage.

Mea maxima culpa.

Mike

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Posted : June 26, 2009 3:55 pm
A Davis
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i do not feel that it is appropriate for adolescent or prepubescent boys or girls to sleep in a bed with adults. that was very questionable activity. i feel that it is overly stimulating on more than one level.

parents who see nothing wrong with permitting their children to sleep at the home of a person who sees nothing wrong with creating these circumstances, need to rethink themselves.

i truly believe that michael was asexual, and that he was arrested in his development by a variety of emotional traumas he suffered as a child and as a young man. he never wanted to grow up, much like some anorexics. he literally stopped in time, but he kept aging. he was also surrounded by people who fed his addictions and eccentricities. if you did not, i take it you were fired, so if you cared, you'd be out of there.

the whole thing is quite sad. i don't think he abused any of the children, but i do believe that he was not an ideal companion for any child without supervision... he was, literally, a child himself.

mega talent, which is what we all honor and cannot be disputed, is behind all of the sentiment. he is my contemporary, and part of my life by way of the music that he created. i am thinking that if my life were examined so thoroughly, someone could find something for which to hate me... we all do things to other people outside of the white-hot spotlight for which we may not be proud.

wrongs are wrongs, and while we usually strive to do well, we all commit them.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 3:59 pm
changesinlattitide
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I don't consider zero tolerance for child molesters a stupid ideal. The innocence of a child is precious. It should be protected, preserved, and held in the highest regard.

That being said...Today is my Grandchild's 2ND Birthday. We are all going to the water park. The sight of me in my swimming suit (with shorts and a tank top over it of course) should be enough to thwart any would be child predator.

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Posted : June 26, 2009 4:05 pm
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