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May 18, 2016 9:10 am  

‘NO TIME FOR STUPID QUESTIONS’: J.F.L. BOARD MOVES TO BLOCK PUBLIC FROM MEETINGS

http://viconsortium.com/featured/no-time-stupid-questions-j-f-l-board-moves-block-public-meetings/


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May 18, 2016 10:57 am  

smh


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May 18, 2016 11:52 am  

Though the timeline is unclear, banning reporters and by-laws shenanigans seem to be the JFL Board's response to the FOIA request made by the Daily News that outed Okolo for giving himself a raise before his CEO contract was signed. This combined with the phony doctorate did Okolo in - in my opinion.

Okolo had the resume and he did do much to improve JFL -but his compromised personal values became apparent. The JFL Board was caught trying to protect Okolo and was forced into taking the correct action. Now the JFL Board is all about circling the wagons and blaming the press rather than owning up to mistake in supporting Okolo.

Honesty is not situational - it's a yes or no question.


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May 18, 2016 12:01 pm  

They've been withholding FOIA information requested by Daily News for over a year.


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May 18, 2016 12:05 pm  

A total waste of time and taxpayer's money while the only benefits are reaped by the attorneys on both sides.


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May 18, 2016 12:20 pm  

The Daily News cites it received information about Okolo's employment through an open records request made in March 2016.


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May 18, 2016 12:21 pm  

A total waste of time and taxpayer's money while the only benefits are reaped by the attorneys on both sides.

What is a total waste of time exactly?

Just wanting clarity.


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May 18, 2016 12:37 pm  

JFL=Just for Laughs......


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May 18, 2016 12:55 pm  

A total waste of time and taxpayer's money while the only benefits are reaped by the attorneys on both sides.

What is a total waste of time exactly?

Just wanting clarity.

I'm not sure what clarity you're looking for as it seems apparent. When the public is banned from attending meetings held by a government entity in direct contravention of the law, the dispute goes to court which entails an army of attorneys on both sides filing countless briefs and motions. Attorneys demand payment for services rendered. Attorneys representing the government, along with judges, clerks and everyone else involved in the judicial system are paid for by taxpayers, while that system's time is tied up in knots.


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May 18, 2016 12:56 pm  

It is as intriguing as House of Cards on Netflix.
I presume Okolo has ruffled some feathers and got nixed. Vanity PhD has nothing to do with it. He has legit Masters in Healthcare administration which is more than enough to run a small hospital.
Mapp claims to have collage degree but he does not. He took some courses that's all.


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May 18, 2016 1:22 pm  

It is as intriguing as House of Cards on Netflix.
I presume Okolo has ruffled some feathers and got nixed. Vanity PhD has nothing to do with it. He has legit Masters in Healthcare administration which is more than enough to run a small hospital.
Mapp claims to have collage degree but he does not. He took some courses that's all.

Okolo is quite legitimate but got caught giving himself a raise. Lying about credentials is a serious problem in the real world - and Okolo is a creature of the real world - and back to it he goes.

Seriously embarrassed himself (I hope) and the JFL Board.

Ken Mapp has a master's degree from Harvard.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/10/29/harvard-school-state-one/


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May 18, 2016 1:26 pm  

Ken Mapp has a master's degree from Harvard.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/10/29/harvard-school-state-one//blockquote >

More proof of how "useful" college degrees are when judging competency...

(not at all)


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May 18, 2016 1:57 pm  

Ken Mapp has a master's degree from Harvard.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/10/29/harvard-school-state-one//blockquote >

More proof of how "useful" college degrees are when judging competency...

(not at all)

College degrees help assure knowledge competency.

Unfortunately, not character and values.


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May 18, 2016 2:04 pm  

College degrees help assure knowledge competency.

Unfortunately, not character and values.

Hmmm... Grammar.

com·pe·tence

noun
noun: competence; noun: competency; plural noun: competences

1.
the ability to do something successfully or efficiently.
"the players displayed varying degrees of competence"

I stand by my original wording 😉

Knowledge = / = competence.

College = / = knowledge.

College = conformity, College = debt & college = required for legacy jobs, those are about the only statements I'll stand behind as "wide sweeping generalities" about those indoctrinated by the atrocious academia system we have been inflicted with since the 70's.


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May 18, 2016 2:11 pm  

College degrees help assure knowledge competency.

Unfortunately, not character and values.

Hmmm... Grammar.

com·pe·tence

noun
noun: competence; noun: competency; plural noun: competences

1.
the ability to do something successfully or efficiently.
"the players displayed varying degrees of competence"

I stand by my original wording 😉

Knowledge = / = competence.

College = / = knowledge.

College = conformity, College = debt & college = required for legacy jobs, those are about the only statements I'll stand behind as "wide sweeping generalities" about those indoctrinated by the atrocious academia system we have been inflicted with since the 70's.

Sour grapes for not finishing a degree perhaps?

When I hire, I look for a college degree to assure a candidate is able to start and finish something.


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May 18, 2016 2:27 pm  

When hire, I look for a college degree to assure a candidate is able to start and finish something.

So it's a litmus test for perseverance? I suppose that's true & a trait that I regard highly)

Sour grapes for not finishing a degree perhaps?

Nah, technology worker... it's a JOKE how far behind college is compared to modern industry in my field, I quit going because I wanted to learn useful things; now I'm a "certification junkie" (funny, I guess in reality I traded one REALLY expensive piece of paper for many less expensive pieces of paper).

I've self taught myself more than any school ever taught me, desire and motivation are not reflected by college degrees.


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May 18, 2016 2:30 pm  

When hire, I look for a college degree to assure a candidate is able to start and finish something.

Wow, with all due respect have you really done a lot of hiring? I can tell you from decades of hiring that a college degree is absolutely no measure or assurance of a candidate's ability to "start and finish something".


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May 18, 2016 2:33 pm  

I can tell you from decades of hiring that a college degree is absolutely no measure or assurance of a candidate's ability to "start and finish something".

From a professional point of view, in an organization in the states with 2,500+ employees (decent sample), I absolutely concur; I've sat on many hiring boards & for me, the INTERVIEW is what will make or break you (which is unfortunate, because it is unfairly biased to extroverts) I just don't care about paper qualifications anymore.... been burnt too many times when using that as a metric.

a better way to look at it is just to apply the 80/20 rule.. that seems MUCH more reliable.


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May 18, 2016 2:37 pm  

When hire, I look for a college degree to assure a candidate is able to start and finish something.

Wow, with all due respect have you really done a lot of hiring? I can tell you from decades of hiring that a college degree is absolutely no measure or assurance of a candidate's ability to "start and finish something".

I have worked in large, corporate environments where college degrees usually are a requirement for consideration. Those without degrees rarely make the cut - but that's from a candidate pool that may be in the hundreds.

I know it's different in the VI and for small businesses.


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May 18, 2016 2:55 pm  

A college degree means very little. To me, it means that you're good at going to school. I quit school in grade 10 but caught a break with a big corporation who didn't thoroughly check my resume.

I rose through the ranks from Territory Sales Rep to Director of Marketing over the course of 18 years. I hated that HR only allowed me to hire those with college degrees. So limiting.


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May 18, 2016 3:08 pm  

I have worked in large, corporate environments where college degrees usually are a requirement for consideration. Those without degrees rarely make the cut - but that's from a candidate pool that may be in the hundreds.

I know it's different in the VI and for small businesses.

I've worked in exactly the same environments and to say you know that, "it's different in the VI and for small businesses" as though either are generally intrinsically lacking, is condescendingly assumptive.

You may find this from the The Harvard Review of interest, just one of many on the subject:
https://hbr.org/2013/02/stop-requiring-college-degrees/


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May 18, 2016 4:17 pm  

"it's different in the VI and for small businesses" as though either are generally intrinsically lacking, is condescendingly assumptive.

so you are saying that there isn't a different culture here, that work ethics are on-par with all other places, that there isn't the worst cases of nepotism in the US right here on these islands?

I don't know... It IS different here...

I work with "professionals" (VIPD, VITEMA, BIT etc..) that I wouldn't trust to fill the tires on my truck with air & we are suppose to be preparing for a natural disaster.... Individuals that make 6 figures but act like large children & regularly throw fits and hold childish grudges (all in the MOST passive aggressive way possible).

I don't know that I disagree with that assumption, I certainly don't think it condescending; I think it's intent was clarification (maybe a touch of humble bragging, but hey, we all have ego right?)


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May 18, 2016 5:09 pm  

so you are saying that there isn't a different culture here, that work ethics are on-par with all other places ... )

The point being questioned was about the assertion that a college degree assures that a candidate is able to start and finish something while that assurance can't be similarly made about someone who doesn't have a degree.


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May 18, 2016 5:19 pm  

so you are saying that there isn't a different culture here, that work ethics are on-par with all other places ... )

The point being questioned was about the assertion that a college degree assures that a candidate is able to start and finish something while that assurance can't be similarly made about someone who doesn't have a degree.

If they manage to complete a degree, it's another indicator that they've already proven they were able to finish something they started. It does not assure that those who don't complete college can't follow through, and I didn't get that implication from the post. When you're filtering through a few hundred resumes, and you can't interview all the applicants, the resume with the degree has the edge, all other things considered. You can't interview them all.


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