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Yup...renovating the house now so we can sell it while the market is hot over the next year or two. We'll probably move somewhere warm yet hurricane free. Perhaps Arizona.

 
Posted : October 10, 2018 4:48 pm
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No place will be immune.
Arizona just had some record flooding, I believe.
Their dust storms put our Sahara dust to shame.
Good luck, tho.

 
Posted : October 10, 2018 4:54 pm
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No place will be immune.
Arizona just had some record flooding, I believe.
Their dust storms put our Sahara dust to shame.
Good luck, tho.

We own another house in the mid west but its cold there so I don't really want to live there year round.

 
Posted : October 10, 2018 5:12 pm
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https://youtu.be/bI-dO7RI3lE
Haboob! Mind boggling!

 
Posted : October 10, 2018 6:10 pm
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caribstx, not making fun of your choice of relocating to AZ but came across this and thought it interesting sort of funny too, in a way.

https://youtu.be/irRsVS2jHRQ

Wonder if they have a top 10 for not moving to VI?

At any rate, we're ALL going to be looking at major issues in our lifetimes and those of our children.

It's up to us to elect leaders that are willing and capable of of being proactive instead of selling us and our environment out.

 
Posted : October 10, 2018 6:33 pm
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Stop buying SUVs. That’s the most we can do as individuals.

US has by far the highes per capital CO2 production. Followed by Canada. China and India are huge problem countries due to population size and growing middle class.

 
Posted : October 11, 2018 6:38 am
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So I guess the solution is eliminating the entire middle class... or would that be enough for you guys?

 
Posted : October 11, 2018 5:01 pm
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i had thought about moving there, the heat doesnt bother me as much as the dry and allergies.

Yup...renovating the house now so we can sell it while the market is hot over the next year or two. We'll probably move somewhere warm yet hurricane free. Perhaps Arizona.

 
Posted : October 11, 2018 6:42 pm
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cowa are a bigger threat, arent they

Stop buying SUVs. That’s the most we can do as individuals.

US has by far the highes per capital CO2 production. Followed by Canada. China and India are huge problem countries due to population size and growing middle class.

 
Posted : October 11, 2018 6:45 pm
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Yup...renovating the house now so we can sell it while the market is hot over the next year or two. We'll probably move somewhere warm yet hurricane free. Perhaps Arizona.

Arizona blows lol. Well Phoenix and surrounding anyway. Nasty people, ZERO to do unless you have a boat and the lakes are a hot mess. It’s literally in a bowl so the pollution is sickening and of course monsoon season. You literally couldn’t pay me to move back there. Too cold for me up north AZ. I refuse to visit family anymore in AZ. I get raging sick every time I step off the plane, it’s the air.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 3:11 am
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Yes. Sadly meat production is one of the major producers of methane, more dangerous than Co2z
Driving SUVs won’t stop it... you know what will? NOT reproducing!

The earth can handle humans - but we’ve overpopulated past the tipping point (MO). Sadly too many are still breeding and in ridiculous amounts. No turning back. More storms, more heat more drought more freezing more ocean acidification until the the plankton choke out and stop producting oxygen for us. Always ironic that people don’t worry about the ocean when it produces over 70% of our oxygen. The earth will cull humans. I’m betting in less than 100 years... and by the headlines of storms, quakes, illnesses... it already has started. Luckily she’ll be here long after we’re gone. What a Eden that will be.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 3:19 am
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I have lived in AZ for 71 years and have never found anywhere better except for STX, but my wife won't move because of grandkids.
We live in the Phoenix area and we do get the huge dust storms a few times a year. I don't find the people nasty, well some are but usually transplants from elsewhere. The lakes around close by are crowded in the summer.
For me, it's too cold in the winter, can get down to freezing but the fall and spring are great. The summers are hot but low humidity compared to most other places.
We did just get big rain storms from a hurricane that moved up from Mexico.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 1:18 pm
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"It's a dry heat."
😉

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 3:21 pm
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Arizona blows lol. Well Phoenix and surrounding anyway. Nasty people, ZERO to do unless you have a boat and the lakes are a hot mess. It’s literally in a bowl so the pollution is sickening and of course monsoon season. You literally couldn’t pay me to move back there. Too cold for me up north AZ. I refuse to visit family anymore in AZ. I get raging sick every time I step off the plane, it’s the air.

Great perspective! I had no idea.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 5:17 pm
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I have lived in AZ for 71 years and have never found anywhere better except for STX, but my wife won't move because of grandkids.
We live in the Phoenix area and we do get the huge dust storms a few times a year. I don't find the people nasty, well some are but usually transplants from elsewhere. The lakes around close by are crowded in the summer.
For me, it's too cold in the winter, can get down to freezing but the fall and spring are great. The summers are hot but low humidity compared to most other places.
We did just get big rain storms from a hurricane that moved up from Mexico.

Nice to hear the other side too. The world often looks very dark and bleak to AandA2VI.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 5:19 pm
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That's funny caribstx.
AandA2VI are actually very fun loving, responsible and caring.
Tells it like it is from experience.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 5:34 pm
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From a recent FORBES article...

The IPCC is in full damage-control mode after it leaked advance copies of an upcoming Summary for Policymakers to what it assumed would be friendly journalists. The journalists, however, quickly realized the IPCC Summary for Policymakers contained several embarrassing walk-backs from alarmist statements in prior IPCC reports.

Two of the most embarrassing aspects of the Summary for Policymakers are (1) IPCC’s admission that global warming has occurred much slower than IPCC previously forecast and (2) IPCC is unable to explain the ongoing plateau in global temperatures. IPCC computer models have predicted twice as much warming as has occurred in the real world, and virtually none of the IPCC computer models can replicate or account for the recent lack of global warming.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 8:56 pm
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The Consortium article is based on a report put together by (IPCC) Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 9:09 pm
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Let's just ignore devastation caused by Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes that are now the norm, increasing wildfires, droughts and flooding, earthquakes, tsunamis, slaughter of wildlife, the onslaught of plastic waste, pollution, rising ocean levels and melting polar regions. We impact our environment by the decisions WE make.

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 10:11 pm
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And let’s keep the misinformation flowing and the unnecessary hysteria spreading.

Sounds fun loving, responsible, and caring to me!

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 11:29 pm
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Science is her Kryptonite

 
Posted : October 13, 2018 11:47 pm
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I have lived in AZ for 71 years and have never found anywhere better except for STX, but my wife won't move because of grandkids.
We live in the Phoenix area and we do get the huge dust storms a few times a year. I don't find the people nasty, well some are but usually transplants from elsewhere. The lakes around close by are crowded in the summer.
For me, it's too cold in the winter, can get down to freezing but the fall and spring are great. The summers are hot but low humidity compared to most other places.
We did just get big rain storms from a hurricane that moved up from Mexico.

Nice to hear the other side too. The world often looks very dark and bleak to AandA2VI.

Lol or honest. Look up road rage AZ. That’s a good example of what I mean about nasty. People get shot for not lettting others on the freeway. Major drug issues in AZ, hard drugs. AZ is a melting pot of all types of people who come together from all over the states and have zero idea on how to treat each other because each state is different in that aspect. It’s weird. Most of my family is still there and they all have horrible health/skin problems. People move there because allergies aren’t an issue (mold either) BUT now it’s a HUGE city where people have imported tons of non native trees and such and allergies are off the chain. You’re literally in a bowl. When I lived there it was fine - I never really thought about it until AFTER I moved here and looked back on it and visited back a few times. I realized the food and the air was what was making me sick all the time. All the food tastes the same tooI and generally so over processed. I still own my property in Marley Park, west of Phoenix. Also most of the houses are only 10feet from the neighbors. I couldn’t ever do that again, personally.

I guess I’m just a girl who knows what she likes!

 
Posted : October 14, 2018 1:47 pm
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That quote is from an OpEd from 2013. Not so recent. Nothing to do with the recently published report

It is written by a lawyer (not scientist) who is president of the Spark of Freedom Foundation that promotes clean energy i.e. nuclear power.

This OpEd is someone's opinion that you agree with but not fact checked science journalism.

Using this quote without attributing it to the writer and his agenda is disingenuous at best.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/09/26/as-its-global-warming-narrative-unravels-the-ipcc-is-in-damage-control-mode/#3f73f16a2695

From a recent FORBES article...

The IPCC is in full damage-control mode after it leaked advance copies of an upcoming Summary for Policymakers to what it assumed would be friendly journalists. The journalists, however, quickly realized the IPCC Summary for Policymakers contained several embarrassing walk-backs from alarmist statements in prior IPCC reports.

Two of the most embarrassing aspects of the Summary for Policymakers are (1) IPCC’s admission that global warming has occurred much slower than IPCC previously forecast and (2) IPCC is unable to explain the ongoing plateau in global temperatures. IPCC computer models have predicted twice as much warming as has occurred in the real world, and virtually none of the IPCC computer models can replicate or account for the recent lack of global warming.

 
Posted : October 14, 2018 6:38 pm
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About 10 years ago I was thinking about moving to Arizona. I fell in love with the Phoenix area and the desert landscaping. I was getting ready to purchase a property in Chandler but the morning I was going to put down a deposit for a house I just happened to see an article in the Phoenix newspaper on what to do if you are bitten by a rattlesnake. That's all I needed to see I backed out of the deal bought another condo on the west side of Manhattan which over the last 10 years has tripled it's price. I often wondered how much my life would have been different if I hadn't read that newspaper article. I know people who live in Arizona and they seem to love it.

 
Posted : October 14, 2018 10:48 pm
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