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Person Burned to Death in Gruesome, ISIS-style Murder  

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monogram
(@monogram)
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Pray for our islands. 🙁

http://viconsortium.com/virgin-islands-2/scorched-body-found-inside-burning-vehicle/

[quote=OldTart]
I can rattle off the names of half a dozen people who were born and raised here, have excellent professional credentials and have tried unsuccessfully to come back and give back to the "their" community only to be shunned. If I as a mere "transplant" can come up with that number then I'm sure that number is infinitely greater.[/quote]

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Posted : November 21, 2015 12:36 am
Alana33
(@Alana33)
Islander

As horrendous as that is, it is not the first time that a body has been found in a burned car on STX. Not that it lessens the atrocity but I wouldn't jump on the Isis band wagon just yet.

Wonder how they're going to perform an autopsy without a medical examiner or did they manage to get a replacemnt?

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Posted : November 21, 2015 2:12 am
Spartygrad95
(@Spartygrad95)
Noble Member

ISIS style murder? Oh puhleeze. Fanning the flames of fear.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 2:59 am
monogram
(@monogram)
Reputable Member

Wonder how they're going to perform an autopsy without a medical examiner or did they manage to get a replacement?

Wow, great question.

[quote=OldTart]
I can rattle off the names of half a dozen people who were born and raised here, have excellent professional credentials and have tried unsuccessfully to come back and give back to the "their" community only to be shunned. If I as a mere "transplant" can come up with that number then I'm sure that number is infinitely greater.[/quote]

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Posted : November 21, 2015 4:24 am
ms411
(@ms411)
Islander

They supposedly have temporary replacement, and I read somewhere that they claim investigations are current despite the ME shortage.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 5:07 am
Alana33
(@Alana33)
Islander

I read an article on it but it seems that there was a backlog of autopsies as replacements still had to be properly vetted and licensed here before they can perform autopsies, especially in criminal cases which could effect the outcome of any investigations and resulting trails.

Oh, here's the link to the DN article on medical examiner status. http://virginislandsdailynews.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article825984bd-319a-47e0-8179-c8008e590088/waarticle825984bd-319a-47e0-8179-c8008e590088/825984bd-319a-47e0-8179-c8008e590088//true/vi+medical+examiner

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Posted : November 21, 2015 7:30 am
OldTart
(@OldTart)
Islander

Nothing new on the lack of an ME - it's happened several times over the years. The article notes that funding for an in-house ME was recently approved and it's my recollection that we had a dedicated full time USVI ME for many years before shifting to a PR-based one on call.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 10:17 am
speee1dy
(@speee1dy)
Islander

I was under the impression the person was shot/possible dead before the fire.

Eithercway it is horrible but hardly the same as isis or even what has been reported nelson Mandela s wife did

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Posted : November 21, 2015 11:18 am
Cruz
 Cruz
(@Cruz)
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ISIS style murder? Oh puhleeze. Fanning the flames of fear.

EXACTLY!!! my thoughts indeed. That was silly to add "ISIS style"

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Posted : November 21, 2015 1:23 pm
watruw8ing4
(@watruw8ing4)
Prominent Member

"ISIS-style"? Really?

IHappens more often than it should on the mainland, too. Good way to destroy evidence, make sure the victim is good and dead, and/or send a message.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 1:56 pm
Finatic
(@Finatic)
Trusted Member

Meanwhile whilst the concern seems to be a lack of a ME, or that the OP was inflammatory in her title, a man is dead, murdered brutally, and no one seems to care.

Soon someone will say that this person must have been in a gang or dealing drugs with the implication that he deserved to die. Then the crime apologists will say that since they don't do such things or go to such places it's not their worry, and the death will be forgotten. And crime happens everywhere so a shrug of the shoulders and move on back to the beach and the rum.

The lack of community outrage to these events from transplants who apparently only want to pick and choose what matters to them where they live is saddening beyond belief.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 2:01 pm
OldTart
(@OldTart)
Islander

^^^ What a bloody miserable and condemning diatribe. Assume much?

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Posted : November 21, 2015 2:42 pm
JahRustyFerrari
(@JahRustyFerrari)
Reputable Member

What style of murder is it when someone sits in front of a console in Nevada and uses a remotely piloted drone to incinerate the bride, groom, and dozens of guests at a wedding thousands of miles away in Afghanistan?

Go to Amazon.com and purchase a copy of "The thousand year war in the Mideast" by Richard Maybury, and you may begin to understand what is happening in the world today and the root causes.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 2:50 pm
Finatic
(@Finatic)
Trusted Member

^^^ What a bloody miserable and condemning diatribe. Assume much?

It is deserved. None bothered to comment its a terrible thing that happens too often in our community (once is too often), which should be the first thing expressed or felt. None bothered to express loss for the man and his family. Seems a lot of people here are either numb or don't care.

Agreed Monogram used a poor choice of word with ISIS. Her intent was for us to talk about the terror we continue experience in our own community and that obviously bothers her. Yet the only response is to discuss her choice of title and the ME. Pathetic.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 3:10 pm
watruw8ing4
(@watruw8ing4)
Prominent Member

Meanwhile whilst the concern seems to be a lack of a ME, or that the OP was inflammatory in her title, a man is dead, murdered brutally, and no one seems to care.

Soon someone will say that this person must have been in a gang or dealing drugs with the implication that he deserved to die. Then the crime apologists will say that since they don't do such things or go to such places it's not their worry, and the death will be forgotten. And crime happens everywhere so a shrug of the shoulders and move on back to the beach and the rum.

The lack of community outrage to these events from transplants who apparently only want to pick and choose what matters to them where they live is saddening beyond belief.

First off, it was the OP's opinionated title that led to alternate opinions being posted. ISIS is a hot-button issue, yet the type of crime is definitely not restricted to ISIS.

Your statement is speculative. All these predicted responses will probably appear. It's a good probability that the victim was involved in criminal activity, based on statistics. But since we don't know who he is, nobody has speculated on that but you, at this point. When we have more details, it may be that the victim was participating in risky behavior, and your other predictions will probably follow suit.

Your missteps were 1. that you assume there's no outrage over these murders. If so, you haven't been reading much of this forum. Yes, we are numbed by the numbers. Will the victim be forgotten? The name probably, unless you knew him. But the act , and the increase in the violent death count won't. And 2. that you think we will think he deserved to be murdered. Perhaps some do. But you're painting with too broad of a brush there.

I suppose that your perspective toward transplants blinds you to the outrage we perceive to the community response of non-transplants, who often won't help the police solve these crimes, for whatever reason (and I've heard that sentiment from caring non-transplants as well). And for voting in a government (transplants are in the minority, right?) that thinks peace rallies are an effective means of stopping the violence, that fritter away scarce money to line their own pockets, instead of using it to beef up law enforcement, and that so often turn a blind eye to corruption and crime.

FTR, I love my cheap rum. But I haven't been to the beach in weeks, except for the many hours I've spent down there picking up countless bags of trash, tires, and cast-off furniture and appliances. So here's the thing. I live here now, and plan to stay. I pay taxes and support the local economy. I volunteer hours and donate money to help make this island better. I have managed to meet and, after a long struggle getting through the stand-offish-ness I encountered, have finally formed some comfortable relationships with locals. Maybe it would help you if you actually got to meet and know some transplants, instead of assuming the worst in us.

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Posted : November 21, 2015 3:13 pm
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