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(@alana33)
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Pretty sure everyone even remotely involved with this tragic incident will be getting sued. They have the right attorney for it.

It doesn't bode well that the 2 boys are in still in critical condition after this amount of time and the father unable to move. It's really tragic.

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 1:47 am
(@ms411)
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I just hope the VI government can't be held liable, and that maybe somebody will be recognized for reacting heroically. It is not easy getting 4 critical people to a hospital on another island in an emergency.

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 3:07 am
(@alana33)
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It was mentioned on the news this morning. (HLN)

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 12:37 pm
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My friend who works a small airplane service says AeroMD was who flew the family back making several trips.

I don't like how sea glass deflected all questions to terminex who supposedly never treated the villa but treated the one below. So we still don't know who treated the actual villa. Take some accountability sea glass. Typical.

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 3:35 pm
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I don't like how sea glass deflected all questions to terminex who supposedly never treated the villa but treated the one below. So we still don't know who treated the actual villa. Take some accountability sea glass. Typical.

It would be extremely foolhardy of the property management company to answer any questions while the investigation is ongoing and no doubt their attorneys have advised them accordingly. As yet there is no indication that the unit the family stayed in was treated with anything. Evidence of the chemical was found in the unit as well as in the unit below it which had recently been treated by Terminix. The property management company may have nothing to be accountable for at all. There are still many unanswered questions and, although speculation will run rampant, only as the investigation continues will the root of the problem be found.

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 3:47 pm
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Thank goodness for AeroMD. Seems like great new service for the VI.

Sea Glass did not choose the chemical, and their attorney probably advised them to say as little as possible. Wonder what they're telling guests who have booked? It's all over national and probably international news, and until the investigation is over, nobody involved gets a good-to-go declaration.

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 3:49 pm
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Just curious, but is AeroMD something new on the islands? How were people with medical emergencies flown out before?

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 4:14 pm
(@speee1dy)
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it is new, we have skymed and masa. both have been here for a while

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 4:16 pm
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AeroMD has planes stationed at the St Thomas airport, and local medical personnel on staff or on call. Their rapid response time can be make a difference between life and death.

The other services are brokers who partner with various air providers, and they might not have a plane nearby that can accommodate you so there's a delay.

It took a week for a different service to find a plane to bring me to the VI from overseas. I wasn't critical so they took their time. In the meantime, hospital charges were ticking with each day.

 
Posted : April 5, 2015 4:44 pm
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I don't like how sea glass deflected all questions to terminex who supposedly never treated the villa but treated the one below. So we still don't know who treated the actual villa. Take some accountability sea glass. Typical.

Since they were using chemical as a fumigant (SP) it wouldn't be hard for residue of the chemical to have spread to other areas from where it was directly applied. I am sure that all sides are going to be cautious with statements due to potential liability

 
Posted : April 6, 2015 1:53 pm
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the article i read today said it was a spray and not a fumigation

 
Posted : April 6, 2015 2:04 pm
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the article i read today said it was a spray and not a fumigation

What's being reported is that the unit below was sprayed for insect control and that "traces" of methyl bromide were found in the unit above it where the family became ill. Methyl bromide is used as a fumigant (not a spray treatment) to treat agricultural pests in soils and grains. It's within the realm of possibility that methyl bromide fumigation was done on the surrounding exterior area. Or not. The answer will eventually come to light.

 
Posted : April 6, 2015 2:20 pm
(@alana33)
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Apparently, 3 other companies in the VI use methyl bromide as well.

Here's the latest Source article:
http://stthomassource.com/content/news/local-news/2015/04/07/three-more-companies-found-methyl-bromide-planning-says

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 9:09 am
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a few years ago we wanted to have just 1 room of our house tented. i dont remember who i used but they refused saying they would have to do the whole thing and we and our pets had to be vacated for at least 3 days.

we never had it done but i can understand why they would do that.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 10:45 am
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My friends were advised to leave their house for a few days because their next door neighbor was exterminating. I was told their houses were only 18" apart.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 10:49 am
(@alana33)
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Turned on ABC News this morning and there was the report on the pesticide poisoning. It's all over all the news.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 11:09 am
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The article says 3 companies HAVE methyl bromide.. Not are using it. Secondly, even if they were using it, they could be using it in a legal way. We had a program back in the States where the EPA would coordinate with state officials to come remove any old unused pesticides. Many companies inherit these chemicals and are just forced to store them.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 12:04 pm
(@alana33)
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I wonder why they HAVE it, if as this article stated, it's being supplied from PR and has been in use, previously. There is that pesky problem of what to do with all those pesticides that have been banned due to their proven toxicity.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 12:11 pm
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and if your neighbors were advised not to be home, why would anyone fumigate a place below where they were staying without making them move to a different location.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 12:12 pm
(@the-oldtart)
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We really need to avoid speculation and wait for FACTS. 😀

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 12:14 pm
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Banned? No. People can still use supplies of pesticides they HAVE even after they are decertified by the EPA. people also have various pesticides that are not "banned".. Ones that are just old. Ones that they do not want to use based on newer chemistry. Ones that have been exposed to light/heat/cold and are no longer viable. Not every warehouse is filled with "banned" pesticides. If you flea bomb your house you have a minimal re entry period. The problem here was the misuse of a pesticide going against it's labeled usage.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 12:18 pm
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and if your neighbors were advised not to be home, why would anyone fumigate a place below where they were staying without making them move to a different location.

That is a question the property manager will probably have to answer.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 12:43 pm
(@speee1dy)
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yep, ms411

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 1:12 pm
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It not illegal to use or possess methyl bromide, its illegal to use it improperly.

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 1:53 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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It not illegal to use or possess methyl bromide, its illegal to use it improperly.

Thank you

 
Posted : April 8, 2015 2:03 pm
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