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limetime2
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Paul Hess is my vet, I had a horrendous problem with ticks this year but have it under control now with Ivermectin (sp). I highly recommend that you talk to your vet about it. Talk to your vet. The ivermectin is not for all dogs and it is powerful stuff so should be used only with serious consideration. Its right for me. Ticks are gross, my dogs deserve not to have them and ... tick fever is a killer. If you use this treatment you will not need to buy heartworm medicine as it does both jobs.

About HEARTWORM. Heartworm isone of the biggest killer of dogs on this island and it goes undetected for months or years by many pet owners who just don't know about the need for providing monthly treatment for their dogs. The shelter coordinator recently told me that 9 out of 10 of the adult dogs that are surrendered at the shelter are heartworm positive! If you have a dog on this island that is more than a year old and is not on monthly heartworm protection then your dog likely has heartworms. Heartworms are very painful killers. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ... get your dogs on heartworm treatment. . Advanced heartworm is expensive and time consuming to treat and hard on both the dog and the owner. It is easily prevented with monthly meds. If you have mosquitos, which we all do... then your pet is at risk. Please. If you are not giving your dogs heartworm treatment every month... see your vet and get with the program.

Be a responsible pet owner!

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Posted : October 19, 2009 3:10 pm
Trade
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I've never heard of Lyme disease here.

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Posted : October 19, 2009 3:14 pm
DixieChick
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in the states we use to give our dogs shots of ivermectin (sp) and it worked. but you have to know the proper dosage to give.

had ticks at my old house. we bathed in a dip from dr. canton. i hated to use to dip but after awhile it worked. we dipped and let the dogs roll in the yard. they would shake and the dip would go flying around the yard. then would take the left over dip and pour in sprayer and sprayed the yard. it worked. after awhile no ticks. luckily where i live now no ticks so far.

i think i hate ticks more then fleas. they are creepy looking.

like brad paisley sings in song...."i wanna check you for ticks".

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Posted : October 19, 2009 4:16 pm
divinggirl
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I just got home from getting the Ivermectin from Dr. Hess and I can't wait for it to start working. We have used K9 Advantix for years and it was great but this year is so bad. We were using the K9 every 3 weeks and after 7 days the ticks were back. I have heard such good things about the Ivermectin I had to give it a try!

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Posted : October 19, 2009 6:49 pm
nforbes
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We don't have lyme disease here - we do have deer, but we do not have that disease, thankfully! we also do not have rabies. so please vaccinate your dogs prior to coming here, lol

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Posted : October 19, 2009 7:45 pm
SkysTheLimit
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divinggirl You will be amazed. Please post your success story in a few weeks.

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Posted : October 19, 2009 8:14 pm
DixieChick
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in states we use to get ivermectin from a feed store. you buy the dosage and syringe. a one shot deal. i couldnt shoot the dogs up but ex use to do it. it worked well. hope it works for you divinggirl. let me know also. in case i need to ever use it.

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Posted : October 20, 2009 1:56 pm
pamela
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Well, the wipe from the feed store seems to be working. My little one with the longest hair still has a few but the short haired dogs are clean! I am sleeping much better.

Pamela

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Posted : October 20, 2009 3:03 pm
DixieChick
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pamela what is the wipe you got from the feed store. is it for fleas and t icks or just ticks. not familiar with a "wipe"

glad it works though!!!!(tu)

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Posted : October 20, 2009 3:39 pm
Suzette
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Can you get the ivermectin at petmeds.com ?

I called the vets office today - and she said just to go ahead and order ivermectin and the Doc will approve it,,, but is it one of the things shown at petmeds. ? Those things say they are for horses, cattle, swine - - - and that they are dewormers (I did a search for ivermectin)

Our vet is at Imperial. STT.

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Topic starter Posted : October 20, 2009 9:41 pm
Suzette
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Ivomec
http://www.1800petmeds.com/Ivomec-prod10097.html

Is that it ? I don't want to spend the money until I know for sure this is the same stuff that works ... Sky ?

I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THESE HORRIBLE NASTY THINGS !!!

Thanks, I needed to vent !

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Topic starter Posted : October 21, 2009 2:37 am
SkysTheLimit
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My understanding is you MUST have a current blood test confirming that they are heartworm negative or the Ivermec/ivermectin could be a problem. Check with your vet. We've used it for years for ticks and it's the only thing that's worked. It is for cattle and swine but for dogs they prescribe a tiny dose for ticks. Wipes???? Hadn't heard of them.

Please check with a vet before dispensing anything to your pets. I am not a vetinarian!!!!!!! Can't even spell it:S

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Posted : October 21, 2009 11:32 am
pamela
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WIPE seems to be working! Haven't seen a full grown one in days and only a few of the little seed ticks. Am going to clean the house.

This is actually a horse wipe to repel fleas but says "kills ticks too". It keep away fleas, misquitos, ticks and flies. I paid $25 for a pint and have wiped them down every other day for about a week. Have about 1/3 left.

But I am sold. I got mine from the feed store in Smith Bay but I am sure any of the local places would carry it.

Pamela

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Posted : October 21, 2009 2:47 pm
heathea
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just fyi I found the wipe stuff online: Wipe 1 Quart

**Product Use:
Wipe is intended for use on race, show or pleasure horses and ponies to repel horse, house and deer flies, gnats and mosquitoes. Insects are killed on contact. Wipe also helps remove dirt and dandruff. The effectiveness lasts for hours. Directions For Use:
For maximum effectiveness, apply in early morning. The 1 quart container will treat a horse 16 times or more. Active Ingredients:
Pyrethrin, Piperonyl Butoxide, Butoxypolypropylene, Dipropyl **

Pyrethrin has been used safety in many products for dogs over there years, and it can be found in many products (online and on island)

Here is what drs. foster and smith have to say:
**Pyrethrins are one of the most widely used insecticides in today’s flea and tick products and have been used as insecticides for over 100 years. Pyrethrins are natural extracts made from flowers of chrysanthemum plants. These plants grow naturally in the Middle East, Europe, Japan, and most importantly, Kenya. There are six different pyrethrins: pyrethrin I and II, cinevin I and II, and jasmolin I and II. All six are found in flea and tick products, but generally the label only reads "Pyrethrin," regardless of which of the six types is actually present.
Pyrethrins affect the nervous system of insects and result in repeated and extended firings of the nerves. Pyrethrins do this by affecting the flow of sodium out of nerve cells.

Pyrethrins are used to control ticks, fleas, lice, Cheyletiella mites and mosquitoes. They are mainly found in products applied directly on the pet. Household products generally contain either pyrethrins, a combination of pyrethrin and permethrin (see below), or pyrethrins plus a synergist. Synergists are chemicals that enhance the performance of other drugs. The synergist most widely used with pyrethrins is 'piperonyl butoxide.'

All pyrethrins are easily hydrolyzed and degraded by stomach acids so toxicity following ingestion by pets is very low. Toxicities, although rare, do occur. A cat or dog with pyrethrin toxicosis generally will salivate, tremor, vomit, and may seizure. Generally, signs of toxicosis will be gone after 24 hours. Pyrethrins are some of the safest ingredients available, especially when one expects ingestion may occur, as is the case of cats and kittens. If lactating, breeding or pregnant animals must be treated for external parasites, pyrethrins are often recommended. Pyrethrins are generally safe for kittens as young as 4-6 weeks of age.

Pyrethrin is NOT the same as permethrin. Permethrin is a synthetic pyrethrin, and is less easily broken down than pyrethrin. Although its toxicity is relatively low, it is higher than that of pyrethrin. Pyrethrins can be used on cats; permethrins should NOT be used on cats**

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Posted : October 21, 2009 3:26 pm
SkysTheLimit
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Looks like cattle and horse products are the way to go.
Excellent info.

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Posted : October 21, 2009 8:04 pm
Suzette
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we ordered ivermectin (IVOMEC) today - found it for MUCH less money at jefferspet.com.

Will keep this thread updated with the results.

1 IVOMEC® Cattle/Swine Injectable , 50 ml

We are paying (WITH shipping) $44.90.

It was $75.00 for the same thing at petmeds.

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Topic starter Posted : October 21, 2009 11:43 pm
christineg
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That sounds like a great price......just make very sure your dogs don't have heartworm first. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

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Posted : October 22, 2009 1:43 am
thwolf24
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Just checked out www.jefferspet.com and their prices are definitely better than 1-800-petmeds. Thanks Suzette for the info!

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Posted : October 22, 2009 4:27 pm
SunshineCruzan
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Suzette,
Ditto on the THANKS!! I just ordered flea stuff for my (obnoxious) cat and saved $20.00 versus petmeds. I was saving $40.00 from THEM versus buying the same thing on island. I hope the shipping is similar to petmeds...usually get it within a week. Thanks again!!

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Posted : October 23, 2009 3:57 am
Suzette
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funny thing about the shipping - it said on the site that they use Fed EX - and that they would notify me of the cost of shipping before sending...
so I figured ... oh brother, it will be 80 bucks !

I got an email the next day:
The shipping charges applied to your order will be 4.95 plus 6.00 order less than 49.00.

UNreal ! LOVE it when something good like this happens !!

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Topic starter Posted : October 23, 2009 4:55 am
SunshineCruzan
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Suzette, I just got the shipping charges and they're charging me $4.95 shipping and $8.95 shipping and handling! I responded with a query as to why and won't OK my order until I get an answer. ????

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Posted : October 27, 2009 3:40 am
Suzette
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I'm not sure what you mean ---
In the email I received, it was stated:
The shipping charges applied to your order will be 4.95 plus 6.00 order less than 49.00.

It should come in today or tomorrow. Good thing too because after spraying the yard, fogging the house, the *&% things are STILL here. The dogs are miserable. I am miserable having to 'de-tick' them morning and night.

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Topic starter Posted : October 28, 2009 12:42 pm
SkysTheLimit
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Again........You will be amazed! Did you confirm the dogs are negative for heartworm? That's very important before administering Ivermectin!!

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Posted : October 28, 2009 7:57 pm
Suzette
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They were both tested about 3 months ago and have had their Iverheart each month since.

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Topic starter Posted : October 28, 2009 11:05 pm
christineg
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Also, certain breeds of dogs should NOT be on Ivermectin.

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Posted : October 29, 2009 7:20 pm
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