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(@Spartygrad95)
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From everyone's favorite VI Consortium.. This is how senate president James responded to yesterday's Supreme Court ruling on marriage equality.

“Notwithstanding the Supreme Court decision, that is how it will remain,”

Umm ok.

 
Posted : June 27, 2015 8:02 pm
(@the-oldtart)
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It's a given that they'll drag it out as long as possible.

 
Posted : June 27, 2015 8:06 pm
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Wait for the new round of laws states and possibly territories pass. They are already in the works. Stop issuing marriage licenses at all, or stop judges or ministers of peace officiate weddings, thereby, forcing church weddings. The problem lies when their religious freedom bills bite them in the face when people start "churches" with views contrary to their dogma

 
Posted : June 27, 2015 8:18 pm
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If there's any funding to be had or removed tied to it, they'll pass it fast enough.

There's no leadership here. Just bozos and clowns acting as if they're
important while patting their self-rightous selves on the back and sucking the coffers dry like parasitic ticks.

 
Posted : June 27, 2015 8:32 pm
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There seems to be a few forward thinking Senators, sadly drowned out by the business as usual, what's in it for me crowd.

 
Posted : June 27, 2015 8:47 pm
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I'm surprised no couple has sued the VI government before this ruling so they could have the freedom to marry in "paradise." Guam and PR were sued, so changed their laws so as not to waste $ on a court battle.

We need more proactive gay couples who want to get married in VI! Right now only the senators are speaking up, and they're mostly backwards thinkers.

 
Posted : June 27, 2015 11:59 pm
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It is a shame that even after the SCOTUS rules on something, you still have to sue in each and every jurisdiction in the country to force them to accept reality. Each time costing the taxpayers $$$.

They will fight gay marriage and they fight gun ownership. Both have already been decided.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 12:23 am
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That's really the issue isn't it - just more ways to waste the taxpayer's money. Whatever their personal opinion, it means zilch and too bad they can't just suck it up and get on to dealing with the important issues right on our doorstep.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 12:42 am
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i thought they had to follow the scotus ruling.

after reading your attachment alana, it seems they will drag this out as long as possible

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 9:12 am
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i thought they had to follow the scotus ruling.

They do but the whole point of the thread is that it can be dragged out which is a waste of time and money but is entirely to be expected.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 9:20 am
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They'll go out for bids for new forms - bid closing date 6 months from now.
Then they'll realize that they have to reverse the VI code or vote on legislation that will not disagree with the Constitution (Buckley's bill). That should take another year or so. At least until after the next elections.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 10:05 am
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If senator James feels he is unable to follow the laws of our nation which he is obligated to do, "notwithstanding" his personal views then he needs to remove himself or be removed as not only the Senate President but as a Senator.

One cannot "pick and choose" which laws to follow. SCOTUS has ruled. Change VI law to accommodate this change and move on.

This goes for any other senator that cannot abide by this ruling or any other laws under which we are governed.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 10:14 am
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They'll go out for bids for new forms - bid closing date 6 months from now.

The morning guffaw is appreciated! (tu)

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 10:15 am
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I think they have 30 days to comply if I'm not mistaken. Island time is about to speed up.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 12:08 pm
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It could be faster than 30 days, if they follow Puerto Rico's move:

Puerto Rico Moves on Gay Marriage

But, of course, I'm dreaming.

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 2:08 pm
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thanks

 
Posted : June 28, 2015 3:14 pm
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Why is Judge Dunston speaking on this, given that Rhys Hodge speaks for the local judiciary? I appreciate his exuberance, but a statement from the Supreme Court would have been more appropriate.

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 7:20 pm
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Supreme court ruling vs Territorial court.
Look ire up.

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 7:34 pm
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Senator James responded to my comment on STT Source. http://stthomassource.com/content/commentary/editorial/2015/06/28/sen-james-pass-marriage-equality-law-now#comment-6115

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 8:08 pm
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He seems kind of condescending and "straight" for a senator. Not what I've come to expect on the mainland, but interesting nonetheless.

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 8:13 pm
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What else is new?
My take was "condescending" was the least if it.

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 8:19 pm
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Well, I don't know much about the guy, so I try to take everything with a grain of salt, but yeah, it was a bit beyond simple condescension.

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 8:31 pm
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So, he is still saying he will vote against changing the current code to get in line with the SCOTUS decision? I'm sure glad the VI's coffers are overflowing to pay for the lawsuits. Reminds me of this
http://www.thethingswesay.com/this-year-thousands-of-men-will-die-from-stubbornness-no-we-wont/

 
Posted : June 29, 2015 11:05 pm
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Senator James responded to my comment on STT Source. http://stthomassource.com/content/commentary/editorial/2015/06/28/sen-james-pass-marriage-equality-law-now#comment-6115

Wow! I just read this. I had to re-read the "that is how it will remain" statement 3 times to finally believe he was talking about his belief and not any (non) action he'd take based on the SCOTUS decision. If the man had used proper English . . . .

He had a point about needing to know how they have to handle it (through court or legislation), but he didn't have to deliver that info through a condescending and insulting lecture.

Incredibly disrespectful, and just plain full of himself.

 
Posted : June 30, 2015 2:39 am
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