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LiquidFluoride
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We aren't doing anything close to that still, just assessing damage; we haven't even been activated.

National guard is a backup to VITEMA, VITEMA has the ball for this situation and is working with FEMA, we (national guard) are just kept in the loop in case we are needed down the road; plus they are using our assets (buildings, communication lines, etc..).

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Posted : September 7, 2017 11:48 am
NorthsideKevin
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LOL! Tucker Carlson, pansy panderer of the 'nth degree, trying to make a story(and cash in) where there really isn't one. He wouldn't know a firearm if it was stuck in his face.

Seems like the last part of that Order had something to do with the AG's permission or consent. And all of the gun nuts in the good 'ol U.S. of A. glommed onto it and tried to make something out of it.

Daily Caller is still a steaming pile.

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Posted : September 7, 2017 5:44 pm
stxisbest
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Just for those that didn't see the order--draw your own conclusions especially after the Tucker interview--hoping the best for everyone affected in Irma.

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NATL-GUARD.pdf

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Posted : September 7, 2017 11:28 pm
dougtamjj
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Mapp would have been fine if he hadn't used the word, "seized"

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Posted : September 8, 2017 1:44 am
speee1dy
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SunnyCaribe
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The source of information seems to be the "daily caller." That pretty much says it all.

Exactly. Come on, folks, use some critical thinking here.

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Posted : September 8, 2017 7:44 pm
ironheadUSVI
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The source of information seems to be the "daily caller." That pretty much says it all.

Exactly. Come on, folks, use some critical thinking here.

Disregard the memo because of the source? Because no liberal source ran the story?

Mapp was interviewed about this, and clearly said he signed it. But he says the word SEIZE really means they could buy the guns if necessary.

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Posted : September 8, 2017 8:30 pm
Scubadoo
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Mapp was only parroting the existing Virgin Islands Code verbatim in his order

TITLE TWENTY-THREE Internal Security and Public Order
Chapter 19. National Guard
Subchapter I. General Provisions
§ 1522

that I posted earlier. He didn't make it up himself. Now perhaps he's making his own interpretation of it after all the lambasting.

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Posted : September 8, 2017 9:14 pm
rotorhead
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The source of information seems to be the "daily caller." That pretty much says it all.

Exactly. Come on, folks, use some critical thinking here.

They are almost as bad as DailyKos.

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Posted : September 8, 2017 9:27 pm
NorthsideKevin
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Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

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Posted : September 8, 2017 9:37 pm
ironheadUSVI
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Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

So are you denying the truth because of the source?

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Posted : September 8, 2017 10:17 pm
SunnyCaribe
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Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

So are you denying the truth because of the source?

What truth? We're denying the story because we know the facts. We're ridiculing the people who would believe anything from the Daily Caller without question (or the Daily Kos, if you're in the mood for a red herring).

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Posted : September 8, 2017 10:55 pm
isl3985
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Why have guns when you have the VIPD........

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Posted : September 9, 2017 2:16 am
ironheadUSVI
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Exactly. That's what the critical thinking comment was about.

So are you denying the truth because of the source?

What truth? We're denying the story because we know the facts. We're ridiculing the people who would believe anything from the Daily Caller without question (or the Daily Kos, if you're in the mood for a red herring).

So you discount the Mapp interview on TV where he explained it and said he signed it?

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Posted : September 9, 2017 4:17 am
speee1dy
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lol, right

Why have guns when you have the VIPD........

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Posted : September 9, 2017 12:11 pm
NorthsideKevin
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Mapp is a self-serving idiot, in case you hadn't noticed, and blind followers of neocon or liberal dogma are just as bad. Keep repeating it, and it becomes "truth." Worked great in the last Reality TV election.

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Posted : September 9, 2017 1:06 pm
LiquidFluoride
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What truth? We're denying the story because we know the facts. We're ridiculing the people who would believe anything from the Daily Caller without question (or the Daily Kos, if you're in the mood for a red herring).

Kind of awesome that you mention one Logical Fallacy (red herring) while committing another logical Fallacy (Ad Hominem).

I just ridicule anyone who would believe anything with out question... 😉

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Posted : September 10, 2017 9:51 pm
Scubadoo
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So anybody have any guns or explosives seized yet?

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Posted : September 10, 2017 10:11 pm
NorthsideKevin
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What is almost comical about the obvious attempt at making political hay is that I personally have a closet full of firearms and ammo. In the V.I., every one of my neighbors had a firearm. Those who bray the loudest seem to have the least experience with guns. Like little Tucker Carlson.

Now, word out of St. John is roving burglary, robbery and possibly worse. I have NOT confirmed this, and it came satphone-cel-second hand from someone I know is in the East End. If you believe the entitled thugs that have roamed the streets for years prepared, stockpiled water and food, you're mistaken. They're out now taking what they feel they are entitled to take. A free for all. Same thing is going on in Florida, and riots and looting on SXM on the national news. Truly sad. I hope they get their just desserts. Arm yourselves. Remember Hugo and Marilyn. Be safe.

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Posted : September 11, 2017 11:07 am
Ca. Dreamers
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What is almost comical about the obvious attempt at making political hay is that I personally have a closet full of firearms and ammo. In the V.I., every one of my neighbors had a firearm. Those who bray the loudest seem to have the least experience with guns. Like little Tucker Carlson.

Now, word out of St. John is roving burglary, robbery and possibly worse. I have NOT confirmed this, and it came satphone-cel-second hand from someone I know is in the East End. If you believe the entitled thugs that have roamed the streets for years prepared, stockpiled water and food, you're mistaken. They're out now taking what they feel they are entitled to take. A free for all. Same thing is going on in Florida, and riots and looting on SXM on the national news. Truly sad. I hope they get their just desserts. Arm yourselves. Remember Hugo and Marilyn. Be safe.

(tu)(tu)(tu)

We said!

CD

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Posted : September 12, 2017 1:36 pm
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