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Gumbo
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Wonder if it will help?

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Topic starter Posted : June 2, 2016 10:37 pm
speee1dy
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do you think it will help or do you think the new chiefs will just be more of the same old same old?

nepotism at its finest

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Posted : June 3, 2016 10:56 am
OldTart
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What does nepotism have to do with it:? The reasons given were understandable and these sorts of shakeups aren't unusual. Technically the chiefs weren't "fired" as they can return to their former positions and ranks.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 11:04 am
caribstx
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Wonder if it will help?

The changing of the guard usually results in more traffic stops for a few weeks. Then its back to same old, same old.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 11:09 am
stxsailor
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Sadly nothing will change if we recycle same old names, We have some bright young talent who want to make a difference give them a shot.Keep our young folks in the VI!

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Posted : June 3, 2016 11:16 am
OldTart
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Now that the legislature has overridden the governor's veto of a bill to put revenues from traffic fines primarily into the VIPD's budget, it could be an incentive for the department to more consistently enforce laws.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 11:21 am
OldTart
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Sadly nothing will change if we recycle same old names, We have some bright young talent who want to make a difference give them a shot.Keep our young folks in the VI!

Much of that bright young talent has "same old" family names and many have risen through the ranks to achieve higher ranking. Bright young talent has to prove itself just as in any other business.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 11:25 am
IslandHops
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Now that the legislature has overridden the governor's veto of a bill to put revenues from traffic fines primarily into the VIPD's budget, it could be an incentive for the department to more consistently enforce laws.

Or, it could be an excuse to turn minor traffic fines into a cash machine. Concern is that this leads to quota's and profiling those who look like they can afford to pay - instead of devoting resources to more serious crime investigation and prevention.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 11:34 am
OldTart
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If one were to remark that the sky is blue and it looks like a nice day ahead, there will always be those who opine that it's just as likely a distant cloud will hurry on its path and bring with it a deluge worthy of an ark-building project. 😀

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Posted : June 3, 2016 12:01 pm
LiquidFluoride
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Now that the legislature has overridden the governor's veto of a bill to put revenues from traffic fines primarily into the VIPD's budget, it could be an incentive for the department to more consistently enforce laws.

Nope, this is the start of police corruption, ticket "quotas" and other terrible TERRIBLE things.

this is the worst thing that could have been done and can easily lead to ruining one of the things I like most about the island.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 12:11 pm
STTsailor
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Half the cars here have at least one nonworking break light. One in ten has no break lights at all. Forget about blinkers. Some enforcement here would be welcome. How these vehicles pass annual inspection?

Some changes in policing style could be helpful too. Cops should be visible everywhere foot patrolling streets, communities, housing projects. This prevents crime. Right now cops drive around reckoning to 911 calls. No visible presence. One of the great great things in SJU is a friendly foot based police presence in all tourist areas. It is good for community and good for business.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 12:27 pm
OldTart
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Nope, this is the start of police corruption, ticket "quotas" and other terrible TERRIBLE things. /quote]

There's not one police force in the world that doesn't have some bad apples amongst its ranks. Traffic ticket "quotas" have been around since time immemorial. What other "terrible TERRIBLE things" I can only imagine.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 12:36 pm
IslandHops
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.... How these vehicles pass annual inspection? ....

The truth is that they don't. You just need to know someone and pay them an extra 20 to take care of the paperwork. The vehicles never get to the inspection lanes.

Camp out sometime and watch the inspectors. Every so often you'll see someone come up with a bunch of paperwork and they will complete the forms without any vehicles in sight.

Of course it could get more interesting this year with the mandatory plate swap.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 1:39 pm
OldTart
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"An extra 20"? Do please guide me towards a licensed expediter who'll get it all done for $20. I've never heard of even an unlicensed expediter doing it for $20.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 2:04 pm
speee1dy
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sounds a tad familiar. you do this a lot

If one were to remark that the sky is blue and it looks like a nice day ahead, there will always be those who opine that it's just as likely a distant cloud will hurry on its path and bring with it a deluge worthy of an ark-building project. 😀

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Posted : June 3, 2016 2:15 pm
OldTart
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sounds a tad familiar. you do this a lot

Very amusing since the critical comments leveled at me usually revolve around me wearing "rose colored spectacles". Thanks for the chuckle (and now you have to respond with a "you're welcome"). 😀

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Posted : June 3, 2016 2:26 pm
IslandHops
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"An extra 20"? Do please guide me towards a licensed expediter who'll get it all done for $20. I've never heard of even an unlicensed expediter doing it for $20.

Licensed expediter? are you serious. How could there be a licensed expediter that could legally bypasses vehicle inspections?

I take my personal vehicles in and do it by the book. As far as the company vehicle was concerned all I can say is that I didn't inhale and take the 5th. Although I can confirm the friends & family rate was just a single Jackson. Of course these things may be cheaper here in STX.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 3:31 pm
stxsailor
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$50 is the going rate for an "expediter" in STX

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Posted : June 3, 2016 4:29 pm
STTsailor
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So the expediter shows up with a stack of paperwork and bunch of $50 bills and the inspector doesn't need to look at the car.
Nice gig. Just like with Turkish/Syrian customs border control in the 80s. Going price was a carton of American smokes per person.
Did I mention banana republic?

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Posted : June 3, 2016 5:01 pm
Alana33
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Not sure how much of that is going on presently.
I know it was flagrant in the past and it cost a heck of a lot more back then.
If you could get it done for $50, you were getting off cheap.
$20 was unheard of, as in NEVER!

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Posted : June 3, 2016 5:14 pm
Treeman
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It was $50 in SC.

SC legislature's reaction to all of the fraud? Get rid of inspections on personal vehicles. Lots of "island cars" around here.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 5:28 pm
sunshinefun
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Its a lot less hassle to just make your own registration window decal and insurance slip.

This year I actually have to go through the process of having to register my car so I can get the new plates.

Oh bother.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 5:32 pm
Exit Zero
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And what a bargain those new plates are too!!

I am sure these expediters can get you through and get you new plates.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 5:42 pm
stxsailor
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I just bought the Landmark society plates, much nicer and $65. When i registered my car last year, a guy came up with a stack of papers, the inspector stopped my inspection and did all of the expediters cars. I did have a taillight out and he let me go with a promise to fix it, so it wasn't all bad.

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Posted : June 3, 2016 5:47 pm
speee1dy
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i dont know why people pay, its really not that bad these days to do it yourself -unless your car will not pass inspection

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