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CityGuy
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January 4, 2013 3:00 am  

Look at page 4 and page 6 of the FAA and the AATF report. Look at the Grant funding and the amount, and the of GA Funding. You don't know how to read a PIE Graph that would be on page 6 of your post.. I just shake my head at your foolishness. Leave the ( SNAP PEOPLE ALONE.) I think your last post of Thomas Sowell was meant for you.:P


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January 4, 2013 5:29 am  

Look at page 4 and page 6 of the FAA and the AATF report. Look at the Grant funding and the amount, and the of GA Funding. You don't know how to read a PIE Graph that would be on page 6 of your post.. I just shake my head at your foolishness. Leave the ( SNAP PEOPLE ALONE.) I think your last post of Thomas Sowell was meant for you.:P

You are incredibly hard to follow. You first state that most of the funding for the FAA comes from the General Fund and is only supplemented by the AATF. This is a lie. I used the FAAs AATF report to show that you are wrong.

You should read and try to comprehend what you post, Recreational fly boys/girls pay nada into the trust fund. With the exception of the small portion of tax on fuel. Commercial Airlines, Flyers, and pilots pay into the trust fund which is only a supplemental fund to the General Fund. The General Fund is paid by the taxpayers.:D

You then switch to the AATF grant funding table and pie chart. This shows that the AATF grant is $10,612 million of which $284 million is paid for by non-commercial aviation fuel. So what? This pie chart does not show how much of the cost of the FAA is attributable to non-commercial aviation. The $284 million could very well be a fair amount. Following 9/11 all non-commercial air traffic was prohibited from Reagan International for 4 years. There was no noticeable reduction in the cost of operating the airport. If the GA traffic costs so much then the cost of operation should have gone down at Reagan International.

You also seem to confuse terms. You refer to fun pilots; much of the GA traffic is actually corporate jets being used for business purposes and has nothing to do with fun flying. Fun pilots actually impact the system very little. They mostly fly VFR daytime only and make very little use of ATC.

If you have data which shows that FUN pilots are not paying their fair share then produce it. Otherwise go away!

End special tax treatment for churches!
http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/16419-ffrf-sues-irs-over-990-form
http://ffrf.org/legal/challenges/ongoing-lawsuits#id-12512


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CityGuy
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January 4, 2013 2:45 pm  

Cherry Pick from your own post, now that's funny. Leave the SNAP people alone! You don't pay for that program like the taxpayers pay for you to play! Nice try.(td)


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janeinstx
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January 4, 2013 4:44 pm  

so where do you think funding for the SNAP program comes from?


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Jamison
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January 4, 2013 4:57 pm  

I hate pretty much everything about this thread.


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CityGuy
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January 4, 2013 5:25 pm  

janeinstx,
Federal Income tax revenue and the program is managed by the USDA (public information on the Internet). If you don't know USVI residents do not pay Federal Income Tax.

Jamison,
So do I, However I will not let poor people, people in need and children starve to death, go hungry and eat cat food to survive.


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January 4, 2013 7:58 pm  

However I will not let poor people, people in need and children starve to death, go hungry and eat cat food to survive.

Exactly where in this thread has anyone suggested that we let poor people, people in need and children starve to death, go hungry and eat cat food to survive?
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CityGuy
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January 4, 2013 8:39 pm  

Rotorhead,
Never said you or anyone else said that. If the SNAP program was to vanish that's what would happen.People like you complain about programs that you don't pay for. People like me will fight for the SNAP program. Try to comprehend the written word.


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January 4, 2013 9:10 pm  

Rotorhead,
Never said you or anyone else said that. If the SNAP program was to vanish that's what would happen.People like you complain about programs that you don't pay for. People like me will fight for the SNAP program. Try to comprehend the written word.

And yet again, no one has suggested that the SNAP program vanish. I guess by your rules none of us should complain about anything in our federal government since we don't pay federal taxes or vote in federal elections. I disagree. Many of us have in the past and will again in the future pay federal taxes and vote in federal elections.

I fight for SNAP also.
http://www.snapnetwork.org/


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Isle Tell Ya
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January 4, 2013 11:03 pm  

Virgin Islanders DO pay Federal Taxes - we file 1040 returns like all Americans. The fact the Washington permits the taxes to remain on island, while subsidizing the refunds, in inconsequential. If this thread which has taken a very dumb turn will linger, may as well gets the facts straight.


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January 5, 2013 1:04 am  

A "bona fide resident" of the US Virgin islands does not Pay Federal Income Tax. The resident files his/her tax return on a 1040 Mails and pays/or seeks a return to or from(THE VIRGIN ISLAND BUREAU OF INTERNAL REVENUE) That money stays on the islands, The Federal Govt does not subsidize tax refunds. VI Residents pay Social Security tax to the Fed "Only" Those are the straight fact.


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CityGuy
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January 5, 2013 2:04 am  

I forgot that the VIBIR also collects the Federal Unemployment Tax with the Social Security Tax and sends them to the Fed in Phila Pa. for posting and credit to the individual taxpayer accounts.


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Isle Tell Ya
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January 5, 2013 12:22 pm  

A "bona fide resident" of the US Virgin islands does not Pay Federal Income Tax. The resident files his/her tax return on a 1040 Mails and pays/or seeks a return to or from(THE VIRGIN ISLAND BUREAU OF INTERNAL REVENUE) That money stays on the islands, The Federal Govt does not subsidize tax refunds. VI Residents pay Social Security tax to the Fed "Only" Those are the straight fact.

The U.S. permits the VI and its bone fide residents to file in the VI under a "mirror" tax system. The foundation for this grant by the US is found in Title 28 of the US Code. Thus my initial statement - we do pay Federal Taxes based on the Federal Tax Code. When the folks in DC decide to amend the US Code, we will be doing so again.


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January 5, 2013 12:31 pm  

Virgin Islanders DO pay Federal Taxes - we file 1040 returns like all Americans. The fact the Washington permits the taxes to remain on island, while subsidizing the refunds, in inconsequential. If this thread which has taken a very dumb turn will linger, may as well gets the facts straight.

Agreed and cat food is freaking expensive.


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January 5, 2013 12:42 pm  

you got that right jamison, cat food is expensive


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January 5, 2013 2:16 pm  

Just when you thought it was over, the food stamp thread is BACK!

I want to talk about what cityguy said earlier. He claims that people would starve to death if food stamps was taken away........

REALLY?

I dont think ANYONE would starve to death. People may not be able to eat as much as they did when they had food stamps, but come on.

I find it funny that the same people on here who say people need food stamps so bad also say that the amount of money food stamps provide is minimal. So its not much but if it were taken away we would starve to death.....?


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CityGuy
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January 5, 2013 2:46 pm  

Isle tell Ya,
You can look up on the internet,(Tax structure Booklet of the US Virgin Islands). A mirror system in form and content is clearly described by The Organic Act and the revised Organic Act of 1954, explains how Income tax is collected for the benefit of the US Virgin Islands. Sorry we do not and have not paid federal income Tax. Oh, US Code means Codified (look up the meaning) and it would be US Code 26 not 28.


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CityGuy
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January 5, 2013 3:42 pm  

Today people with snap still go to bed hungry, people without snap benefits still die on the street as in the past with no programs.. Take away the snap food stamp program and watch what happens. I don't think the cat food thing is funny" it happens".


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Isle Tell Ya
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January 5, 2013 5:55 pm  

Isle tell Ya,
You can look up on the internet,(Tax structure Booklet of the US Virgin Islands). A mirror system in form and content is clearly described by The Organic Act and the revised Organic Act of 1954, explains how Income tax is collected for the benefit of the US Virgin Islands. Sorry we do not and have not paid federal income Tax. Oh, US Code means Codified (look up the meaning) and it would be US Code 26 not 28.

My bad with the typo on the US Code citation. I tend not to use the Internet as my educational source. I've taken and passed more bar exams than there are fingers in a human hand - so I'll pass on the legal lesson, thanks. Your problem is a failure to want to understand the definition of what it means to be a Territory of another sovereign. Once you get passed that then re-read my posts and you'll have a better grasp of my underlying point.


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CityGuy
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January 5, 2013 7:39 pm  

Sorry you have no point underlying the subject. You made a statement that the Residents of the US Virgin Islands pay Federal income tax. Your citation was wrong and your statements. You have a problem with understanding real facts as presented. I have given you the proper
Code with no excuse and the documents that govern the US Virgin Islands and how to find it. The internet my not be Harvard Law school but it does make available "FACTS" that can help educate you. I Know what it means to be a territory no problem there. Maybe if you study to take the bar exam to practice law in the US Virgin islands this academic discourse wouldn't be necessary.


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Isle Tell Ya
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January 5, 2013 10:14 pm  

Wrong again CityGuy. Passing the VI Bar a second time likely won't help educate you and help you grasp the US/VI dynamic. You sound incredibly close minded.

Go ahead and take the last word - I took a few weeks from posting and you've reminded me why.


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CityGuy
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January 5, 2013 10:48 pm  

The USVI dynamic???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????:S What does that have to do with "bona fide" US Virgin Island Residents not paying federal Income Tax. You jumped on this thread with wrong and silly information. I gave you proven facts. If that is incredibly close minded , so be it!


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January 6, 2013 12:32 am  

Ok cityguy. I did a search for statistics on people in the US who die from starvation and could not find any. The reason is because the number is so insignificant its not even worth reporting. Do you have anything to back up your claim with?

"people without snap benefits still die on the street as in the past with no programs"

"Today people with snap still go to bed hungry"

Can you elaborate on that claim? So are you saying that we should be giving people that get food stamps even MORE money?

School age children can get a lunch at school 180 days a year. Alot of them can even get breakfast. If you are low income its all free. Some schools even serve food throughout the summer vacation. http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/

So you are telling me that with all this free food there are still people going to bed hungry? If that is true, then that is PROOF that these food programs dont work!


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CityGuy
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January 6, 2013 4:50 am  

feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/hungerfacts.

NYC-PD picks bodies off the street on a daily basis as well as other large cities in America. Check out Coroners reports and Hospital deaths and how they are reported.

Look up the various sites on the internet regarding hunger. I gave you one. there are many more. I'M saying that Children, Poor, and the elderly should not go hungry and they do. People should not starve to death and they do. Insignificant numbers that die of starvation not worth reporting. According to who? you. How much do you pay for the SNAP program. Like I've said to others, leave the "SNAP food stamp) people alone.


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January 6, 2013 4:53 am  

For the love of god!!!!! Let it go!!!!


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