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speee1dy
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Trump pulling out .Wondering what people thing about this. Is it good. Is it bad??

and alana, can you refrain from name calling this time please

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rotorhead
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Trump is still fulfilling his campaign promises. The `Paris Agreement was bad for the US and was illegally accepted by Obama.

The Paris Agreement is a treaty. As such it requires a two-thirds majority vote by the Senate in order to join. Obama never waited for Senate approval before joining. Another attempt to circumvent the US Constitution.

Besides that it was a bad deal. If we had met our burdensome financial and regulatory requirements under this treaty it was predicted to only make a two-tenths of a degree Celsius difference by 2100. Very expensive for a very small difference in temperature.

I hope that Trump follows up by getting us out of the UN. What a waste of money that is.

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Gator's Mom
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The Paris Agreement (French: Accord de Paris) is an agreement within the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) dealing with greenhouse gas emissions mitigation, adaptation and finance starting in the year 2020.

Just in case you'd like to read the agreement -

http://unfccc.int/files/essential_background/convention/application/pdf/english_paris_agreement.pdf

http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9485.php

Obama used his executive power to sign on behalf of the US just as Trump decided to remove the US from the agreement using executive power.

The senate was not called on to ratify - because this was not a treaty but rather an broad-reaching agreement to ..... well, agree.... or at least that's how Obama saw it.

Let's burn some coal y'all and make Pittsburgh great again! And Youngstown!

BTW - the UN is a treaty organization, to which the US is a charter member. That one will take more than a blustering speech in the rose garden to pull out of.

Pulling out of the Accord de Paris was easy with great optics for Trump's base of support. Obama left the door wide open on this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/01/the-u-s-cant-quit-the-paris-climate-agreement-because-it-never-actually-joined/?utm_term=.987994659645

Trump is still fulfilling his campaign promises. The `Paris Agreement was bad for the US and was illegally accepted by Obama.

The Paris Agreement is a treaty. As such it requires a two-thirds majority vote by the Senate in order to join. Obama never waited for Senate approval before joining. Another attempt to circumvent the US Constitution.

Besides that it was a bad deal. If we had met our burdensome financial and regulatory requirements under this treaty it was predicted to only make a two-tenths of a degree Celsius difference by 2100. Very expensive for a very small difference in temperature.

I hope that Trump follows up by getting us out of the UN. What a waste of money that is.

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JohnnyU
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A whole lot of bluster to make everyone feel good.

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Alana33
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However, the majority of people, the mayors, governor's and corporations in the U.S. are in disagreement with trump on this.
Gee, we join Syria and Nicaragua on pulling out!
You need to fact check trump's speech.
He's a habitual LIAR using alternative reality fallacies vs science and facts.
Ultimately, clean power will employ more people.
Ultimately, we actually have until 2020, long after trump gets impeached to pull out of the agreement.

Trump puts us back in the 20th century while everyone else moves on into the 21st.

But, ultimately, what's wrong with doing what we can to do the best to protect and save our planet and being prepared for the worst?
Are you against clean water, air, oceans and lands, protecting wildlife, our environment, our health, our lives?

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